From unknown Sat Aug 16 20:56:23 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#13850 <13850@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#13850 <13850@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt Reply-To: bug#13850 <13850@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 03:56:23 +0000 retitle 13850 Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt reassign 13850 emacs submitter 13850 Andrew Pennebaker severity 13850 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 01 15:54:31 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2013 20:54:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58638 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBWyM-00047j-EQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:54:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49279) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBWyJ-00047b-L8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:54:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBWwI-0004fY-87 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:52:24 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:47114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBWwI-0004fU-4q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:52:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60627) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBWwH-0006N9-4H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:52:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBWwG-0004fD-4l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:52:21 -0500 Received: from mail-ie0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::229]:32989) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBWwF-0004f5-W9; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 15:52:20 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 13so4146835iea.28 for ; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 12:52:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qmz041nUN+rndeCUvkFdrU86e2XSxn3QKexF87J6D0U=; b=UMvFmoXv/idv4u/h7p63MQVGjH+YzVMHFoONGaZ8uzsUcKijQhBpYQ3W2K+EQ9x3J0 X3so1aHNMSJDBdBpjPmBMdnSyUJmGBlZ0jbf1OU35A9mZqZnoPFR9b0S4bVVZe0CBUyP nTUJhMD/FUfbfyDIFcejYSKYah2sWaDzV2FuCs0i3ORsLCFsrNwZVnQniSGwk+NZrgQ3 +ar1t7DmQ+cMI3P3tNZV92sH+mMfkZSNi6K1pzNwSGJX/GGI3I6ev2nZmQYJjE/mCAs9 zXQgGh5I2Y47mqKqUOUQOgAjAeAjSYpDQvNKWiOpqk5oWRNNNmFVx33wpmNdXxbCYu8L f6Eg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.150.131 with SMTP id a3mr7528795icw.8.1362170997633; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 12:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.71.196 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:49:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 15:49:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt From: Andrew Pennebaker To: Emacs Bugs , help-emacs-windows@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e835870033304d6e32688 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) --90e6ba6e835870033304d6e32688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Currently, Emacs ties up the Command Prompt until the user quits Emacs. In Git Bash, you can hack around this with an ampersand (&), but the default behavior should really be to fork a thread for Emacs and immediately return terminal control to the user. Can we default the next version to this behavior? -- Cheers, Andrew Pennebaker www.yellosoft.us --90e6ba6e835870033304d6e32688 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Currently, Emacs ties up the Command Prompt until the user= quits Emacs. In Git Bash, you can hack around this with an ampersand (&= ;), but the default behavior should really be to fork a thread for Emacs an= d immediately return terminal control to the user.

Can we default the next version to this behavior?

--
Cheers,

Andrew= Pennebaker
--90e6ba6e835870033304d6e32688-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 01 17:58:30 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2013 22:58:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58741 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBYuL-0007BO-Ev for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:58:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41867) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBYsK-000786-QI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:56:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBYqJ-0007kd-7L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:54:20 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, T_DKIM_INVALID, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:34070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBYqJ-0007kX-4K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:54:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53202) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBYqH-0002oo-8R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:54:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBYqE-0007jf-R3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:54:17 -0500 Received: from mail-qe0-f52.google.com ([209.85.128.52]:65298) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UBYqE-0007jS-NC; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:54:14 -0500 Received: by mail-qe0-f52.google.com with SMTP id s14so2323058qeb.39 for ; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:54:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q4sQisUYWgTpE6/BSbAwiGqMW+3ETdjoAr0BuTTRey0=; b=rbHdMHetnUotpamGqyIt1qSgTaAvEKzAnT2vA5zQjKZhAX/6luW5bfGx7dn7LOjS1S ma+c/K0zlg/b/EJrxjy9zN0SIvdj+kqbE2/KnYWEKnqbCo2ZMKut1ZA7b10dS4L7M3vn iUyzhLLul79xnV/ZG18S7ZjqWnuF7tratc6a/R+rPdYZDvLAXaa+lzwyfT3y2SDMDLjw sSHf3iuieYPMR1gCovY6kJm55N4LHJnmBpOg4nwGMRpPGW6r9J0bIxqeZxFklgtVgCze KjlTGDjR/9tK2BHOXU3xOG61stMMDCYdxIeiwnj07TXnf1C6dMYqgq4nrH0MHuCdcNbN rB/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.187.196 with SMTP id cx4mr21951259qab.35.1362178454103; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.38.166 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 14:54:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:54:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [h-e-w] Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt From: "K. Frank" To: help-emacs-windows@gnu.org, Emacs Bugs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:58:28 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Hello Andrew! On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Andrew Pennebaker wrote: > Currently, Emacs ties up the Command Prompt until the user quits Emacs. In > Git Bash, you can hack around this with an ampersand (&), but the default > behavior should really be to fork a thread for Emacs and immediately return > terminal control to the user. With my old version, 23.1.1, "start", the windows analog of "&", as in: start emacs works (although emacs then opens up a new, vaguely annoying console window of its own). I believe the "official" approach (at least with my old version) is to use the companion helper program, runemacs, as in: runemacs This, I believe, will do what you are asking (although it does seem to flicker a console window briefly). > Can we default the next version to this behavior? I'll let the experts answer this one. But do let me note that emacs (at least my old version) still supports the old, text-only, console mode, as in: emacs -nw ("nw" being, I believe, an abbreviation of "no window") I have no idea whether having emacs default to "detaching" itself from the console would make continuing to support "-nw" more difficult. > Cheers, > > Andrew Pennebaker > www.yellosoft.us Good luck. K. Frank From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 02 02:27:46 2013 Received: (at 13850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2013 07:27:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54535 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBgrB-0003kc-PN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 02:27:46 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:65358) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBgr8-0003kO-U9 for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 02:27:44 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJ000700ULO0600@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:27:34 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJ0006O7VDUZR40@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:27:31 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:27:17 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13850: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andrew Pennebaker Message-id: <83k3pquuqy.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13850 Cc: 13850@debbugs.gnu.org, help-emacs-windows@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 15:49:57 -0500 > From: Andrew Pennebaker > > Currently, Emacs ties up the Command Prompt until the user quits Emacs. In > Git Bash, you can hack around this with an ampersand (&), but the default > behavior should really be to fork a thread for Emacs and immediately return > terminal control to the user. > > Can we default the next version to this behavior? We already do: just invoke runemacs.exe rather than emacs.exe. As for forking a thread: it is a bit more complex than that. (We already start at least 2 threads at startup.) The 2 most important problems are (1) the same executable should be able to run in a text terminal session under -nw, and (2) we don't want the GUI session to have a console. runemacs.exe solves both. Any reasons not to close this bug? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 02 10:00:00 2013 Received: (at 13850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2013 15:00:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55543 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBnup-0006hU-Eq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 10:00:00 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:41319) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBnum-0006hF-2e for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 09:59:57 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJ100F00G27UZ00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:59:37 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJ100FW5GBCOF40@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:59:37 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:59:24 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13850: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andrew Pennebaker Message-id: <836219vodv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k3pquuqy.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 09:43:14 -0500 > From: Andrew Pennebaker > > Would it make sense to give runemacs a -nw option, and rename it emacs.exe? No, because runemacs.exe works by invoking emacs.exe in a special way. If you rename it, it will reinvoke itself. 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 02 10:35:02 2013 Received: (at 13850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2013 15:35:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55575 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBoSj-0007U9-Oc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 10:35:02 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:48245) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBoSg-0007Td-3C for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 10:34:59 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJ100G00HW67300@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:33:53 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJ100F0ZHWGW890@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:33:52 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:33:40 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13850: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andrew Pennebaker Message-id: <834ngtvmsr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k3pquuqy.fsf@gnu.org> <836219vodv.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:13:42 -0500 > From: Andrew Pennebaker > > Hmm. I ask, because I use several operating systems, and it would be nice > to call a single command dor all of them: emacs. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:13:42 -0500 > From: Andrew Pennebaker > > Hmm. I ask, because I use several operating systems, and it would be nice > to call a single command dor all of them: emacs. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.166 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4697] > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:13:42 -0500 > From: Andrew Pennebaker > > Hmm. I ask, because I use several operating systems, and it would be nice > to call a single command dor all of them: emacs. Don't you start Emacs when the machine starts and keep it running all the time until the machine is shut down? If you do, you don't need to type the command name too much. Or you could just click the icon on the desktop, in which case you don't need to worry which executable file is being run by it. Or you could make a shell script called 'runemacs' on Unix, and have a single command to use on all platforms. > You say runemacs calls emacs with some settings. Could we achieve the same > behavior by making those the default in emacs.exe? Not trivially; at least I don't know how to do that. Take a look at runemacs.c in the sources: you will see that it runs emacs.exe with special non-default options (to hide its console window). Again, the same executable should be able to be run as a TTY session, so it must be a console program, as far as Windows is concerned. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 02 11:22:29 2013 Received: (at 13850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2013 16:22:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55609 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBpCf-00006G-8d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 11:22:29 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:33636) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBpCb-000062-Q1 for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 11:22:27 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MJ100B00IXIJH00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 18:22:14 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MJ100B23K51PW10@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 18:22:13 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 18:22:01 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13850: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andrew Pennebaker Message-id: <83zjylu5zq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k3pquuqy.fsf@gnu.org> <836219vodv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngtvmsr.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:44:33 -0500 > From: Andrew Pennebaker > > No, I run vi with "vi", python with "python", and on every other operating > system, emacs with "emacs". 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Anyway, unless someone can suggest how to pull that trick on Windows, I don't see how this feature can be made to happen. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 02 11:26:43 2013 Received: (at 13850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2013 16:26:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55616 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBpGk-0000DM-PM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 11:26:43 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com ([209.85.212.175]:62476) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UBpGh-0000D6-Tr for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 11:26:41 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id l13so544506wie.8 for <13850@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 08:26:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=hNl4ueJVBW6pkmEHjgf3R5UyF47qQGg6x/S4QK5xCRU=; b=x7n0QBXZWWdtv2q3W5o/k2nY2wzr7e/h0muURpktskimDnb2hY+vTvxefsvd548Dfm QkHxZJ8Riv0aVmHozSvWoVM4027qzQOJswniri3d0tkwM08898bLyAHPqa/dLD6Ti/2X zWY31/nXSWMNCqSoXcT++GPSOyJ0FYQIg+Umml6yirttytAiNTGB49yhH9TsOuDbEVEx kRMzAOdq21W3LUz75oujE+3luMFeY9c9Ai0dzY0IN4TIM2GMYXz9+LQHkLpJVJHGtb+n MjuRZPPp+z0UssltQfmR7Ia3IJBtSe4/b+3ywvb0K8J3giNSYH2l2ULd35CZSuVyO0Dr 9Pzg== X-Received: by 10.194.158.161 with SMTP id wv1mr23518876wjb.38.1362241590049; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 08:26:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.88.226 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 08:25:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83zjylu5zq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k3pquuqy.fsf@gnu.org> <836219vodv.fsf@gnu.org> <834ngtvmsr.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjylu5zq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 17:25:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#13850: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c6ab012c20504d6f396e6 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13850 Cc: 13850@debbugs.gnu.org, Andrew Pennebaker X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --089e013c6ab012c20504d6f396e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 What is the problem? Just start Emacs through emacsclient. (I posted code for it long ago.) On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:44:33 -0500 > > From: Andrew Pennebaker > > > > No, I run vi with "vi", python with "python", and on every other > operating > > system, emacs with "emacs". > > Sorry. > > Anyway, unless someone can suggest how to pull that trick on Windows, > I don't see how this feature can be made to happen. > > > > --089e013c6ab012c20504d6f396e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What is the problem? Just start Emacs through emacsclient.= (I posted code for it long ago.)


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@g= nu.org> wrote:
> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:44:33 -0500 > From: Andrew Pennebaker <andrew.pennebaker@gmail.com>
>
> No, I run vi with "vi", python with "python", and = on every other operating
> system, emacs with "emacs".

Sorry.

Anyway, unless someone can suggest how to pull that trick on Windows,
I don't see how this feature can be made to happen.




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[139.218.25.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q9-20020a654949000000b003c1d946af6csm2207901pgs.32.2022.05.01.02.57.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 01 May 2022 02:58:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Reicher To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#13850: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt References: <83k3pquuqy.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8upr4zf.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 19:57:51 +1000 In-Reply-To: <87v8upr4zf.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 01 May 2022 11:12:36 +0200") Message-ID: <86zgk1lgm8.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13850 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 May 2022 05:59:36 -0400 Cc: 13850@debbugs.gnu.org, help-emacs-windows@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Andrew Pennebaker X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> We already do: just invoke runemacs.exe rather than emacs.exe. >> >> As for forking a thread: it is a bit more complex than that. (We >> already start at least 2 threads at startup.) The 2 most important >> problems are (1) the same executable should be able to run in a text >> terminal session under -nw, and (2) we don't want the GUI session to >> have a console. runemacs.exe solves both. >> >> Any reasons not to close this bug? > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved > at the time.) > > "Use runemacs" seems like it's the correct answer here, so I'm closing > this bug report. It is the right answer, but I can't help thinking that there is an issue of ignorance amongst Window users. Does anyone know why the OP had this `wrong'? I think we need to keep an eye on Windows users usage patterns/habits; there may be an opportunity here, especially when it comes to the installer. Regards, - Joel From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 01 06:09:35 2022 Received: (at 13850) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2022 10:09:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59651 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6WF-0002gt-9S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2022 06:09:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46422) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6WD-0002gf-NS for 13850@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2022 06:09:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6W8-0001Kp-FZ; Sun, 01 May 2022 06:09:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=PEOqnxmsz++tcO4lyltPGl//D5v1qXmfiSZfnUcxaqs=; b=iY0+2yhiWvuu 0cqBfx7abWADuS3d4snxaq63DGp9FPc0H/gPbe6aGaBWTZB7rPh2C/I11pkdtdg67g4t5qIV6Ovxj r0AO/5SD2Zua6sTJ5Fece9wNUiSP4GqC6X63UsBLQHMvycGW6zvPHds5PLR1bAh2lHd8ii30X62Jd LeLmDQbdy85CeNM1OZKuzvSfbnJcoygQ0Hf3h7RpANR3w6nqCYvB5OIzKGJNQ54CekYLCCUW3RQSs QKiHvf51Z9LYJUh9QeybK2f1qfz5XuOASFAZSy+xsbNkZX9aKfHgUlmbY2geebwDxD6UD4symtvpL 3+vdf+GdEa+QDYmKs9aWsQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2887 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nl6W6-0007EW-20; Sun, 01 May 2022 06:09:28 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 13:09:31 +0300 Message-Id: <83bkwh7eec.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Joel Reicher In-Reply-To: <86zgk1lgm8.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Joel Reicher on Sun, 01 May 2022 19:57:51 +1000) Subject: Re: bug#13850: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt References: <83k3pquuqy.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8upr4zf.fsf@gnus.org> <86zgk1lgm8.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13850 Cc: 13850@debbugs.gnu.org, help-emacs-windows@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, andrew.pennebaker@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Joel Reicher > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 13850@debbugs.gnu.org, > help-emacs-windows@gnu.org, Andrew Pennebaker > > Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 19:57:51 +1000 > > > "Use runemacs" seems like it's the correct answer here, so I'm closing > > this bug report. > > It is the right answer, but I can't help thinking that there is an issue of ignorance amongst Window users. > > Does anyone know why the OP had this `wrong'? Most probably because (a) he comes from Unix, and (b) he didn't read the README.W32 file that comes with Emacs for Windows. 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[139.218.25.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j23-20020aa79297000000b0050dc762814fsm2698028pfa.41.2022.05.01.03.36.07 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 01 May 2022 03:36:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Reicher To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13850: Emacs for Windows: Launch better from a command prompt References: <83k3pquuqy.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8upr4zf.fsf@gnus.org> <86zgk1lgm8.fsf@gmail.com> <83bkwh7eec.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 20:35:59 +1000 In-Reply-To: <83bkwh7eec.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 01 May 2022 13:09:31 +0300") Message-ID: <86v8upleuo.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13850 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 May 2022 16:54:02 -0400 Cc: 13850@debbugs.gnu.org, help-emacs-windows@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, andrew.pennebaker@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Joel Reicher >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 13850@debbugs.gnu.org, >> help-emacs-windows@gnu.org, Andrew Pennebaker >> >> Date: Sun, 01 May 2022 19:57:51 +1000 >> >> > "Use runemacs" seems like it's the correct answer here, so I'm closing >> > this bug report. >> >> It is the right answer, but I can't help thinking that there is an issue of ignorance amongst Window users. >> >> Does anyone know why the OP had this `wrong'? > > Most probably because (a) he comes from Unix, and (b) he didn't read > the README.W32 file that comes with Emacs for Windows. If that's correct, the best measure may be to launch that README after the installer. I know I'm repeating myself a little, but I really want to give Windows users a flying start, and that requires understanding where they're coming from. Cheers, - Joel From unknown Sat Aug 16 20:56:23 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator