From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.136409748631935 (code B ref -1); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:59:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Mar 2013 03:58:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42769 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UJc4L-0008Ix-68 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 23:58:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40977) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UJUma-0004IB-Dd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:11:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJUc5-0005Yy-6b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:00:57 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:35729) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJUc4-0005Ry-Ux for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:00:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43785) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJUPm-0003n1-TW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:47:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJUPh-0008Qg-EA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:47:42 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::236]:56239) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJUPh-0008QI-88 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:47:37 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id ef5so2304568obb.13 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:47:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5BR18uwSSHlm4JDCubtNs01W3w9j4c2ufDNlZ64iM0g=; b=MAgb7Q5pT+l7UalMI+IXP8QKOS6jXZMulNKI2pSwPx4o79xmLgB1YA/eOq043daYXg IkpIJH9XnD5Mf+D+55T6axc4YP/z/m+UrvATGnhGmewjkGwOvIyAW8A6guEii/Nfo90I PBVuS20Jh9v6Ox3o8XHuGBCCITXAhF1FPB94a23pSaZdtOEQ6MsjgleadyPfCvcH3cGh pQ2+UXOiOdFsxO+ni25hUFGcxkIpkawj2COAT1SPnkmUvLQxdFLYj7ZjSQTTfJ7FZziA 9N0pqPY1gv75uhoQb3ALB2A2qmaauUOcDItcVTKSsNZcAEOKJnvxAgpwYbCrJnt5jxRd f4/A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.31.113 with SMTP id z17mr5811490oeh.37.1364068056569; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.29.132 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 20:47:36 +0100 Message-ID: From: Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 23:58:03 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgement at that address. Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': --- BEGIN DESCRIPTION --- After installing Fedora 18, I've come across an odd problem with Emacs. I use a Canadian multilingual keyboard. With this keyboard it is possible to type the characters of every European language based on the Latin alphabet. Dead keys are very important, as they allow one to add frequently occurring accent marks to different letters. The physical layout is here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/KB_Canadian_Multilingual= _Standard_comment-fr.svg When I first ran Emacs after the installation, the dead keys that I commonly use in French or German were not working. Emacs would display an error like ' is undefined' when I pressed the dead key and the subsquent letter was printed without an accent. The Emacs Wiki provided a partial solution: the addition of the following line to one's .emacs. (require 'iso-transl) (Source: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DeadKeys) Now I deal a lot with central Europe, and this requires me to type words in languages like Czech or Polish. Interestingly enough, one can not enter common Czech or Polish accented characters like =C4=85, =C4=99, = =C5=BC, or =C5=BE, which require a dead key. This produces an error message like ' is undefined'. What doesn't require a dead key -- =C5=82 or =C5=81 for example, works. A further letter common to Polish produced with a dead accent, =C3=B3 or =C3=93, functions. This implies that the input of non-ISO-8859-1 characters with dead keys is somehow broken. Remember, I can type letters in French or German that require dead keys without a problem and the =C3=B3 or =C3=93 is also used i= n Spanish I believe -- all ISO-8859-1. Furthermore, opening files in Emacs that contain the problem characters, or copying text containing them into Emacs, functions normally. --- END DESCRIPTION --- If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file /usr/share/emacs/24.2/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.4) of 2013-02-02 on buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11303000 Configured using: `configure '--build=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--host=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' '--program-prefix=3D' '--disable-dependency-tracking' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--exec-prefix=3D/usr' '--bindir=3D/usr/bin' '--sbindir=3D/usr/sbin' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc' '--datadir=3D/usr/share' '--includedir=3D/usr/include' '--libdir=3D/usr/lib64' '--libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec' '--localstatedir=3D/var' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--with-dbus' '--with-gif' '--with-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '--with-xft' '--with-xpm' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3' '--with-gpm=3Dno' '--with-wide-int' 'build_alias=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=3D-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=3Dssp-buffer-size=3D4 -m64 -mtune=3Dgeneric' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-z,rel= ro '' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: fr_CA.UTF8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: fr_CA.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: fr_CA.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: fr_CA.utf8 value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: show-paren-mode: t global-linum-mode: t linum-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r Recent messages: Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/desktop-entry-mode-init.el (source)...done Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/rpm-spec-mode-init.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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Load-path shadows: From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= Cc: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.136466449326330 (code B ref 14044); Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2013 17:28:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53007 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULzZd-0006qd-Hc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:28:13 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:15577) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ULzZb-0006qU-Oo for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:28:11 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxLSu/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFxLSu/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="6105730" Received: from 69-196-180-174.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.180.174]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 30 Mar 2013 13:25:25 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4E44E67BF5; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:25:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:25:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: ("Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?="'s message of "Sat, 23 Mar 2013 20:47:36 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF8 Could someone look into why "utf8" locales cause such problems, even though "utf-8" locales work just fine? Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= Cc: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.136683110723976 (code B ref 14044); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2013 19:18:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41430 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UV5D0-0006Ee-UM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:18:27 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:7017) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UV5Cy-0006EV-L0 for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:18:24 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8KABK/CFFFpYYW/2dsb2JhbABEvgsBAwEDexdzgh4BAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IPAS-Result: At8KABK/CFFFpYYW/2dsb2JhbABEvgsBAwEDexdzgh4BAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="8209031" Received: from 69-165-134-22.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.134.22]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 24 Apr 2013 15:13:15 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 54E3967A3A; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:13:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:13:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:25:28 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) >> value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF8 > Could someone look into why "utf8" locales cause such problems, even > though "utf-8" locales work just fine? For what it's worth I can't reproduce it, here. I did the following: xmodmap -e "keysym Left =3D dead_grave" LANG=3D"fr_CH.UTF8" emacs -Q and then tried dead-grave followed by e and it inserted "=E8" just as it should. This was on Debian testing. Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org, Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.1366914624533 (code B ref 14044); Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2013 18:30:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVQw3-00008X-VQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:30:24 -0400 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:59667) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVQw0-00008L-Vu for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:30:22 -0400 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB97204E1; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:25:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=gIykMRSinumfVumZ/Ig4sz 9goGg=; b=VCoCoxifMa9YEwN1SZ+MNDKYVjdF9JWgOnU2EpZhRsHPBFGy617M5i nCtmYPHFqFwcGYJt1t9HrZOEAcauXN+7/KDK/xfY+R6TWFoZrq+/sz/+YnqjuWbW W9C8hAhAwJubOTg+ykG4eCVmZr3JvvbWT3iuxl1Lx2C24j6qFdWNY= X-Sasl-enc: iwHJKUr162v7+bJLQSTaj1ClAf2Bywl47gPqC0Hj/CNd 1366914310 Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (unknown [91.67.10.84]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7BA602000B4; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:25:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Tassilo Horn References: Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:25:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:13:19 -0400") Message-ID: <87zjwm5uyi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: >>> value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF8 >> Could someone look into why "utf8" locales cause such problems, even >> though "utf-8" locales work just fine? > > For what it's worth I can't reproduce it, here. > I did the following: > > xmodmap -e "keysym Left =3D dead_grave" > LANG=3D"fr_CH.UTF8" emacs -Q > > and then tried dead-grave followed by e and it inserted "=C3=A8" just as > it should. This was on Debian testing. I also can't insert ` anymore, except with `M-x ucs-insert GRAVE ACCENT RET'. Typing ` (which is AltGr+< on my German Dvorak layout) messages just is undefined % locale LANG=3Den_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE=3DC LC_MONETARY=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION=3D"en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL=3D It used to work until one or two months ago. At that time, I updated to GNOME 3.6 from 3.4, and thought that would be the culprit. Hence I wrote this GNOME bug report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D691054 The problem only appears if I start GTK emacs from the GNOME dock, or GNOME run dialog. When I start it from a GNOME terminal, typing ` works just fine. There's a similar problem with Emacs on *BSD: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.devel.pkgsrc.user/16230 That could be solved by fixing some X config files. However, on my Gentoo GNU/Linux system, the file /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/XI18N_OBJS doesn't contain the line that's supposed to be changed by the patch floating in that thread. I'm happy to provide any further information that's needed. Not being able to type ` is really a pain in the ass. ;-) Bye, Tassilo From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Tassilo Horn Cc: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org, Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= , Stefan Monnier Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.136696671023541 (code B ref 14044); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2013 08:58:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVeU9-00067e-N3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 04:58:30 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:54780) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVeU6-00067O-VX for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 04:58:28 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Zxq1F3lQnz4KKMp; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:58:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Zxq1F215szbcNc; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:58:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23n7nzu4Vfty; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:58:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 2oTzSByYfboAmdQuBpFtQbjh2UVjm/F8lYJ1O20uuo0= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-121-241.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.121.241]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:58:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 702A6CA2B6; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:58:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87zjwm5uyi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> X-Yow: This is PLEASANT! Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:58:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zjwm5uyi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:25:09 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Tassilo Horn writes: > I also can't insert ` anymore, except with `M-x ucs-insert GRAVE ACCENT > RET'. Typing ` (which is AltGr+< on my German Dvorak layout) messages > just > > is undefined Your keyboard is misconfigured. Your X server should have a compose rule that composes the dead_grave keysym with the following key, so that Emacs doesn't see the dead_grave keysym at all (provided the composition was sucessful). At the very least the sequence or should produce the keysym. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org, Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= , Stefan Monnier Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.13669713539387 (code B ref 14044); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2013 10:15:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfh2-0002RH-Cl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:52 -0400 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:38875) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfh0-0002R9-2Q for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:51 -0400 Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5935020919; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=mMAFQcE005ogcqxsfRD5HF6grLE=; b=ME/rDLZwB66tyMl/Ej4n1ElEH+t3 euhsnj8dK4M3zApTbPQCB6wheq6W17RgS4QEBmZbmMuDLU2KT9p1UuExmdgCNwAR olLC0/82pFKe8hZfQjn8nYh4jG/XupmIpg5FGclnbuxtZINMa7cMABbnikQOhn0k Oheo5Wb+Vj155MQ= X-Sasl-enc: hQKhRNpizaOY1mqFz5ArNHWP9ZMrC7dpGlMWJelc+Agm 1366971348 Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (unknown [91.67.10.84]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 88F49200148; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:15:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Tassilo Horn References: <87zjwm5uyi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:15:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:58:22 +0200") Message-ID: <87r4hxr419.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Andreas Schwab writes: >> I also can't insert ` anymore, except with `M-x ucs-insert GRAVE >> ACCENT RET'. Typing ` (which is AltGr+< on my German Dvorak layout) >> messages just >> >> is undefined > > Your keyboard is misconfigured. Any hints how to diagnose the problem? I don't have any custom configurations for the X server at all, except this one: ,----[ /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-my-keyboard.conf ] | Section "InputClass" | Identifier "Default Keyboard" | MatchIsKeyboard "on" | Driver "evdev" | | Option "XkbLayout" "de" | Option "XkbVariant" "dvorak" | Option "XkbModel" "evdev" | Option "XkbRules" "evdev" | Option "XKbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" | EndSection `---- I haven't touched that file for years, and as said, it used to work. > Your X server should have a compose rule that composes the dead_grave > keysym with the following key, so that Emacs doesn't see the > dead_grave keysym at all (provided the composition was sucessful). At > the very least the sequence or > should produce the keysym. Hm, what's happening is actually quite different depending on application. - Any GNOME3 GTK+3 application, or GTK+2 applications like GIMP: I can insert a ` by typing AltGr+< twice, or AltGr+< SPACE. - Qt4 apps: Typing just AltGr+< immediately inserts a `, so no composition here. - xterm: I can't insert ` at all. Typing AltGr+< twice or AltGr+< SPACE seems to be ignored. Like with Emacs, I can "fix" xterm by simply starting it from a GNOME terminal. Then typing AltGr+< has the same composing behavior as in GNOME3 applications. Oh, interestingly, I can also make Qt4 apps using the composing behavior by starting them from a gnome-terminal... Bye, Tassilo From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org, Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.136697193012012 (code B ref 14044); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2013 10:25:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44238 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfqM-00037g-EI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:25:30 -0400 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:47568) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVfqJ-00037R-Pt for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:25:28 -0400 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADDB2073D; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:25:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:25:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=WV/n6creF352SdgNQ7IVGekZZ0w=; b=nowaloRDlyGx8vywnmL6NYs5Yfcz 5HJJuVWhxht9kZLe5SokffIy4azDw5G666H8TuWo9hvGd25AHQ39v/xFsedTykZs mUWq2p0Eryg+E1Mu8HB234eR3mYPCDg6MkXXXcFAKLKSdoGPm4TvoawLzrVxzhLY lMFagi0nvNWhZtg= X-Sasl-enc: l7ZO/285PJmR3Zu156QYv4C88tl1D0R4xOmsNQPG469P 1366971927 Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (unknown [91.67.10.84]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EB67B2000DE; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:25:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Tassilo Horn References: <87zjwm5uyi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87r4hxr419.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:25:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r4hxr419.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:15:46 +0200") Message-ID: <87haitpp0q.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Tassilo Horn writes: > - Any GNOME3 GTK+3 application, or GTK+2 applications like GIMP: I can > insert a ` by typing AltGr+< twice, or AltGr+< SPACE. > > - Qt4 apps: Typing just AltGr+< immediately inserts a `, so no > composition here. > > - xterm: I can't insert ` at all. Typing AltGr+< twice or AltGr+< SPACE > seems to be ignored. > > Like with Emacs, I can "fix" xterm by simply starting it from a GNOME > terminal. Then typing AltGr+< has the same composing behavior as in > GNOME3 applications. That was wrong: I can "fix" xterm this way, but not Emacs. Even when I start it from a gnome-terminal, I still only get is undefined when pressing AltGr+<. Bye, Tassilo From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org, Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.13669844509202 (code B ref 14044); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2013 13:54:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44403 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVj6F-0002OD-JP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:54:08 -0400 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:35655) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVj6A-0002Np-CK for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:54:04 -0400 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178B02029A; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:54:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=kj8Gp5nPoHEFS/OnjwD0RcJU1kM=; b=GrJDCR/oQTzzGZcZrUtrAjr6or+E MkYl2QgqMpphZKgfXqI3TVRBs2rpYOaI5CHEAfOwhC0gpcePQzt2LuKyW7cUp9fg rZmPMM7mPITx/ErhTdQAwYGvp9EGVmSFJ2wRzz3yfpDMjkuHRJjsZnDyGxC6C9eg YNONBpwBiS14Ylg= X-Sasl-enc: 5fWsfrGggyIehL40PTBHRv2iu54LzcLvG3OSurjF4swP 1366984440 Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (unknown [91.67.10.84]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5F95F2001B1; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:54:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Tassilo Horn References: <87zjwm5uyi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87r4hxr419.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87haitpp0q.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:53:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87haitpp0q.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:25:25 +0200") Message-ID: <87txmtieiy.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Hi again, I've fixed the issue in my case. The culprit was this new input method framework ibus used by GNOME 3.6. After deinstalling that, dead keys work consistently again through all applications with the same behavior. Bye, Tassilo From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: James Cloos Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:39:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 14044@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= , Andreas Schwab , Tassilo Horn Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.13670087061475 (code B ref 14044); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:39:03 +0000 Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2013 20:38:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45434 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVpPV-0000Nh-Ae for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:38:26 -0400 Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]:55540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVpPO-0000NG-DF for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:38:20 -0400 Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 199D1400C2; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:37:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1367008694; bh=hlUAceYKm6cCIWZYdws0ikWv+XjiDaKPVmIHWMcuDSA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fQ0FJwovhhoqJEsyHM1o8X21A8CmoNN20oijv1o98EwNVEs1yDkvA6YpUgKY6CVAy /kJAPyPKRndsGElGeHN+KmyM6HALjn+/QnUGQKrIwtgoNCj5k9Ji3JpXvb1AqEaPsz JEDeTLjBG+VcfXp1YIidRLGSfGDTvZOCMg60HaMc= Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 2E976DB9DF; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:36:46 +0000 (UTC) From: James Cloos In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:58:22 +0200") References: <87zjwm5uyi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2013 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:36:46 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Hashcash: 1:28:130426:14044@debbugs.gnu.org::y975Shk9Z6zF9rES:0000000000000000000000000000000000000006UftN X-Hashcash: 1:28:130426:tsdh@gnu.org::VJ/KAJvzjMrK9UsO:00008Bjc6 X-Hashcash: 1:28:130426:schwab@linux-m68k.org::UlhR2xJ69d1PveMT:0000000000000000000000000000000000000007hs/o X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) >>>>> "AS" == Andreas Schwab writes: AS> Tassilo Horn writes: >> I also can't insert ` anymore, except with `M-x ucs-insert GRAVE ACCENT >> RET'. Typing ` (which is AltGr+< on my German Dvorak layout) messages >> just >> >> is undefined AS> Your keyboard is misconfigured. Your X server should have a compose AS> rule that composes the dead_grave keysym If one uses the gtk compile of Emacs; then it may be Gnome's input rules rather than X11's. (I don't use gtk Emacs, but my tests show that other gtk apps use the gtk/gnome IMs even when compiled without libgnome or other gnome-specific support libs.) -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:20:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#14044: 24.2; Emacs 24 and dead keys in Fedora 18 Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: James Cloos Cc: "14044@debbugs.gnu.org" <14044@debbugs.gnu.org>, Alexandre =?UTF-8?Q?Lag=C3=BCe-Jacques?= , Andreas Schwab , Tassilo Horn Received: via spool by 14044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14044.136701170811962 (code B ref 14044); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 14044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2013 21:28:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45494 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVqBv-00036t-TB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:28:28 -0400 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:50143) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVqBt-00036c-SZ for 14044@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:28:26 -0400 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF13C855 for <14044@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:28:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 1649 invoked by uid 89); 26 Apr 2013 21:27:22 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 26 Apr 2013 21:27:22 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.240] (jansiphone [172.20.199.240]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5AA47FA058; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:28:20 +0200 (CEST) References: <87zjwm5uyi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20F3A54C-B254-4B0E-B6B0-3E7F5B9ED9F2@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:28:19 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) Hello.=20 26 apr 2013 kl. 22:36 skrev James Cloos : >>>>>> "AS" =3D=3D Andreas Schwab writes: >=20 > AS> Tassilo Horn writes: >>> I also can't insert ` anymore, except with `M-x ucs-insert GRAVE ACCENT >>> RET'. Typing ` (which is AltGr+< on my German Dvorak layout) messages >>> just >>>=20 >>> is undefined >=20 > AS> Your keyboard is misconfigured. Your X server should have a compose > AS> rule that composes the dead_grave keysym >=20 > If one uses the gtk compile of Emacs; then it may be Gnome's input > rules rather than X11's. (I don't use gtk Emacs, but my tests show > that other gtk apps use the gtk/gnome IMs even when compiled without > libgnome or other gnome-specific support libs.) Gtk+ has its own input processing, but Emacs does not use it. Emacs compiled= for X11, regardless of toolkit use the same code, raw Xlib or Xim. Jan D.=20= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 03 20:03:22 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2014 00:03:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42145 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X2qyH-00024a-Gf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 20:03:21 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:42391) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X2qyE-000246-1w; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 20:03:19 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWKAsLNBIUGA2IKAjSGReOOEkWhCIEqRmBaoNMIYEu X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWKAsLNBIUGA2IKAjSGReOOEkWhCIEqRmBaoNMIYEu X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="76309772" Received: from 75-119-224-253.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([75.119.224.253]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Jul 2014 20:03:11 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 82802660FA; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 20:03:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: 17928@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#17928: 24.3.92; is undefined Message-ID: References: <87vbrem34t.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 20:03:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87vbrem34t.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> (Florian Beck's message of "Fri, 04 Jul 2014 01:30:42 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) forcemerge 14044 17928 severity 17928 important thanks > After upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 (which I clearly should stop doing, > because it messed up my keybindings again, and stole C- anf who > knows what else), I get " is undefined" when I, well, press > . While it might very well be Ubuntu messing things up, > emacs recognizes the key correctly and should do the right thing. (Gnome > terminal works as expected and so does xterm.) Jan and other people who know more about X11, Gtk and input processing, what can we do about it. We really should get this fixed somehow for 24.4. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 12 02:15:37 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2014 06:15:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39958 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XH5Mu-0001lW-TU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:15:37 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34592 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XH5Ms-0001iM-Bn for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:15:35 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XH5Mr-00081A-US for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:15:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:15:33 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 15891 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) unarchive 17928 forcemerge 17928 15891