GNU bug report logs - #14142
24.3.50; documentation bug in TRAMP

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: joakim <at> verona.se

Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 07:42:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: notabug

Found in version 24.3.50

Done: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>

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From: joakim <at> verona.se
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3.50; documentation bug in TRAMP
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:36:35 +0200
There is a possible documentation bug in TRAMP.

The TRAMP docs say:

,----
|    Opening `/sudo:randomhost.your.domain:' would connect first
| `randomhost.your.domain' via `ssh' under your account name, and perform
| `sudo -u root' on that host afterwards.  It is important to know that
| the given method is applied on the host which has been reached so far.
| `sudo -u root', applied on your local host, wouldn't be useful here.
`----

But when I try it I get:

byte-code: Host `demo.verona.se' looks like a remote host, `sudo' can only use the local host




In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.4 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.4)
 of 2013-03-13 on chopper.vpn.verona.se
Bzr revision: 101263 joakim <at> verona.se-20130308230356-b7u445z57vj1juvl
Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11303000
System Description:	Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow)

Configured using:
 `configure --with-xwidgets --enable-asserts --with-x-toolkit=gtk3
 --without-gnutls'

Important settings:
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Joakim Verona




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#14142; Package emacs. (Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:49:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14142: 24.3.50; documentation bug in TRAMP
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:44:44 +0200
joakim <at> verona.se writes:

> There is a possible documentation bug in TRAMP.
>
> The TRAMP docs say:
>
> ,----
> |    Opening `/sudo:randomhost.your.domain:' would connect first
> | `randomhost.your.domain' via `ssh' under your account name, and perform
> | `sudo -u root' on that host afterwards.  It is important to know that
> | the given method is applied on the host which has been reached so far.
> | `sudo -u root', applied on your local host, wouldn't be useful here.
> `----
>
> But when I try it I get:
>
> byte-code: Host `demo.verona.se' looks like a remote host, `sudo' can only use the local host

Probably you didn't configure `tramp-default-proxies-alist'.


-- 
Thierry
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Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#14142; Package emacs. (Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:06:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 14142 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: joakim <at> verona.se
Cc: 14142 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14142: 24.3.50; documentation bug in TRAMP
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:02:20 +0200
joakim <at> verona.se writes:

Hi Joakim,

> There is a possible documentation bug in TRAMP.
>
> The TRAMP docs say:
>
> ,----
> |    Opening `/sudo:randomhost.your.domain:' would connect first
> | `randomhost.your.domain' via `ssh' under your account name, and perform
> | `sudo -u root' on that host afterwards.  It is important to know that
> | the given method is applied on the host which has been reached so far.
> | `sudo -u root', applied on your local host, wouldn't be useful here.
> `----

You should quote the whole documentation about:

,----
| If you, for example, wants to work as 'root' on hosts in the domain
| 'your.domain', but login as 'root' is disabled for non-local
| access, you might add the following rule:
|
|      (add-to-list 'tramp-default-proxies-alist
|                   '("\\.your\\.domain\\'" "\\`root\\'" "/ssh:%h:"))
|
| Opening '/sudo:randomhost.your.domain:' would connect first
| 'randomhost.your.domain' via 'ssh' under your account name, and
| perform 'sudo -u root' on that host afterwards.  It is important to
| know that the given method is applied on the host which has been
| reached so far.  'sudo -u root', applied on your local host,
| wouldn't be useful here.
`----

I'll mark it as not-a-bug.

Best regards, Michael.




Added tag(s) notabug. Request was from Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:07:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to 14142 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and joakim <at> verona.se Request was from Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:07:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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