From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:19:01 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#1421: 23.0.60; Menu items in Options menu Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 1421@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1421 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122755534525127 (code B ref -1); Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:45:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Nov 2008 19:35:45 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAOJZg6H025121 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:35:43 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:35039) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1L4hDS-0008MQ-DK for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:35:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L4hDe-0001vc-91 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:35:40 -0500 Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com ([148.87.113.125]:45208 helo=rgminet13.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L4hDa-0001sl-7E for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:35:35 -0500 Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mAOJZl2x030739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:35:48 GMT Received: from acsmt704.oracle.com (acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mAOJZVpv008794 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:35:32 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:35:25 +0000 From: "Drew Adams" To: Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:35:26 -0800 Message-ID: <003401c94e6b$cd2f0dd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AclOa8zlp+PGnqhUS/6v32LOgOa/vw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.492B01FF.0012:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) It would be better to be more consistent in the kind of menu items used. Currently, some are noun phrases (e.g. Active Region Highlighting) and others are verb phrases (e.g. Save Place in Files Between Sesssions). Generally, I'd suggest using verb phrases. Suggestions: Highlight Active Region Highlight Matching Parenthesis Ignore Case for Search Use CUA Cut-Copy-Paste Keys Blink Cursor Also, perhaps: Long Lines in Buffer This one is not a problem of noun vs verb. This submenu is about how to handle long lines, and truncating is not a kind of wrapping. And this menu item could be a verb phrase, like the others in its submenu: Wrap Between Words In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-11-08 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:19:01 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#1421: 23.0.60; Menu items in Options menu Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1421@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1421 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122758338817397 (code B ref -1); Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:30:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.7 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Nov 2008 03:23:08 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAP3N5cl017391 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:23:06 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:54802) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1L4oVk-0002Pw-UV for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:22:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L4oVz-0004U0-VJ for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:23:04 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:50782 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L4oVz-0004Tp-Lg for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:23:03 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtEEAO/9KknO+J+z/2dsb2JhbACBbdAygnyBHQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,661,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="30257593" Received: from 206-248-159-179.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.159.179]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 24 Nov 2008 22:23:03 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8D7CD8107; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:22:58 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Drew Adams Cc: 1421@debbugs.gnu.org, Message-ID: References: <003401c94e6b$cd2f0dd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:22:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <003401c94e6b$cd2f0dd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:35:26 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. > It would be better to be more consistent in the kind of menu items > used. Currently, some are noun phrases (e.g. Active Region > Highlighting) and others are verb phrases (e.g. Save Place in Files > Between Sesssions). Generally, I'd suggest using verb phrases. Agreed. Stefan From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:19:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#1421: 23.0.60; Menu items in Options menu Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:47:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1421 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 1421@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 1421-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1421.131007521918057 (code B ref 1421); Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:47:04 +0000 Received: (at 1421) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2011 21:46:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QewPS-0004hB-8u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:46:58 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QewPQ-0004gq-20 for 1421@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:46:56 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QewPE-0002GX-K5; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:46:44 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <003401c94e6b$cd2f0dd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:35:26 -0800") Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:45:22 +0200 Message-ID: References: <003401c94e6b$cd2f0dd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Nadja's _Body Cage_: "Clinodactyl" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110707:drew.adams@oracle.com::2xrHDMVbz+HOCZAq:000000000000000000000000000000000000000021hN X-Hashcash: 1:23:110707:1421@debbugs.gnu.org::fs3oqU5wU/0Cx0Gy:000000000000000000000000000000000000000002Kwk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QewPE-0002GX-K5 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310680004.70179@JDgzRif8zlNW/RvxjMtUsg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: > It would be better to be more consistent in the kind of menu items > used. Currently, some are noun phrases (e.g. Active Region > Highlighting) and others are verb phrases (e.g. Save Place in Files > Between Sesssions). Generally, I'd suggest using verb phrases. > > Suggestions: > > Highlight Active Region > Highlight Matching Parenthesis > Ignore Case for Search > Use CUA Cut-Copy-Paste Keys > Blink Cursor I've now made these changes, with some slight adjustments. > Also, perhaps: > > Long Lines in Buffer > This one is not a problem of noun vs verb. This submenu is about how > to handle long lines, and truncating is not a kind of wrapping. Not this one, though. I think "truncating" is the correct Emacs terminology, and "Long Lines in Buffer" is more confusing, in my opinion. > And this menu item could be a verb phrase, like the others in its > submenu: > > Wrap Between Words Fixed this, too. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 17:47:43 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2011 21:47:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QewQB-0004jb-09 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:47:43 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QewQ9-0004jI-LK for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:47:42 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QewPy-0002H8-Sb for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:47:30 +0200 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:47:30 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #1421 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QewPy-0002H8-Sb X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310680050.96865@Li5ma6UWs8Fvk+5V+F8ueA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 1421 fixed close 1421 24.1 From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:19:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#1421: 23.0.60; Menu items in Options menu Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 22:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1421 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 1421@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 1421-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1421.131007855027738 (code B ref 1421); Thu, 07 Jul 2011 22:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 1421) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2011 22:42:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QexHC-0007DL-GT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:42:30 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QexH9-0007D4-WC for 1421@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:42:28 -0400 Received: from furball (dhcp128036225024.central.yale.edu [128.36.225.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p67MgJLf010354 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:42:20 -0400 From: Chong Yidong References: <003401c94e6b$cd2f0dd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:42:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:45:22 +0200") Message-ID: <877h7tu304.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> And this menu item could be a verb phrase, like the others in its >> submenu: >> >> Wrap Between Words > > Fixed this, too. No, bad idea. Word Wrap is common computer terminology---it even has its own Wikipedia page. I reverted this part of the change.