From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Petr Hracek Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.136438701918030 (code B ref -1); Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:24:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2013 12:23:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47159 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKpOD-0004gk-Sv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:23:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34660) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKpO9-0004gb-VG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:23:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKpLm-0002Vi-KF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:21:09 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:51378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKpLm-0002Ve-Gr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:21:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46000) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKpLi-0007zu-LT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:21:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKpLf-0002Ue-6g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:21:02 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:20304) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKpLe-0002UP-VS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:20:59 -0400 Received: from int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2RCKusR019817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:20:57 -0400 Received: from kiasportyw.brq.redhat.com (unused-4-188.brq.redhat.com [10.34.4.188]) by int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2RCKtmq021566 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:20:56 -0400 Message-ID: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:20:54 +0100 From: Petr Hracek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130311 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.22 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hi folks, it seems that in version 24.3 all info pages located in emacs-24.3/info directory have names .info which after installation have names .info.gz After installation on target system info.info.gz page makes conflict with package info. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=927996 In version 24.2 all info pages had names which after installation have names .gz. -- S pozdravem / Best regards Petr Hracek Red Hat Czech s.r.o. BaseOS Core Services Brno Email: phracek@redhat.com Web: www.cz.redhat.com From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Petr Hracek Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.13643973232354 (code B ref 14064); Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2013 15:15:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47694 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKs4Q-0000bu-Ll for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:15:23 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:52598) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKs4N-0000bi-T7 for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:15:21 -0400 Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2RFCrcr024114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <14064@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:12:53 -0400 Received: from kiasportyw.brq.redhat.com (unused-4-188.brq.redhat.com [10.34.4.188]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2RFCq97014584 for <14064@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:12:53 -0400 Message-ID: <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:12:52 +0100 From: Petr Hracek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130311 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Just one note. I have looked into rpm package which provides info.info.gz and it is buildup from texlive srpm. I think that either from emacs or from texlive should be removed. I browsed both info files and they have really similar texts. On 03/27/2013 01:20 PM, Petr Hracek wrote: > Hi folks, > > it seems that in version 24.3 all info pages located in > emacs-24.3/info directory > have names .info which after installation have names > .info.gz > After installation on target system info.info.gz page makes conflict > with package info. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=927996 > > In version 24.2 all info pages had names which after > installation have names .gz. > -- S pozdravem / Best regards Petr Hracek Red Hat Czech s.r.o. BaseOS Core Services Brno Email: phracek@redhat.com Web: www.cz.redhat.com From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:43:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Petr Hracek Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.13643989435108 (code B ref 14064); Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:43:03 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2013 15:42:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47725 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKsUY-0001KL-Vm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:42:23 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:45676) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKsUX-0001KD-7Q for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:42:22 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ZbYLL1KqXz3hhVm; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:39:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ZbYLK2Yvrzbc17; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:39:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TEVaXoIB1A95; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:39:51 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: XB7rx+dDHuJhAN4XSBsn1jhCcp5N7wSol5xbGZR9OHo= Received: from hawking.suse.de (nat.nue.novell.com [195.135.221.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:39:51 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> X-Yow: ONE: I will donate my entire ``BABY HUEY'' comic book collection to the downtown PLASMA CENTER.. TWO: I won't START a BAND called ``KHADAFY & THE HIT SQUAD''.. THREE: I won't ever TUMBLE DRY my FOX TERRIER again!! Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:39:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> (Petr Hracek's message of "Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:20:54 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-texinfo/2013-03/msg00030.html Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Petr Hracek Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.136445876519669 (code B ref 14064); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2013 08:19:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48875 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UL83N-000578-DU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 04:19:23 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:50988) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UL83J-00056y-Bi for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 04:19:19 -0400 Received: from int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2S8GkKc031246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 04:16:46 -0400 Received: from kiasportyw.brq.redhat.com (unused-4-188.brq.redhat.com [10.34.4.188]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2S8Gg6G018135; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 04:16:45 -0400 Message-ID: <5153FC6A.4060003@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:16:42 +0100 From: Petr Hracek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130311 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.23 X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Great thank you. S pozdravem / Best regards Petr Hracek Red Hat Czech s.r.o. BaseOS Core Services Brno Email: phracek@redhat.com Web: www.cz.redhat.com On 03/27/2013 04:39 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-texinfo/2013-03/msg00030.html > > Andreas. > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 29 21:01:45 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2013 01:01:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULkAz-00009Z-2T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:01:45 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40634) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULkAx-00009T-Mc for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:01:44 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULk8P-0008Pu-3N for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:59:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:59:05 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 14064 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) merge 13965 14064 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 29 21:05:26 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2013 01:05:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULkEY-0000GC-0A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:05:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40739) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULkEX-0000G6-7J for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:05:25 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULkBy-0001rU-Jj for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:02:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:02:46 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 13965 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) severity 13965 minor From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Petr Hracek Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.136466089416542 (code B ref 14064); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2013 16:28:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52908 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULydZ-0004Ik-2t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:28:13 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULydW-0004IZ-Ad for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:28:11 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULyas-0005vP-II; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:25:26 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> X-Spook: Europol Khaddafi Majic plutonium industrial espionage X-Ran: FT1YJ[AUTrQN"DpoTZy\jxdjL[[wR!b[6|KUrC}okHW&[MuV@=."BXRjufRWqN/tY:&h_h X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:25:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> (Petr Hracek's message of "Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:12:52 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Petr Hracek wrote: > Just one note. > > I have looked into rpm package which provides info.info.gz > and it is buildup from texlive srpm. > > I think that either from emacs or from texlive should be removed. > I browsed both info files and they have really similar texts. They are basically exactly the same file, just provided by two packages. This is because both Emacs and Texinfo offer an info reader. Is this a problem? Surely there must be other instances of this kind of thing, and rpm must have a way to deal with this? This issue is not new BTW, you're just noticing it now because prior to Emacs 24.3, the Emacs version of the file was called "info" and the Texinfo version was called "info.info". Eg on a RHEL 6.4 system I have both: rpm -qf /usr/share/info/info.gz emacs-common-23.1-21.el6_2.3.x86_64 rpm -qf /usr/share/info/info.info.gz info-4.13a-8.el6.x86_64 Since Emacs 24.3 the Emacs version is also called "info.info". Thus the situation is actually better than it used to be, because now you don't get two copies of the same file. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org, Petr Hracek Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.136466351824568 (code B ref 14064); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2013 17:11:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52973 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULzJt-0006O9-8c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:11:58 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:54294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULzJq-0006Nz-C0 for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:11:55 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ZdR9y2Twhz3hhfm; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:09:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ZdR9x636qzbbt3; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:09:09 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2IpjKnkw1jc4; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:09:08 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: meZphYjp2bCi8f0LSxnw+Ow8TZuQojzUvmveSH42v0w= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-107-101.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.107.101]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:09:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 695E0CA2B4; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:09:06 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> X-Yow: An Italian is COMBING his hair in suburban DES MOINES! Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:09:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:25:26 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Glenn Morris writes: > They are basically exactly the same file, just provided by two packages. > This is because both Emacs and Texinfo offer an info reader. > Is this a problem? Surely there must be other instances of this kind of > thing, and rpm must have a way to deal with this? They are not identical, so you get a file conflict. Also, the info system does not allow two manuals with the same name. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org, Petr Hracek Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.136475163724562 (code B ref 14064); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2013 17:40:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54506 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMMFA-0006O7-4W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:40:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37186) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMMF8-0006O0-0h for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:40:35 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMMCO-0001c5-Po; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:37:44 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> X-Spook: New World Order USDOJ FSF SP4 JFK Sundevil offensive X-Ran: N;+J,T#OeB;]\/<&\FmP7HWII>NjWwm<_sKrB937L?P'%z{?w+X'9s!(_ X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:37:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:09:06 +0100") Message-ID: <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -9.2 (---------) I can't think of a good solution for this. Removing info.info from either Emacs or Texinfo is wrong IMO. Renaming it breaks links between manuals. Since the issue only shows up with package managers like rpm, then if there is no way for those managers to deal with non-identical-but-really-the-same-files, the least bad solution I can think of is for the Emacs rpm to not install info.info (because I'm betting that everyone using rpm-based systems and info has the texinfo rpm installed and will get info.info from that). From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.136475178724827 (code B ref 14064); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2013 17:43:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54513 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMMHb-0006SL-89 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:43:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMMHZ-0006SF-D5 for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:43:06 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMMEq-0001py-NM; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:40:16 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: espionage JPL SAPO basement Nazi Uzbekistan chameleon man X-Ran: ti$=q0IXu.h=HYlC@G3wd^)}/gyg (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:37:44 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -9.2 (---------) PS it does not seem to be an issue for deb-based systems, because they have chosen to install the Emacs info pages in /usr/share/info/emacs-24/ (not a good solution to this specific problem though). From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.1364756548410 (code B ref 14064); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2013 19:02:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54590 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMNWN-00006Y-VF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:02:28 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:60246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMNWL-00006P-Ca for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:02:26 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MKJ00M00GP1MB00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:59:05 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MKJ00MI9GQHM110@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:59:05 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:59:32 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Agreed. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.136476943121667 (code B ref 14064); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2013 22:37:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54797 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMQsA-0005dP-Bp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:37:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40071) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMQs7-0005dH-Cc for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:37:07 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMQpM-0001yM-Pm; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:34:16 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: bullion ANC RSA Bin Laden AVIP mailbomb BCCI Chobetsu X-Ran: ipCrn2wjIpk*}s^mNdFyZ/oP`pu"ln%s=D0wK="T0/Ay'YG]'HB"H(-+#BJQ'[X3=uzK6l X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:34:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:59:32 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -9.2 (---------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > How about installing ours only if none is found in some DIR file along > INFOPATH? What you really want is to not install on top of an existing PREFIX/share/info/info.info; but when rpms are built they use an empty build/install tree, so I don't think that would help. IMO it's an rpm problem that only rpm can fix. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.136477016122946 (code B ref 14064); Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2013 22:49:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54812 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMR3x-0005y3-8m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:49:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40223) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMR3u-0005xv-L6 for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:49:19 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMR19-0003GD-SS; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:46:27 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: morse Roswell Zachawi eavesdropping blackjack Arnett X-Ran: q{un[t3>x]dcV_p&1.!\Rgt+R,C/W2D-:Z9uiPcNCLI_IJ*Bq]5u2^"-g+52]K4+i1<}ND X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:46:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:34:16 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -9.2 (---------) > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> How about installing ours only if none is found in some DIR file along >> INFOPATH? To be more explicit; the environment at the time the rpm is built may bear no relation to the environment in which it is installed. So AFAICS there is nothing clever the Emacs install rule can do here. As I said, I'd just make the rpm spec file unconditionally not install Emacs's info.info. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 05:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.1364794689400 (code B ref 14064); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 05:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2013 05:38:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55209 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMXRY-00006O-KN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 01:38:08 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:54514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMXRW-00006G-26 for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 01:38:07 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MKK00F009TO7E00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 08:35:13 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MKK00FABA6P8820@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 08:35:13 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 08:35:41 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83sj3a3j9u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org > Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:46:27 -0400 > > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > >> How about installing ours only if none is found in some DIR file along > >> INFOPATH? > > To be more explicit; the environment at the time the rpm is built may > bear no relation to the environment in which it is installed. By "environment", are you alluding to my suggestion to look along INFOPATH? If so, we could search in certain standard directories, such as /usr/local/share/info, as well. > So AFAICS there is nothing clever the Emacs install rule can do > here. As I said, I'd just make the rpm spec file unconditionally not > install Emacs's info.info. How is an rpm more clever than Emacs? What do they do that Emacs's installation procedure cannot? From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.136483037226145 (code B ref 14064); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2013 15:32:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56124 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMgj4-0006nc-Al for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:32:51 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:60557) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMgj2-0006nU-0O for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:32:49 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMggB-0006wc-Em; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:29:51 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> <83sj3a3j9u.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Kh-11 Croatian NSA class struggle COSCO Legion of Doom X-Ran: ohFcg;aG#pG~>ans{Oo.q:S]~E~pYL7(}UjG,2C4?i}[/~IX^7p(A[)(IfL}J!';g02UO7 X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:29:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83sj3a3j9u.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 01 Apr 2013 08:35:41 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -9.2 (---------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> So AFAICS there is nothing clever the Emacs install rule can do >> here. As I said, I'd just make the rpm spec file unconditionally not >> install Emacs's info.info. > > How is an rpm more clever than Emacs? What do they do that Emacs's > installation procedure cannot? I won't explain this very well, but: You configure+build+install once on one machine, making a binary rpm that other people install on their machines. When they do so, they don't run any of the Emacs Makefile pieces, the rpm just unpacks itself (like a tar file, I guess, but smarter, registering what file gets installed where, etc). It can choose to do various clever things at installation time, but these things are controlled by the rpm's specification file, not by any part of the Emacs normal installation rules. AFAICS, there is literally nothing smart the Emacs Makefiles can do about this issue, because they are not invoked at the relevant point. From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.13648337262406 (code B ref 14064); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2013 16:28:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMhbB-0000ck-I4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:28:45 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:35217) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMhb9-0000cc-1W for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:28:44 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MKL0050049SAP00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:25:40 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MKL005K54AS7780@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:25:40 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:26:09 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83a9pijjz2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> <83sj3a3j9u.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:29:50 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> So AFAICS there is nothing clever the Emacs install rule can do > >> here. As I said, I'd just make the rpm spec file unconditionally not > >> install Emacs's info.info. > > > > How is an rpm more clever than Emacs? What do they do that Emacs's > > installation procedure cannot? > > I won't explain this very well, but: > > You configure+build+install once on one machine, making a binary rpm > that other people install on their machines. When they do so, they don't > run any of the Emacs Makefile pieces, the rpm just unpacks itself (like > a tar file, I guess, but smarter, registering what file gets installed > where, etc). It can choose to do various clever things at installation > time, but these things are controlled by the rpm's specification file, > not by any part of the Emacs normal installation rules. > > AFAICS, there is literally nothing smart the Emacs Makefiles can do > about this issue, because they are not invoked at the relevant point. That's true, but why do we bother about Emacs being installed from an rpm? That's _really_ the job of whoever prepares the rpm. They have the same problem with GDB, for example, which installs libbfd. I thought we are talking about "make install", where we do control things. Does it make sense to refrain from overwriting at that time? From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14064 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14064-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14064.13648339692829 (code B ref 14064); Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 14064) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2013 16:32:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56225 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMhf6-0000jZ-L6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:32:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:33458) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UMhf3-0000jO-Ao for 14064@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:32:46 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMhcD-0008Nq-Ss; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:29:49 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> <83sj3a3j9u.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9pijjz2.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Project Monarch Bosnia Semtex fraud Leuken-Baden 2600 X-Ran: JA~EU.l51P$sNO%.GajZ-*j[dqG:@!>r]-\hOc25M`nicTwg|~[C[EGdag@`<'\kc4SK]| X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:29:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83a9pijjz2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:26:09 +0300") Message-ID: <5cbo9yciyq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -9.2 (---------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > That's true, but why do we bother about Emacs being installed from an > rpm? Because that's the only situation in which there is a real issue (AFAICS), and is the original source of this report. > That's _really_ the job of whoever prepares the rpm. I agree, but they have reported it here. > I thought we are talking about "make install", where we do control > things. Does it make sense to refrain from overwriting at that time? Not AFAICS. Why bother? Why is it any different to overwriting eg emacs.info? It will just lead to a stale info.info hanging around forever (not that it changes much). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 05 13:31:20 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2013 17:31:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35819 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOATv-000430-MZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:31:20 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOATt-00042t-Tc for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:31:18 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOAQj-0003gA-3r for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:28:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:28:01 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 14064 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) tag 14064 wontfix From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Petr Hracek Subject: bug#14064: closed (Re: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package) Message-ID: References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 14064 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: wontfix Reply-To: 14064@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 17:32:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1365183123-15647-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1365183123-15647-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #14064: info.info page has conflict with info package which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 14064@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 14064: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D14064 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1365183123-15647-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 14064-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2013 17:31:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35816 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOATr-00042l-0u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:31:15 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54026) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOATp-00042Z-D8 for 14064-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:31:14 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOAQb-0003aL-3s; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:27:53 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 14064-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> <83sj3a3j9u.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9pijjz2.fsf@gnu.org> <5cbo9yciyq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: CDMA NASA CDC benelux Defcon Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Indigo X-Ran: Ryd8<_^Ob3=0GS,?IujmD(m)Ph-^LZD74z;&7`dW%%:es>;&aNiZa'%]};D}BQq,VQ/BH9 X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:27:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5cbo9yciyq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:29:49 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14064-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -9.3 (---------) Closing this report as wontfix in Emacs because I think this an issue for downstream packagers. ------------=_1365183123-15647-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2013 12:23:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47159 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKpOD-0004gk-Sv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:23:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34660) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UKpO9-0004gb-VG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:20:59 -0400 Received: from int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2RCKusR019817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:20:57 -0400 Received: from kiasportyw.brq.redhat.com (unused-4-188.brq.redhat.com [10.34.4.188]) by int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2RCKtmq021566 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:20:56 -0400 Message-ID: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:20:54 +0100 From: Petr Hracek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130311 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: info.info page has conflict with info package Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.22 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hi folks, it seems that in version 24.3 all info pages located in emacs-24.3/info directory have names .info which after installation have names .info.gz After installation on target system info.info.gz page makes conflict with package info. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=927996 In version 24.2 all info pages had names which after installation have names .gz. -- S pozdravem / Best regards Petr Hracek Red Hat Czech s.r.o. BaseOS Core Services Brno Email: phracek@redhat.com Web: www.cz.redhat.com ------------=_1365183123-15647-1-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:53:49 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Andreas Schwab Subject: bug#13965: closed (Re: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 13965 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: wontfix Reply-To: 13965@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 17:32:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1365183123-15647-3" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1365183123-15647-3 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #14064: info.info conflict between emacs and texinfo which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 13965@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 14064: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D14064 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1365183123-15647-3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 14064-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Apr 2013 17:31:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35816 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOATr-00042l-0u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:31:15 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54026) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UOATp-00042Z-D8 for 14064-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:31:14 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UOAQb-0003aL-3s; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:27:53 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 14064-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#14064: info.info page has conflict with info package References: <5152E426.1000800@redhat.com> <51530C74.2060000@redhat.com> <2j7gkn79nb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83wqsn2y5n.fsf@gnu.org> <83sj3a3j9u.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9pijjz2.fsf@gnu.org> <5cbo9yciyq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: CDMA NASA CDC benelux Defcon Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Indigo X-Ran: Ryd8<_^Ob3=0GS,?IujmD(m)Ph-^LZD74z;&7`dW%%:es>;&aNiZa'%]};D}BQq,VQ/BH9 X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 13:27:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5cbo9yciyq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:29:49 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 14064-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -9.3 (---------) Closing this report as wontfix in Emacs because I think this an issue for downstream packagers. ------------=_1365183123-15647-3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 11:04:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55515 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGSRN-0000Yq-Az for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:04:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48711) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGSRJ-0000Ya-TL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:04:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGSPG-0004Kg-0u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:03:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:48201) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGSPF-0004KW-UF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:02:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59743) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGSOW-00042S-CR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:02:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGSNn-00048o-SG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:01:52 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:51818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UGSNn-00048e-M6; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:01:07 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ZS3kB2YXZz4KK6t; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:01:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ZS3k96MR5zbbvd; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:01:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id liyYMAKbZuYg; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:01:04 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: S0tfk6Vj2Bo8xXzbgBlH/3smH6NYWVrq5je24aWZchM= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-124-87.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.124.87]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:01:04 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id F0652CA2B4; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:01:03 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: info.info conflict between emacs and texinfo X-Yow: Th' PINK SOCK... soaking... soaking... soaking... Th' PINK SOCK... washing... washing... washing... Th' PINK SOCK... rinsing... rinsing... rinsing... Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:01:03 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-texinfo@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Both emacs and texinfo install the info.info info file. This needs to be resolved. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." ------------=_1365183123-15647-3-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 15 17:14:31 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2015 21:14:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52707 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmpr5-0001z0-EJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:14:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58919) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmpr3-0001ys-2E for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:14:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmpr2-0005cL-B9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:14:28 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmpr2-0005cH-8L for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:14:28 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmpr1-0005ua-Qd for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:14:27 -0400 Subject: control message for bug 13965 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:14:27 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). 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