From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 10 14:25:23 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2013 18:25:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44283 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UEkvy-0002zt-VP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:25:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44241) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UEiEN-00078X-SR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:32:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UEiDR-0000u0-Ou for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:31:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:36629) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UEiDR-0000tw-Ly for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:31:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55556) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UEiDM-0005m2-Nl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:31:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UEiDH-0000s2-En for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:31:08 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]:48329) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UEiDH-0000ru-8d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:31:03 -0400 Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id c11so3885129ieb.29 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:31:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zq3X8bbpAqThM0nqjnHnBuEW6oJU7QyYCO8Srfv0lmE=; b=0D3OjwDS6RkW0FJ+atmJ5ktM58QDIkTOKIQ9pyoEagevD8ktR3cSweojC/j6eUdbbc 5P7KypSP7s8TWhUty3bJr6CYIS7zkrwCFv5cHqUsy3CsbPDpDjA6GDK04vO9sKQpZs4k rb+bXVYTMoRSCH2BOmA4Zpb1C5cP5zM0LlFlO1kom3NjtS55WUW8L5SgBsGBHjZ4LQt0 ItYqDN++d/tfiFGRLo3f5xsvRC9hHecqOF+++PTR/V79K99Yi2j8kWIwESvo6JXznBFo TPc2Y4gE2notjl+YbnG7DrK8ujw/Z3RJHMJMhbEo4f/j+KrKdJVAQYWwkG2pbXj/Y5db GBgA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.57.166 with SMTP id j6mr4983040igq.21.1362929462211; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.37.97 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 08:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:31:02 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: polytonic Greek on Windows From: Grant Reaber To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae934036f73008904d793bedc X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:25:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) --14dae934036f73008904d793bedc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Windows provides a native method of entering polytonic Greek via its polytonic Greek keyboard. This keyboard, which is based on the keyboard used in Greece, is well integrated with the operating system and works in almost all Windows applications. Emacs should support it since it is the standard way to input polytonic Greek on Windows (and, moreover, in my opinion, it is a well-designed input method). Unfortunately, it unexpectedly fails to work in Emacs. For instance, I can enter =E1=BE=B6 (= a lower case alpha with a circumflex accent) by typing '[a', but in emacs doing that just produces a question mark. As another example, I can enter =E1=BE=B7 (a lower case alpha with a circumfle= x accent and an iota subscript) by typing '[' while holding the right alt key and then typing 'a', but of course this also fails in Emacs. There is a related possible inconvenience that I have noted connected with using Emacs to edit texts in polytonic Greek. Namely, there are a lot of commands that I don't remember the key combinations for and run using M-x, but it is necessary to switch back to the Latin keyboard to run any of these commands. Since no Emacs commands have Greek names, it would be convenient if Emacs switched to the Latin keyboard automatically in this context (and any other context where Latin input is likely to be required). By the way, while trying to send this bug report from Emacs, I noticed another thing that doesn't work as smoothly as it should. I use Gmail, and I think it is possible to send mail through Gmail using its smtp server, but obviously it will want a password. But giving the Gmail smtp server to the mail program invoked by the bug reporting function just failed and sent me some cryptic error message that the server sent it. This could be much more user friendly. In fact, given how popular Gmail is, it should probably just be one of the options presented to the user for sending mail. (I ended up cutting and pasting the message into my web browser.) In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.2.9200) of 2012-08-29 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.2.9200 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: DEU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? C-y M-x =CF=81 =CE=B5 =CF=80 =CE=BF =CF=81 = M-x C-g =CF=83 =CE=B4 =CE=BB =CE=BA =CF=86 =CE=BE =CE=B4 =CE=BB =CF=86 =CE=BA = =CE=BE =CE=BB =CE=B4 =CE=BA C-a C-k M-x =CE=BA =CE=BE SPC =CE=BA C-g M-x r e p o r SPC b SPC Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Mark set delete-backward-char: Text is read-only [2 times] Quit [2 times] Quit Load-path shadows: None found. 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Windows provides a native method of entering polytoni= c Greek via its
polytonic Greek keyboard. =C2=A0This keyboard= , which is based on the keyboard
used in Greece, is well integrat= ed with the operating system and works
in almost all Windows applications. =C2=A0Emacs should support it sinc= e it is
the standard way to input polytonic Greek on Windows (and= , moreover, in
my opinion, it is a well-designed input method). = =C2=A0Unfortunately, it
unexpectedly fails to work in Emacs. =C2=A0For instance, I can enter = =E1=BE=B6 (a
lower case alpha with a circumflex accent) by
<= div>typing '[a', but in emacs doing that just produces a question m= ark. =C2=A0As
another example, I can enter =E1=BE=B7 (a lower case alpha with a circ= umflex
accent and an iota subscript) by typing '[' while = holding the right alt
key and then typing 'a', but of cou= rse this also fails in Emacs.

There is a related possible inconvenience that I have n= oted connected
with using Emacs to edit texts in polytonic Greek.= =C2=A0Namely, there are a
lot of commands that I don't remem= ber the key combinations for and run
using M-x, but it is necessary to switch back to the Latin keyboard to=
run any of these commands. =C2=A0Since no Emacs commands have Gr= eek names, it
would be convenient if Emacs switched to the Latin = keyboard
automatically in this context (and any other context where Latin input=
is likely to be required).

By the= way, while trying to send this bug report from Emacs, I noticed another th= ing that doesn't work as smoothly as it should. =C2=A0I use Gmail, and = I think it is possible to send mail through Gmail using its smtp server, bu= t obviously it will want a password. =C2=A0But giving the Gmail smtp server= to the mail program invoked by the bug reporting function just failed and = sent me some cryptic error message that the server sent it. =C2=A0This coul= d be much more user friendly. =C2=A0In fact, given how popular Gmail is, it= should probably just be one of the options presented to the user for sendi= ng mail. =C2=A0(I ended up cutting and pasting the message into my web brow= ser.)

In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.2.9200)
= =C2=A0of 2012-08-29 on MARVIN
Windowing system distributor `Micro= soft Corp.', version 6.2.9200
Configured using:
=C2= =A0`configure --with-gcc (4.6) --cflags
=C2=A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include
=C2=A0-ID:/= devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src
=C2=A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/lib= png-dev_1.4.3-1/include
=C2=A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.= 5-2/include
=C2=A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include
=C2=A0-ID= :/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include
=C2=A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/= tiff-3.8.2-1/include
=C2=A0-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/inc= lude'

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LC_ALL: nil
=C2=A0 value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
=C2=A0 value of $LC_CTY= PE: nil
=C2=A0 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
=C2=A0 value = of $LC_MONETARY: nil
=C2=A0 value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
=C2=A0 value of $LC_TIME: n= il
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: DEU
=C2=A0 value of $XMODIFIE= RS: nil
=C2=A0 locale-coding-system: cp1252
=C2=A0 defa= ult enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

M= inor modes in effect:
=C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 mou= se-wheel-mode: t
=C2=A0 tool-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 menu-ba= r-mode: t
=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 blink-cursor-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-encryption-mod= e: t
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t
=C2=A0 line-number-mode: t
=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<language-change> ? ? ?= ? ? ? ? C-y <backspace> <backspace>=C2=A0
<backsp= ace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace= >=C2=A0
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>= ; <backspace>=C2=A0
<backspace> <backspace> <= ;backspace> <backspace> <backspace>=C2=A0
<back= space> M-x =CF=81 =CE=B5 =CF=80 =CE=BF =CF=81 <backspace> <back= space> <backspace>=C2=A0
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>= ; M-x=C2=A0
C-g =CF=83 =CE=B4 =CE=BB =CE=BA =CF=86 =CE=BE =CE=B4 = =CE=BB =CF=86 =CE=BA =CE=BE =CE=BB =CE=B4 =CE=BA C-a C-k M-x =CE=BA =CE=BE = SPC=C2=A0
=CE=BA C-g <language-change> <language-change&= gt; M-x r e p=C2=A0
o r SPC b SPC <return>

Recent messages:=
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a= .
Mark set
delete-backward-char: Text is read-only [2 t= imes]
Quit [2 times]
Quit

Load-path shado= ws:
None found.

Features:
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easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
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[...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.172 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4723] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13918 Cc: 13918@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) > Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:31:02 +0000 > From: Grant Reaber >=20 > Windows provides a native method of entering polytonic Greek via it= s > polytonic Greek keyboard. This keyboard, which is based on the key= board > used in Greece, is well integrated with the operating system and wo= rks > in almost all Windows applications. Emacs should support it since = it is > the standard way to input polytonic Greek on Windows (and, moreover= , in > my opinion, it is a well-designed input method). Unfortunately, it > unexpectedly fails to work in Emacs. For instance, I can enter = =E1=BE=B6 (a > lower case alpha with a circumflex accent) by > typing '[a', but in emacs doing that just produces a question mark. Please try the latest pretest version of Emacs 24.3, I'm quite sure this is fixed there. > There is a related possible inconvenience that I have noted connect= ed > with using Emacs to edit texts in polytonic Greek. Namely, there a= re a > lot of commands that I don't remember the key combinations for and = run > using M-x, but it is necessary to switch back to the Latin keyboard= to > run any of these commands. Since no Emacs commands have Greek name= s, it > would be convenient if Emacs switched to the Latin keyboard > automatically in this context (and any other context where Latin in= put > is likely to be required). Patches are welcome to implement this (assuming it's possible). 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: (The reported bug was apparently fixed here, but then there was a feature request:) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> There is a related possible inconvenience that I have noted connected >> with using Emacs to edit texts in polytonic Greek. Namely, there are a >> lot of commands that I don't remember the key comb [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13918 Cc: 13918@debbugs.gnu.org, Grant Reaber X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) (The reported bug was apparently fixed here, but then there was a feature request:) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> There is a related possible inconvenience that I have noted connected >> with using Emacs to edit texts in polytonic Greek. Namely, there are a >> lot of commands that I don't remember the key combinations for and run >> using M-x, but it is necessary to switch back to the Latin keyboard to >> run any of these commands. Since no Emacs commands have Greek names, it >> would be convenient if Emacs switched to the Latin keyboard >> automatically in this context (and any other context where Latin input >> is likely to be required). > > Patches are welcome to implement this (assuming it's possible). Switching to a different input method in the minibuffer sounds sensible with this keyboard, but there's already a general method to do that: (add-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook (lambda () (set-input-method "whatever"))) So I don't think there's anything further to be done in this bug report, and I'm closing it. If there's something that should receive further attention here, opening a new bug report about input methods (where Latin text is expected) might be a good idea. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 31 02:25:21 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2021 06:25:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60829 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lnbMW-0003Lg-IY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 02:25:21 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:56190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lnbMS-0003LB-Ou for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 02:25:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RpdfjW1RGtMAW8AWPUs1wpOUConzbhg2FciY2xQqGR8=; b=j7f+KQAQcCo8XmOyAYHdWxPEKN rJrUgoMUq5XsNrDa0WbdlXXdcCA/ucaH3vRf/xF90ssHkEsuD3rw9N5qZgGDsMh1Q3t/yWE9vPWMM +rjm3ItqYDOWLCF32SaoRBDAJMB8qK1ebJJcED42FlDStobixQlAnVTv18yMhnsjWVo0=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lnbML-0006LD-BU for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 08:25:11 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 08:25:08 +0200 Message-Id: <87a6obju7v.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13918 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 13918 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 13918 quit From unknown Thu Aug 14 21:56:45 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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