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24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:12:43 -0700

Subject line says it all.  This global var affects completion behavior,
and is not documented.

In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2013-03-17 on ODIEONE
Bzr revision: 112068 michael.albinus <at> gmx.de-20130317173046-sgy1bmmkkizorqby
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
Configured using:
 `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags
 -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib'
 

Message #8 received at 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14007: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:37:27 +0800

On 2013-03-20 23:12 +0800, Drew Adams wrote:
> Subject line says it all.  This global var affects completion behavior,
> and is not documented.

It doesn't appear to be a user variable. Why do you think it should be
documented?

Leo

Message #11 received at 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "'Leo Liu'" <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#14007: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:39:04 -0700

> > Subject line says it all.  This global var affects 
> > completion behavior, and is not documented.
> 
> It doesn't appear to be a user variable. Why do you think it should be
> documented?

Emacs users include Emacs Lisp users.  Nothing limits doc strings for variables
to user options.

Why do you think it should not be documented?  At least one user has asked that
it be documented - taken the time to file a bug/enhancement report for it.

Message #14 received at 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 'Leo Liu' <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>, 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14007: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:08:15 -0400

> Why do you think it should not be documented?  At least one user has
> asked that it be documented - taken the time to file a bug/enhancement
> report for it.

I wish he could take the time to setup Bzr access and make those
changes himself.


        Stefan

Message #17 received at 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 'Leo Liu' <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>, 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#14007: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:40:27 -0700

> > Why do you think it should not be documented?  At least one user has
> > asked that it be documented - taken the time to file a 
> > bug/enhancement report for it.
> 
> I wish he could take the time to setup Bzr access and make those
> changes himself.

Glad to hear you agree this should be fixed.

Message #20 received at 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 'Leo Liu' <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>, 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14007: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:51:39 -0400

>> > Why do you think it should not be documented?  At least one user has
>> > asked that it be documented - taken the time to file a 
>> > bug/enhancement report for it.
>> I wish he could take the time to setup Bzr access and make those
>> changes himself.
> Glad to hear you agree this should be fixed.

There's no shortage of things to fix.  Many of the ones you report are
much too low on the priority queue, so they just waste my time.


        Stefan

Message #23 received at 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 'Leo Liu' <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>, 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#14007: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:52:42 -0700

> > Glad to hear you agree this should be fixed.
> 
> There's no shortage of things to fix.

We agree about that too.  And more being created everyday. ;-)

Message #26 received at 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Subject: Re: bug#14007: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:00:49 +0800

On 2013-03-26 02:51 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> There's no shortage of things to fix.  Many of the ones you report are
> much too low on the priority queue, so they just waste my time.

Stefan, I agree. I am counting on you to bring more features to elisp.

Drew,

Really hope you can join force with emacs. You have excellent writing
skills that many of us don't have and you care a lot about users (not
just elisp authors) and usability. I think emacs can benefit from some
of your talents.

Leo

Message #29 received at 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Subject: Re: bug#14007: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:13:52 -0400

> Really hope you can join force with Emacs. You have excellent writing
> skills that many of us don't have and you care a lot about users (not
> just elisp authors) and usability. I think emacs can benefit from some
> of your talents.

Indeed.


        Stefan "Please, Drew, pretty, pretty please"

Message #32 received at 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 'Leo Liu' <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>, 14007 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14007: 24.3.50; Global var `completion-cycling' undocumented.
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 04:55:14 -0800

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:

> Emacs users include Emacs Lisp users.  Nothing limits doc strings for
> variables to user options.

It's an internal variable, not to be used by any users, and not used
outside the code that would naturally refer to it, and it means just
what anybody would think it means.  So, closing.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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