From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:11:25 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#14321 <14321@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#14321 <14321@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Documentation doesn't refer to set-scroll-bar-mode Reply-To: bug#14321 <14321@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 04:11:25 +0000 retitle 14321 Documentation doesn't refer to set-scroll-bar-mode reassign 14321 emacs submitter 14321 "Jos=C3=A9 Luis Gonz=C3=A1lez" severity 14321 minor tag 14321 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 30 11:49:01 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2013 15:49:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52457 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UXCnc-0004pD-8R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:49:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52673) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UX6zg-00037a-Ia for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:37:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UX6zD-0003XZ-2e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:36:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG, MIME_HTML_ONLY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:53772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UX6zC-0003XV-VA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:36:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35732) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UX6z8-0005w4-Ig for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:36:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UX6z5-0003VF-Ku for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:36:30 -0400 Received: from out03.wanadoo.es ([62.36.20.203]:51706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UX6z5-0003UH-F2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:36:27 -0400 Received: from [172.17.226.125] by out03.wanadoo.es with smtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1UX6z2-0007P5-8n; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:36:24 +0200 Received: from 194.179.68.63 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:36:24 +0200 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Jos=E9_Luis_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:36:24 +0200 Subject: Documentation doesn't refer to set-scroll-bar-mode Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ya.com_dam20.wnet_78bc8e867088b6fa9a6c14900862d26e" Importance: normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-login: <> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:48:58 -0400 Cc: jlgonzal@ya.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) --ya.com_dam20.wnet_78bc8e867088b6fa9a6c14900862d26e Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=C2=A0Hi,

Info documentation for emacs 2= 4.2.1 instructs in section "21.22 Scroll Bars" that "To = control the use of scroll bars at startup, customize the variable`scrol= l-bar-mode'." However it fails to mention that it must be done by = calling set-scroll-bar-mode, since directly setting the variable has n= o real effect. This is explained in the built-in documentation for the = variable, but not in the Info documentation.

Cheers,
Jo= s=C3=A9 Luis


--ya.com_dam20.wnet_78bc8e867088b6fa9a6c14900862d26e-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 15 01:07:49 2019 Received: (at 14321) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2019 05:07:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50373 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zI-0005yg-1X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:07:49 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:35260) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zF-0005yU-N2 for 14321@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:07:46 -0400 Received: from 24-104-73-23-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([24.104.73.23] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zB-00082b-Cu; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 07:07:44 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_Luis_Gonz=C3=A1lez?= Subject: Re: bug#14321: Documentation doesn't refer to set-scroll-bar-mode References: Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:07:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?Q?=22Jos=C3=A9?= Luis =?utf-8?Q?Gonz=C3=A1lez=22's?= message of "Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:36:24 +0200") Message-ID: <87ftm310f9.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "José Luis González" writes: > Info documentation for emacs 24.2.1 instructs in section "21.22 Scroll Bars" > that "To control the use of scroll bars at startup, customize the variable > `scroll-bar-mode'." However it fails to me [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14321 Cc: 14321@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Jos=C3=A9 Luis Gonz=C3=A1lez" writes: > Info documentation for emacs 24.2.1 instructs in section "21.22 Scroll Ba= rs" > that "To control the use of scroll bars at startup, customize the variable > `scroll-bar-mode'." However it fails to mention that it must be done by > calling set-scroll-bar-mode, since directly setting the variable has no r= eal > effect. This is explained in the built-in documentation for the variable,= but > not in the Info documentation. (I'm going through old bug reports that have unfortunately gotten no responses yet.) As the doc string also says: --- Setting the variable with a customization buffer also takes effect. --- So I think the manual is correct here, although it uses "customize the variable" in one specific sense; i.e., you have to use Customize -- you can't just set it with `setq' or the like. I've added a link to the Customization node here as a further hint in Emacs 27. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 15 01:07:54 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2019 05:07:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50376 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zO-0005z0-L0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:07:54 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:35276) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zN-0005ys-3q for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 01:07:53 -0400 Received: from 24-104-73-23-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([24.104.73.23] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hy7zK-00082o-AQ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 07:07:52 +0200 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:07:48 -0700 Message-Id: <87ef1n10ez.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #14321 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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