From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 21 03:09:29 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2013 08:09:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41276 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8RDc-0000nv-OA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:09:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46534) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8RDY-0000nk-TD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:09:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8RCG-0005Al-As for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:08:09 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, T_DKIM_INVALID, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:49756) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8RCG-0005Af-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:08:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57859) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8RCA-0007zq-4T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:08:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8RC2-00056Q-Eq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:07:58 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f50.google.com ([209.85.220.50]:65169) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8RC2-000563-7j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 03:07:50 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id fa11so4614653pad.9 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:07:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7bXKtZSW1w4Fr3BTRqj9pr6vUCCB3TsmHLAcYpUET+U=; b=KOAn3LCuDDUrmiXjA+YNM0sqL0NmO8JCnE0dCOkIdCtVKZUR0AqhXO7yVVi637NKCc v/8GrEVDCwzoeAHxSkgPm5rsx6c8d7rxc8bJXbkeHZPDkVCyLml+CfXCR0eaF4QacrRA nwqnElr7skEdOyFwrCCZeQ7NhnOsHQJZQfy4ChHdSZ5fDy7yugTOV5849Gu96DAtPuBe XWVc2AwTUWc1JY81HZ08EFl3e59NGEiyYLOj7H4qhUDrtXLtvYxGKSgiS2KrwjZ+jFYw Z/B59ub2HoewT3STg/qMmDaImeS3KQwbvPePd6lMcUwDmMDn0YCe2MH97Dza2JPdriK0 4AwQ== X-Received: by 10.66.147.137 with SMTP id tk9mr6983172pab.106.1361434069328; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from Emacs ([219.224.52.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qf7sm24545101pbb.2.2013.02.21.00.07.46 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Feb 2013 00:07:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:07:45 +0800 From: Xue Fuqiao To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; Some items on the mode-line don't have a suitable tooltip Message-Id: <20130221160745.334257d6873d56cd278ee34b@gmail.com> Organization: The Church of Emacs X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) In etc/TODO: ** Check if all items on the mode-line have a suitable tooltip for all modes. After a brief check, I found 2 bugs related to this TODO item: 1. When I used `C-h i' to enter Info mode, "*info* (dir) Top" appeared in the mode line, but "dir" does't have a suitable tooltip; 2. When I used `M-x shell' to run a subshell, the "run" in "(Shell:run)" (i.e. the `mode-line-process') doesn't have a suitable tooltip. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.0) of 2013-02-17 on Emacs Bzr revision: 111818 yamaoka@jpl.org-20130217124628-z5jn8jugxa68d36i Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11300000 System Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Configured using: `configure --config-cache --enable-link-time-optimization' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: r e - e m - b u g Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 21 21:28:22 2013 Received: (at 13776) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2013 02:28:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43430 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8iN3-0004qZ-6B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:28:22 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50878) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8iMz-0004qQ-BN for 13776@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:28:19 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8iLh-0005l7-5T; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:26:57 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Xue Fuqiao Subject: Re: bug#13776: 24.3.50; Some items on the mode-line don't have a suitable tooltip References: <20130221160745.334257d6873d56cd278ee34b@gmail.com> X-Spook: underground benelux sweep dictionary MDA illuminati S Key X-Ran: R2OA])o%;WZL5?8V,6"{_(}JmZ,ZS[tWy\D[]Rot!&WMZv;P<1ecP~5}EBd)xnNIMJGWF8 X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:26:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20130221160745.334257d6873d56cd278ee34b@gmail.com> (Xue Fuqiao's message of "Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:07:45 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13776 Cc: 13776@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Xue Fuqiao wrote: > 1. When I used `C-h i' to enter Info mode, "*info* (dir) Top" appeared > in the mode line, but "dir" does't have a suitable tooltip; > > 2. When I used `M-x shell' to run a subshell, the "run" in "(Shell:run)" > (i.e. the `mode-line-process') doesn't have a suitable tooltip. They both have factually correct tooltips. In what way are they not suitable? What would you replace them with? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 21 22:05:20 2013 Received: (at 13776) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2013 03:05:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43476 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8iwp-0006a8-Od for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:05:20 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f52.google.com ([209.85.220.52]:38080) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8iwn-0006a0-3x for 13776@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:05:18 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fb1so192686pad.39 for <13776@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:03:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Be0wGUmmestX+pDnOsMsUQKqNrph5scTLxA+8ib51zU=; b=zmqQuz5rXS8A8Sg9yvlxRKb6P6VIc9/YwtarSIE2Ka4id3pBPu16Xlj9+Dyr0gOv9A r+tgsBFXZiHnh2CvdUlPm4Ud9aneXDnFdprirnZkqxMK006IOO8kYamtkviyBQEMw7k1 KbZlvyORM0tsOvsZJcNNTR9cnZKdlDZoJgEXUoEUYTArGV9LB7j8KYBxAZmo/F8KlhQ9 mMbo6LcTMkJ4tOBlbx0upR06+9JnDVsocpjePscZIAt6ZOGdxlBnr2FmW65gYinbPHSA R/7bIqf72ch0P3F0LVd9EGJbkYIM1MoG65Hfsylt3252V27NLQ9mkFFLb6C7gMKefJnj ay4g== X-Received: by 10.68.195.197 with SMTP id ig5mr503600pbc.178.1361502236487; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Emacs ([219.224.52.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b9sm823620pba.6.2013.02.21.19.03.50 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:03:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:03:16 +0800 From: Xue Fuqiao To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#13776: 24.3.50; Some items on the mode-line don't have a suitable tooltip Message-Id: <20130222110316.dc0db9355032744a5c23ed65@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20130221160745.334257d6873d56cd278ee34b@gmail.com> Organization: The Church of Emacs X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13776 Cc: 13776@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:26:57 -0500 Glenn Morris wrote: > Xue Fuqiao wrote: > > 1. When I used `C-h i' to enter Info mode, "*info* (dir) Top" appeared > > in the mode line, but "dir" does't have a suitable tooltip; > > 2. When I used `M-x shell' to run a subshell, the "run" in "(Shell:run)" > > (i.e. the `mode-line-process') doesn't have a suitable tooltip. > They both have factually correct tooltips. > In what way are they not suitable? > What would you replace them with? Their tooltips are the same as the tooltips in the blank area of the mode-line. Maybe they should have their own tooltips. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 21 22:53:53 2013 Received: (at 13776) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2013 03:53:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43542 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8jho-0007gc-Tb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:53:53 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:53349) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8jhk-0007gT-SF for 13776@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:53:49 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U8jgR-0001TG-Po; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:52:27 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Xue Fuqiao Subject: Re: bug#13776: 24.3.50; Some items on the mode-line don't have a suitable tooltip References: <20130221160745.334257d6873d56cd278ee34b@gmail.com> <20130222110316.dc0db9355032744a5c23ed65@gmail.com> X-Spook: TWA terrorism JSOFC3IP CIDA Venezuela Mena Cocaine JPL X-Ran: JfA#hI'&[A]tx(p9di-(({JDw??ig.LrF8JHp`FBjttCP5u0eofb\sJAv@tI4CfGx]O:e. X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:52:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20130222110316.dc0db9355032744a5c23ed65@gmail.com> (Xue Fuqiao's message of "Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:03:16 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13776 Cc: 13776@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Xue Fuqiao wrote: > Their tooltips are the same as the tooltips in the blank area of the > mode-line. Maybe they should have their own tooltips. And what would those tooltips say? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 22 03:15:26 2013 Received: (at 13776) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2013 08:15:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43716 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8nmu-00058n-Cg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:15:25 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.220.41]:62971) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8nmq-00058b-8r for 13776@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:15:22 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fb11so337703pad.28 for <13776@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:13:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NZUMYz381A3yyzvHbjBZ+QssevXK+jKLIGfadDp415o=; b=CFExVFgXmPjPO953G396j5VWqnvKNS/oHxufP63mwO282r75N44yrDvz9qmULnbBer joIdkUf3dzgW3DXsdLuwZry4ZVAFL2JcOUxPT6Q4lpSmdFpDUDKS/tBgmjb8PEroRNVb 9EabV4m6/Z90ASDYnKOxT5JU1moEXiYQSZ+417S/14zXhzGc6FtnlKM5teWPITu+VeBO 7f0l76/w+A9GIzzwp04vCULCPDT4TsTdj7xQLsgJgqQE3F6XifpRlEYNfiYhR1SbDPvg 6QIWKEGphDly569Li/+SI4hG3EPXvVtv1URISsfYTwGnLG96s/g9K+kGerr3aYbv24Y8 /OMQ== X-Received: by 10.68.136.42 with SMTP id px10mr1858902pbb.32.1361520838071; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from Emacs ([219.224.52.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y9sm2175069paw.1.2013.02.22.00.13.54 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:13:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:13:53 +0800 From: Xue Fuqiao To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#13776: 24.3.50; Some items on the mode-line don't have a suitable tooltip Message-Id: <20130222161353.38fb728d51caf20e168004e6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20130221160745.334257d6873d56cd278ee34b@gmail.com> <20130222110316.dc0db9355032744a5c23ed65@gmail.com> Organization: The Church of Emacs X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13776 Cc: 13776@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:52:27 -0500 Glenn Morris wrote: > Xue Fuqiao wrote: > > Their tooltips are the same as the tooltips in the blank area of the > > mode-line. Maybe they should have their own tooltips. > And what would those tooltips say? For reference only (I haven't thought much): For info: ------------------------------------ | Info file | mouse-1: Display file name | mouse-2: Go to top node of file | mouse-3: Index ------------------------------------ For shell: ------------------------------------ | Process status | mouse-2: Kill process ------------------------------------ I think that "Info file" and "Process status" should be used at least, because there should be some introductory text, just like the `display-time-mode'. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 06 06:37:16 2021 Received: (at 13776) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 10:37:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52047 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNC03-0002hn-Rs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 06:37:16 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34746) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNC01-0002hT-9G for 13776@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 06:37:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ThY+ebJXM04sF4x+jsj23nrxQHDa5xl32J/5v7Qy1Xw=; b=uitv5nDJUSB6REN5EEuEnLn2t+ RErgVqqfc/dK5UE6xsK1BLIDMTYd7l73npQOsfD4wK9rs/YZAs1qbah6G4aNZZ3RMB5UuOPjPPfYR 47jXuGDw4/E1uE+9x6LpDopgkFzkK64hOWEglW9FpmsNepJICf3/R4bB6NGTUJZku+eQ=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNBzr-0000Pg-4s; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 12:37:06 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Xue Fuqiao Subject: Re: bug#13776: 24.3.50; Some items on the mode-line don't have a suitable tooltip References: <20130221160745.334257d6873d56cd278ee34b@gmail.com> <20130222110316.dc0db9355032744a5c23ed65@gmail.com> <20130222161353.38fb728d51caf20e168004e6@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 12:37:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20130222161353.38fb728d51caf20e168004e6@gmail.com> (Xue Fuqiao's message of "Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:13:53 +0800") Message-ID: <87bl56gfch.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Xue Fuqiao writes: > I think that "Info file" and "Process status" should be used at least, > because there should be some introductory text, just like the > `display-time-mode'. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13776 Cc: Glenn Morris , 13776@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Xue Fuqiao writes: > I think that "Info file" and "Process status" should be used at least, > because there should be some introductory text, just like the > `display-time-mode'. I've now added these short tooltips to those bits of the mode line in Emacs 28. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 06 06:37:20 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 10:37:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52050 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNC08-0002i2-2g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 06:37:20 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34762) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNC07-0002hi-6s for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 06:37:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+TT3Ts7nVapP8cjiMUUcPtaOlpJeV35WM8vm5jf1iRk=; b=NfEseNMGDGpvxUGEzbP1kcEPoX GR+fCwEOxQPzUoKaSsW+HvncRcmxEpNaDgPXtA8RE/JbVxWOg0KsY9GPlkHigTpsVOEW+fNonu4WA HMKsPC4wkrD993NSLn0h2LWrkDgHLYF3YVKHJRv7EZTTHcZCURx8izOeyqY84qyz4X2U=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNBzz-0000Pn-EY for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 12:37:13 +0200 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 12:37:09 +0200 Message-Id: <87a6kqgfca.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13776 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 13776 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 13776 28.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 06 07:19:24 2021 Received: (at 13776) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 11:19:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52158 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNCeq-0001te-1J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 07:19:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44622) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNCem-0001tP-Gi for 13776@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 07:19:22 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNCeg-0003LZ-VT; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 07:19:14 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1217 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNCef-0008FI-G8; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 07:19:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 14:19:18 +0300 Message-Id: <837dfurlxl.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87bl56gfch.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 06 Sep 2021 12:37:02 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#13776: 24.3.50; Some items on the mode-line don't have a suitable tooltip References: <20130221160745.334257d6873d56cd278ee34b@gmail.com> <20130222110316.dc0db9355032744a5c23ed65@gmail.com> <20130222161353.38fb728d51caf20e168004e6@gmail.com> <87bl56gfch.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13776 Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, rgm@gnu.org, 13776@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 12:37:02 +0200 > Cc: Glenn Morris , 13776@debbugs.gnu.org > > Xue Fuqiao writes: > > > I think that "Info file" and "Process status" should be used at least, > > because there should be some introductory text, just like the > > `display-time-mode'. > > I've now added these short tooltips to those bits of the mode line in > Emacs 28. For Info, the tooltip now says "Info file name", but that's inaccurate, because we show "elisp" when the file name is "elisp.info", and when the file is "FOO.info.gz" we show "FOO.info" (which is inconsistent, and is probably an unrelated bug). Btw, why isn't there a similar explanation in the tooltip for the node name? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 07 11:01:47 2021 Received: (at 13776) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2021 15:01:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57287 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcbb-00069v-5q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 11:01:47 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48504) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcbV-00069e-Nm for 13776@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 11:01:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=sbPNbQph7OEHYsajVKY9wrf2Ft9Xfr28eynaqQmd8Z8=; b=eK0dVp5l+I/vkcFcaLaclsG6sy iFx0CVM15bxPg/XoIiw5wRyHgN+iT2XegOGuErCEG9LX2OM2qrO9jbeCmcXZtcn7RZfQeFpt1EyOv jrr+mB0n49JJD5pWY1vIzVunq8PYS74dBwWu4AsIzVM8M/CGwuAFcHXTEjT9/dcENDmE=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNcbM-0006wz-Nb; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 17:01:35 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13776: 24.3.50; Some items on the mode-line don't have a suitable tooltip References: <20130221160745.334257d6873d56cd278ee34b@gmail.com> <20130222110316.dc0db9355032744a5c23ed65@gmail.com> <20130222161353.38fb728d51caf20e168004e6@gmail.com> <87bl56gfch.fsf@gnus.org> <837dfurlxl.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 17:01:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <837dfurlxl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 06 Sep 2021 14:19:18 +0300") Message-ID: <87a6koe8fq.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > For Info, the tooltip now says "Info file name", but that's > inaccurate, "Manual name" is slightly less wrong, perhaps, so I've changed it to that. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13776 Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, rgm@gnu.org, 13776@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > For Info, the tooltip now says "Info file name", but that's > inaccurate, "Manual name" is slightly less wrong, perhaps, so I've changed it to that. > because we show "elisp" when the file name is > "elisp.info", and when the file is "FOO.info.gz" we show "FOO.info" > (which is inconsistent, and is probably an unrelated bug). And fixed that. > Btw, why isn't there a similar explanation in the tooltip for the node > name? I don't know... would it be useful there? It's slightly more self-evident what it is there. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:16:51 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 11:24:12 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator