From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 12 16:57:28 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2013 20:57:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFWGG-0005c9-B9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:57:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57155) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFWGD-0005bu-2R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:57:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFWE4-0000ZW-7i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:56:18 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54878) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFWE4-0000ZF-4q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:55:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37458) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFW8I-00021r-7Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:53:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFW3N-0004J0-GC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:48:19 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:28917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFW3N-0004Ih-9B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:44:09 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r2CKi6Xr023165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:44:07 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2CKi5QK027522 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:44:06 GMT Received: from abhmt112.oracle.com (abhmt112.oracle.com [141.146.116.64]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r2CKi5wP001818 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:44:05 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.251.220) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:44:05 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:44:04 -0700 Message-ID: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac4fYlWQ6yt6ad1BSi64k1V4xTNYMw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) emacs -Q M-: (modify-frame-parameters nil '((fullscreen . fullboth))) The frame is not wide enough - about a centimeter too narrow. M-: (modify-frame-parameters nil '((fullscreen . maximized))) This does maximize the frame. However, the Elisp manual, node `Size Parameters', is incorrect in saying that either `maximized' or `fullboth' does not have window-manager decorations. Beyond that, I suspect that the text is anyway mistaken wrt the order, and that what was meant was that `fullboth', not `maximized, still has decorations. Dunno about that, however. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2013-03-04 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 111935 yamaoka@jpl.org-20130304102733-4qy111z41qwoh2as Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 12 17:26:46 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2013 21:26:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49488 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFWia-0007DS-EW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:26:45 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:50332) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFWiX-0007DE-FE for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:26:42 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJK00900GP7TR00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:25:33 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJK008XJGUKZRN0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:25:33 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:25:29 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least In-reply-to: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:44:04 -0700 > > > emacs -Q > > M-: (modify-frame-parameters nil '((fullscreen . fullboth))) > > The frame is not wide enough - about a centimeter too narrow. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.172 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4773] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:44:04 -0700 > > > emacs -Q > > M-: (modify-frame-parameters nil '((fullscreen . fullboth))) > > The frame is not wide enough - about a centimeter too narrow. That is the best I could do (on my system, the difference is much less than 1 cm, FWIW). Patches are welcome to make it better (it was totally broken before my changes). Failing that, this will remain a feature request, I'm afraid. > However, the Elisp manual, node `Size Parameters', is incorrect in > saying that either `maximized' or `fullboth' does not have > window-manager decorations. That's correct only for some window managers, certainly not on Windows. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 12 18:01:12 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2013 22:01:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFXFu-00083x-Jj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:01:11 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30807) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFXFp-00083N-Q4 for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:01:07 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r2CLxv1k011758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:59:58 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2CLxuua024147 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:59:56 GMT Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r2CLxtk3024279; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:59:55 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.251.220) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:59:55 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:59:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac4faCK66BFiPIhDSzmoGR8G2ILd+gABLlYw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) > > However, the Elisp manual, node `Size Parameters', is incorrect in > > saying that either `maximized' or `fullboth' does not have > > window-manager decorations. > > That's correct only for some window managers, certainly not on > Windows. The doc should mention this, in that case. Thx. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 12 18:40:18 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2013 22:40:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49635 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFXrj-0001UR-8W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:40:17 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:46259) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UFXrW-0001Te-Ph for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:40:06 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r2CMcsJw014672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:38:54 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2CMcrMQ011859 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:38:54 GMT Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r2CMcrii011538; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:38:53 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.251.220) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:38:53 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:38:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac4faCK66BFiPIhDSzmoGR8G2ILd+gACNPgQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) > > The frame is not wide enough - about a centimeter too narrow. > > That is the best I could do (on my system, the difference is much less > than 1 cm, FWIW). Patches are welcome to make it better (it was > totally broken before my changes). Failing that, this will remain a > feature request, I'm afraid. Yes, it is less than a centimeter for me also. It appears to be close to 0.5 cm. Perhaps the code here will help. I think it DTRT, and it has been used for a few years by others as well. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/download/frame-cmds.el See command `maximize-frame'. You can ignore the part that reduces the height to allow for a separate minibuffer frame. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 04:32:06 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 08:32:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGQ3Y-0005IA-Nb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:32:05 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:63479) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGQ3V-0005Hf-Gb for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 04:32:02 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJP008000Y4DJ00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:30:39 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJP008EO0Z224D0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:30:38 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:30:40 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams , Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Message-id: <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <13935@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:59:54 -0700 > > > > However, the Elisp manual, node `Size Parameters', is incorrect in > > > saying that either `maximized' or `fullboth' does not have > > > window-manager decorations. > > > > That's correct only for some window managers, certainly not on > > Windows. > > The doc should mention this, in that case. Thx. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.166 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4588] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <13935@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:59:54 -0700 > > > > However, the Elisp manual, node `Size Parameters', is incorrect in > > > saying that either `maximized' or `fullboth' does not have > > > window-manager decorations. > > > > That's correct only for some window managers, certainly not on > > Windows. > > The doc should mention this, in that case. Thx. I'd like to change the manual text to say the following (only the last sentence was modified). Can someone (Jan?) please verify that this is reasonably correct for all the window managers we support? If not, what needs to be changed in the wording of the last sentence? Specify that width, height or both shall be maximized. The value @code{fullwidth} specifies that width shall be as wide as possible. The value @code{fullheight} specifies that height shall be as tall as possible. The value @code{fullboth} specifies that both the width and the height shall be set to the size of the screen. The value @code{maximized} specifies that the frame shall be maximized. The difference between @code{maximized} and @code{fullboth} is that the former can still be resized by dragging window manager decorations with the mouse, while the latter really covers the whole screen and does not allow resizing by mouse dragging. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 05:26:23 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 09:26:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55455 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGQu6-0006ag-9B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 05:26:22 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com ([209.85.215.48]:35322) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGQu4-0006aR-0W for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 05:26:21 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id fq13so3442635lab.7 for <13935@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:24:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dTEYJh6jij6SejIIXfNvOqoPM3ag+X5lI4M1PrRl280=; b=QJoJ1MWkWIPKWoPhafNkjhDnMI90ctkJVVNtRuI0obj/KZB15gr/cg5fnyNrB6hael lGa7kHPm/qZxVHnDbFWBXBZMm/hYrvRm/GTOC4wEloG76pVn4HB2Y9Lv3fG0xDZsi4NC +DxoXFxvNxOC5oeo0B9in0OT1oCbZl4q4Zkfiv9fqo/ASOp6JLN4yF2YW72R/Ec6HDsY u2HtHWpkDMm6s+aaUWtiLAfzaiKpi6nIMRxp0aH7/cW2u1Eu0lIyFWpcM9d8C8Ii7SJS rWSdlReoZCUAzcpHu9fefKy2tevfzcDiIOscNaviQWSCNRlDfkvrjPQMQ2oxIs82D5ev iSOw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.23.193 with SMTP id o1mr2320790lbf.66.1363339497917; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.29.137 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 02:24:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:24:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least From: Dani Moncayo To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= , Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Hello Eli, On a related note, I've just realized that the current trunk version of Emacs (the MS-Windows port) bounds F11 to one command called `toggle-frame-fullscreen' (which is supposed to do what its name suggests). But I've just tested it in a Windows 7 system (emacs -Q) and it doesn't work well: * The first time I type F11 (to toggle fullscreen "on"), I get [1]. IIUC, the menu bar, tool bar, emacs window (with its modeline) and echo area should take the whole screen, but as you can see, that is not what is happening. * The second time I type F11 (to restore the normal size), I get [2]. The frame should be restored to its original size and position, but as you can see, that doesn't happen either (the original position of the emacs frame wasn't that). --- Footnotes ----- [1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/3f3x5ulecwqa1jy/Capture1.PNG [2] https://www.dropbox.com/s/9gz3a6lzdrsf6xs/Capture2.PNG -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 06:14:08 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 10:14:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55499 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGReJ-0007je-Nl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:14:08 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:39977) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGReG-0007j1-9C for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:14:05 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJP001005KDX200@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:12:27 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJP001ZA5ORMNB0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:12:27 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:12:29 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least In-reply-to: To: Dani Moncayo Message-id: <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:24:57 +0100 > From: Dani Moncayo > Cc: Drew Adams , Jan Dj=E4rv ,=20 > =0913935@debbugs.gnu.org >=20 > On a related note, I've just realized that the current trunk versio= n > of Emacs (the MS-Windows port) bounds F11 to one command called > `toggle-frame-fullscreen' (which is supposed to do what its name > suggests). > But I've just tested it in a Windows 7 system (emacs -Q) and it > doesn't work well: > * The first time I type F11 (to toggle fullscreen "on"), I get [1]. > IIUC, the menu bar, tool bar, emacs window (with its modeline) and > echo area should take the whole screen, but as you can see, that is > not what is happening. This was because the 'fullboth' terminology is confusing and tricked me into thinking that 'fullboth' value of the 'fullscreen' frame parameter means 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together. But in fact, 'maximized' is 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together, while 'fullboth= ' means the same as 'fullscreen'. Confusing. This is now fixed in revision 112048 on the trunk. > * The second time I type F11 (to restore the normal size), I get [2= ]. > The frame should be restored to its original size and position, but= as > you can see, that doesn't happen either (the original position of t= he > emacs frame wasn't that). This feature is not supported in the Windows build, because I couldn'= t find a way of doing that. (There's a FIXME in w32fullscreen_hook to that effect.) Patches to fix this are welcome. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 06:28:07 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 10:28:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55507 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGRrr-000860-Dg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:28:07 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]:64426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGRrq-00085T-AU for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:28:07 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id eb20so3590729lab.17 for <13935@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:26:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Isbg1LpWE/1G4gCI7Mz3YZjSqnfzNhc1wn0iHCKdkVc=; b=0kUzR/0//EnIVc/Ob81/0Eg8ObvibA5fC+N1j/1b3nf08+1rysDCz9IZpdw2Pisb+G iTeIfClafdmUw4g0tAaRkURx8C2NARziyMTDAHKuF4rdNIvK7ao85Kp6DrzP/5PNxxat JXaQ7pIbA+5RhXA2ut3gpOmQes4Srh7+Mnswbsz92fIepSKhESpb4KxEQb6pMfjMV1Sm x0SukMEYywKtY92BENv51nueqeJgA0Q1QNI0deajKSrVBtE6WclOwEm0CfIeUTXzPW/i aKZRDuTq2PwhZPiweRrk6Rw5xsDOKmSs+DWRFm3yBsqjJnWIMGmhfmP37HsWzOjho3zM C+Qg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.23.232 with SMTP id p8mr2487923lbf.38.1363343203913; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.29.137 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:26:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:26:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least From: Dani Moncayo To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) >> On a related note, I've just realized that the current trunk version >> of Emacs (the MS-Windows port) bounds F11 to one command called >> `toggle-frame-fullscreen' (which is supposed to do what its name >> suggests). >> But I've just tested it in a Windows 7 system (emacs -Q) and it >> doesn't work well: >> * The first time I type F11 (to toggle fullscreen "on"), I get [1]. >> IIUC, the menu bar, tool bar, emacs window (with its modeline) and >> echo area should take the whole screen, but as you can see, that is >> not what is happening. > > This was because the 'fullboth' terminology is confusing and tricked > me into thinking that 'fullboth' value of the 'fullscreen' frame > parameter means 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together. But in fact, > 'maximized' is 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together, while 'fullboth' > means the same as 'fullscreen'. Confusing. Yes, I also think it's a pretty confusing and counter-intuitive terminology. -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 08:02:01 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 12:02:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55593 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGTKh-0002pf-4Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:01:59 -0400 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:54320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGTKd-0002pR-E1 for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:01:56 -0400 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24ED49A49 for <13935@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:00:30 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1751 invoked by uid 89); 15 Mar 2013 11:00:27 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 15 Mar 2013 11:00:27 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.240] (unknown [172.20.199.240]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E8F87FA06C; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:00:29 +0100 (CET) References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <625B5FFD-DB0D-4137-B022-35419E095A74@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B146) From: =?utf-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:00:27 +0100 To: Eli Zaretskii X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello. 15 mar 2013 kl. 11:12 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > This was because the 'fullboth' terminology is confusing and tricked > me into thinking that 'fullboth' value of the 'fullscreen' frame > parameter means 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together. But in fact, > 'maximized' is 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together, while 'fullboth' > means the same as 'fullscreen'. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello. 15 mar 2013 kl. 11:12 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > This was because the 'fullboth' terminology is confusing and tricked > me into thinking that 'fullboth' value of the 'fullscreen' frame > parameter means 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together. But in fact, > 'maximized' is 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together, while 'fullboth' > means the same as 'fullscreen'. Confusing. > [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4746] 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars Hello. 15 mar 2013 kl. 11:12 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > This was because the 'fullboth' terminology is confusing and tricked > me into thinking that 'fullboth' value of the 'fullscreen' frame > parameter means 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together. But in fact, > 'maximized' is 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together, while 'fullboth' > means the same as 'fullscreen'. Confusing. >=20 In early versions of the EWMH-specification, there was no fullscreen. So wh= en both maximize_width an maximize_height where set, windowmanagers did not k= now if to do fullscreen or maximized. I guess I used a WM that did fullscree= n when I wrote this. Jan D. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 09:08:44 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 13:08:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55678 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGUNI-0004S6-Dt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:08:44 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:65467) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGUNG-0004Rv-VT for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:08:43 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFHO+KL9/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0QAROIHgbBLZEKA6R6gV6DEw X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFHO+KL9/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0QAROIHgbBLZEKA6R6gV6DEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="4978628" Received: from 206-248-162-253.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.162.253]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 15 Mar 2013 09:07:18 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 45E7367A61; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:07:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Dani Moncayo Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Message-ID: References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:07:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Dani Moncayo's message of "Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:26:43 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 13935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > Yes, I also think it's a pretty confusing and counter-intuitive terminology. See also bug#10670 Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 09:50:06 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 13:50:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55769 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGV1G-0005SF-9m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:50:05 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:46388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGV18-0005Ra-S5 for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:49:58 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJP00B00F8M9G00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:48:16 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJP00AQXFOFTQE0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:48:15 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:48:18 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Stefan Monnier Message-id: <83vc8s4vvh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 13935@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:07:20 -0400 > > > Yes, I also think it's a pretty confusing and counter-intuitive terminology. > > See also bug#10670 That one talks about the _name_ of the parameter; I was talking about the _values_ (and implicitly also about their reflections in the C code). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 09:55:30 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 13:55:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55986 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGV6X-0005dV-Fk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:55:30 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:60011) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGV6V-0005by-2J for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:55:28 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJP00300FRMZU00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:53:37 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJP004EQFXD0H00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:53:37 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:53:40 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least In-reply-to: <625B5FFD-DB0D-4137-B022-35419E095A74@swipnet.se> To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Message-id: <83txoc4vmj.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> <625B5FFD-DB0D-4137-B022-35419E095A74@swipnet.se> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Cc: Dani Moncayo , > "drew.adams@oracle.com" , > "13935@debbugs.gnu.org" <13935@debbugs.gnu.org> > From: Jan Djärv > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:00:27 +0100 > > > This was because the 'fullboth' terminology is confusing and tricked > > me into thinking that 'fullboth' value of the 'fullscreen' frame > > parameter means 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together. But in fact, > > 'maximized' is 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together, while 'fullboth' > > means the same as 'fullscreen'. Confusing. > > > > In early versions of the EWMH-specification, there was no fullscreen. So when both maximize_width an maximize_height where set, windowmanagers did not know if to do fullscreen or maximized. I guess I used a WM that did fullscreen when I wrote this. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.172 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4335] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, dmoncayo@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) > Cc: Dani Moncayo , > "drew.adams@oracle.com" , > "13935@debbugs.gnu.org" <13935@debbugs.gnu.org> > From: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:00:27 +0100 >=20 > > This was because the 'fullboth' terminology is confusing and tric= ked > > me into thinking that 'fullboth' value of the 'fullscreen' frame > > parameter means 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together. But in fa= ct, > > 'maximized' is 'fullwidth' and 'fullheight' together, while 'full= both' > > means the same as 'fullscreen'. Confusing. > >=20 >=20 > In early versions of the EWMH-specification, there was no fullscree= n. So when both maximize_width an maximize_height where set, windowm= anagers did not know if to do fullscreen or maximized. I guess I used= a WM that did fullscreen when I wrote this. My problem was not with how we tell the WM to go full-screen. My problem was with the Lisp symbols used for the possible values of thi= s frame parameter, and with their equivalent C enumeration values. E.g., this code in frame.c: if (NILP (new_value)) f->want_fullscreen =3D FULLSCREEN_NONE; else if (EQ (new_value, Qfullboth) || EQ (new_value, Qfullscreen)) f->want_fullscreen =3D FULLSCREEN_BOTH; else if (EQ (new_value, Qfullwidth)) f->want_fullscreen =3D FULLSCREEN_WIDTH; else if (EQ (new_value, Qfullheight)) f->want_fullscreen =3D FULLSCREEN_HEIGHT; else if (EQ (new_value, Qmaximized)) f->want_fullscreen =3D FULLSCREEN_MAXIMIZED; FULLSCREEN_BOTH is clearly hinting that it is both FULLSCREEN_HEIGHT and FULLSCREEN_WIDTH, while FULLSCREEN_MAXIMIZED is the odd one out. But in fact, it's FULLSCREEN_BOTH that's the odd one out, and on the Lisp level 'fullboth' and 'fullscreen' are synonyms. That's what confused me: the semantics of these values, and their counter-mnemoni= c nature. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 11:16:58 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 15:16:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56546 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWNN-0007hc-SM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:16:58 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:34932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWNK-0007hN-2J for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:16:55 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r2FFFT0m021325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:15:30 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2FFFSuS016437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:15:28 GMT Received: from abhmt108.oracle.com (abhmt108.oracle.com [141.146.116.60]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r2FFFS9d003743; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:15:28 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:15:27 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Jan_Dj=E4rv'?=" References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:15:24 -0700 Message-ID: <7BF20783B8284C1D81BF74087AF081E5@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac4hV2FhQ3/gbXApR7idXFJ8Dd+vsgAMNSPw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) > > > That's correct only for some window managers, certainly not on > > > Windows. > > > > The doc should mention this, in that case. Thx. > > I'd like to change the manual text to say the following (only the last > sentence was modified). Can someone (Jan?) please verify that this is > reasonably correct for all the window managers we support? If not, > what needs to be changed in the wording of the last sentence? > > Specify that width, height or both shall be maximized. The value > @code{fullwidth} specifies that width shall be as wide as possible. > The value @code{fullheight} specifies that height shall be > as tall as > possible. The value @code{fullboth} specifies that both > the width and > the height shall be set to the size of the screen. The value > @code{maximized} specifies that the frame shall be maximized. The > difference between @code{maximized} and @code{fullboth} is that the > former can still be resized by dragging window manager decorations > with the mouse, while the latter really covers the whole screen and > does not allow resizing by mouse dragging. 1. Your proposed text is OK by me. 2. You might (dunno) also want to say that whether or not all of the described behavior is realized exactly as stated can depend on the window mgr. IOW, as it is written now, it says that Emacs will do something, and it does not exactly do that in all cases. E.g., as the bug report mentioned, the frame on MS Windows is (currently) not "as wide as possible". And on Windows fullboth is not "the size of the screen" (because of the task bar and the width gap mentioned). 3. And as I said, it certainly is possible to get fullwidth on Windows to DTRT. The frame-cmds.el code I pointed to uses the full screen width - no 0.5cm gap. (And it allows for the accessible part of the screen, e.g., lets users exclude or not the Windows task bar and Mac stuff - see function `available-screen-pixel-bounds'.) 4. In spite of all that, if you want to close the bug after applying your proposed manual text, it's OK by me. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 11:18:48 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 15:18:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWP7-0007kx-De for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:18:47 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:36049) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWP3-0007kY-KG for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:18:42 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r2FFHHjR023557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:17:18 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2FFHHgm006990 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:17:17 GMT Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r2FFHHFp005263; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:17:17 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:17:17 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Dani Moncayo'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com><83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org><837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:17:13 -0700 Message-ID: <53B80166CAFD4864868D6127349A2FFE@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac4hXvkX2jXgH3AyQdaCH8KWN/Vb1QAKt90A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Jan_Dj=E4rv'?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) > On a related note, I've just realized that the current trunk version > of Emacs (the MS-Windows port) bounds F11 to one command called > `toggle-frame-fullscreen' (which is supposed to do what its name > suggests). This useful key should never have been wasted on such a toggle, IMO. Emacs is stooping to lowest(-somewhat)-common-denominator by doing this. Let users who really want Emacs to "conform" to such a "convention" bind the key themselves. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 11:18:51 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 15:18:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56554 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWPC-0007lC-Vp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:18:51 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:36067) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWP5-0007kb-Fv for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:18:44 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r2FFHJ4r023580 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:17:20 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2FFHJtn020969 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:17:19 GMT Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r2FFHIoX005288; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:17:18 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:17:18 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" , "'Dani Moncayo'" References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:17:16 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac4hZaQqQzSzvyy7R2eDTgb5J/iLIAAJJjNw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) > > * The second time I type F11 (to restore the normal size), > I get [2]. > > The frame should be restored to its original size and > position, but as > > you can see, that doesn't happen either (the original > position of the > > emacs frame wasn't that). > > This feature is not supported in the Windows build, because I couldn't > find a way of doing that. (There's a FIXME in w32fullscreen_hook to > that effect.) Patches to fix this are welcome. FWIW, the frame-cmds.el code also correctly handles restoring size and position. It does not do window-mgr maximization, however (which I guess requires C changes?). Its "maximizing" uses the available screen space and does not affect the `Maximize' button of the window mgr. (BTW, it also lets you maximize/restore only horizontally or only vertically, if you want.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 11:42:40 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 15:42:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWmG-0008Kg-21 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:42:40 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:50177) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGWmD-0008KS-Ag for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:42:38 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJP00000KR5FH00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:41:13 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJP000FDKWPDI70@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:41:13 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:41:16 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least In-reply-to: <7BF20783B8284C1D81BF74087AF081E5@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83obek4qn7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <7BF20783B8284C1D81BF74087AF081E5@us.oracle.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <13935@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:15:24 -0700 > > 2. You might (dunno) also want to say that whether or not all of the described > behavior is realized exactly as stated can depend on the window mgr. IOW, as it > is written now, it says that Emacs will do something, and it does not exactly do > that in all cases. > > E.g., as the bug report mentioned, the frame on MS Windows is (currently) not > "as wide as possible". It does that "as well as it can". > And on Windows fullboth is not "the size of the screen" > (because of the task bar and the width gap mentioned). Well, if we want to go pedantic, then "the screen size" was never formally defined. Any reasonable definition must keep the task bar visible, so I'd actually argue that the text is reasonably accurate. > 3. And as I said, it certainly is possible to get fullwidth on Windows to DTRT. > The frame-cmds.el code I pointed to uses the full screen width - no 0.5cm gap. > (And it allows for the accessible part of the screen, e.g., lets users exclude > or not the Windows task bar and Mac stuff - see function > `available-screen-pixel-bounds'.) People can use your frame-cmds.el code, until someone figures out how to do all that on the C level and in the framework of how Emacs reacts to changes of frame parameters. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 13:55:52 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 17:55:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56703 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGYr9-00036u-B5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:55:52 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:22813) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGYr7-00036i-5K for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:55:49 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFHO+IB4/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNEAETiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFHO+IB4/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNEAETiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="5004203" Received: from 206-248-128-120.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.128.120]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 15 Mar 2013 13:54:23 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 63A35678BF; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Message-ID: References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> <83vc8s4vvh.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:54:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83vc8s4vvh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:48:18 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) >> > Yes, I also think it's a pretty confusing and >> > counter-intuitive terminology. >> See also bug#10670 > That one talks about the _name_ of the parameter; I was talking about > the _values_ (and implicitly also about their reflections in the C > code). Actually, it also suggests changing the values. And the proposed names to use as values would match the names used in the C code. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 15 14:34:22 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2013 18:34:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56713 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGZSP-00043h-WC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:34:22 -0400 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:58959) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UGZSM-00043S-MG for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:34:20 -0400 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F679711 for <13935@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:32:52 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 13750 invoked by uid 89); 15 Mar 2013 17:32:49 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 15 Mar 2013 17:32:49 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.240] (unknown [172.20.199.240]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D86A7FA06C; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:32:52 +0100 (CET) References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngd55v6.fsf@gnu.org> <625B5FFD-DB0D-4137-B022-35419E095A74@swipnet.se> <83txoc4vmj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <83txoc4vmj.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D7CE1F9-3151-443B-BDA6-DDA7B6BD9BF0@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B146) From: =?utf-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:32:50 +0100 To: Eli Zaretskii X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi. 15 mar 2013 kl. 14:53 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > FULLSCREEN_BOTH is clearly hinting that it is both FULLSCREEN_HEIGHT > and FULLSCREEN_WIDTH, while FULLSCREEN_MAXIMIZED is the odd one out. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi. 15 mar 2013 kl. 14:53 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > FULLSCREEN_BOTH is clearly hinting that it is both FULLSCREEN_HEIGHT > and FULLSCREEN_WIDTH, while FULLSCREEN_MAXIMIZED is the odd one out. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4265] 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars Hi.=20 15 mar 2013 kl. 14:53 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > FULLSCREEN_BOTH is clearly hinting that it is both FULLSCREEN_HEIGHT > and FULLSCREEN_WIDTH, while FULLSCREEN_MAXIMIZED is the odd one out. As I said, when this was done, width and height implied both for some WM. T= he C values are a reflection of this. Jan D.=20= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 23 05:36:36 2013 Received: (at 13935-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2013 09:36:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41557 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UJKsN-0004Yo-SC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 05:36:36 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:49320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UJKsM-0004Yh-9D for 13935-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 05:36:35 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MK300H00X2E0000@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 13935-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:34:31 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MK300G73X9JUT90@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:34:31 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:34:35 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least In-reply-to: <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83fvzm4fys.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935-done Cc: 13935-done@debbugs.gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:30:40 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org > > I'd like to change the manual text to say the following (only the last > sentence was modified). Can someone (Jan?) please verify that this is > reasonably correct for all the window managers we support? If not, > what needs to be changed in the wording of the last sentence? > > Specify that width, height or both shall be maximized. The value > @code{fullwidth} specifies that width shall be as wide as possible. > The value @code{fullheight} specifies that height shall be as tall as > possible. The value @code{fullboth} specifies that both the width and > the height shall be set to the size of the screen. The value > @code{maximized} specifies that the frame shall be maximized. The > difference between @code{maximized} and @code{fullboth} is that the > former can still be resized by dragging window manager decorations > with the mouse, while the latter really covers the whole screen and > does not allow resizing by mouse dragging. > > Thanks. No comments, so I committed the above as trunk revision 112115, and I'm closing the bug report. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 23 11:13:20 2013 Received: (at 13935-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2013 15:13:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42356 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UJQ8G-0004ya-FP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:13:20 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:45769) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UJQ8E-0004yT-If for 13935-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:13:19 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r2NFBE52007078 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:11:15 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r2NFBDbo027906 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:11:14 GMT Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r2NFBCnZ024497; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:11:13 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:11:12 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <83fvzm4fys.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:11:06 -0700 Message-ID: <850FFCD2BA824BE6B05418ECD04AC3DA@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 In-Reply-To: <83fvzm4fys.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac4nqaHtaeUf5OSUT/yt3m6ZsLIH9QALum4A X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935-done Cc: 13935-done@debbugs.gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) > No comments, FWIW, I did provide comments. > so I committed the above as trunk revision 112115, and > I'm closing the bug report. OK by me, thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 23 11:42:00 2013 Received: (at 13935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2013 15:42:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42365 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UJQZz-0006V6-Qr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:42:00 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:56096) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UJQZx-0006Ux-Qy for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:41:58 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MK400J00E6A8200@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13935@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:39:52 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MK400I1AE6GQGB0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:39:52 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:39:57 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13935: 24.3.50; `fullscreen' frame parameter is wrong, on MS Windows at least In-reply-to: <850FFCD2BA824BE6B05418ECD04AC3DA@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <837gky3z1u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3B679DF7B809403FBE6F1593250D1D1A@us.oracle.com> <83fw00joom.fsf@gnu.org> <837gl95akv.fsf@gnu.org> <83fvzm4fys.fsf@gnu.org> <850FFCD2BA824BE6B05418ECD04AC3DA@us.oracle.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13935 Cc: 13935@debbugs.gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , <13935-done@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:11:06 -0700 > > > No comments, > > FWIW, I did provide comments. Sorry, I meant no comments about correctness of the text for X11. From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:43:46 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator