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[83.32.71.232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e6sm8501906wiz.1.2013.02.15.17.38.53 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rivendell) by rivendell with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U6Wjs-0007lk-6b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:38:52 +0100 From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: jao X-URL: Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:38:51 +0100 Message-ID: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Since a month ago, using emacs-snapshot (so pretty close to the Bzr head), in terminal mode (both in xterm and urxvt), i'm experiencing flickers and slow redraws in several modes. Perhaps the easiest to reproduce is using Gnus with a multiwindow layout (3 windows visible: groups, message list and message body), where entering the next group (which causes almost a complete redraw) produces a very noticeable flicker, specially when the mode lines are redrawn. For instance, right now, composing this bug report, the flicker is very noticeable (perhaps due to the special self-deletable text in the email?), although it comes and goes... In vanilla emacs 24.2/3 the redraw is immediate and totally invisible. I also sometimes see flickers when fontify region is doing its thing. 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(envelope-from ) id 1U6dzD-0008IY-SC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:23:12 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:47740) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U6dzC-0008IR-Mc for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:23:11 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MIB00M003BI6X00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:22:22 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MIB00MIB3D83G10@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:22:20 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:22:22 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame In-reply-to: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Message-id: <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:38:51 +0100 > > Since a month ago, using emacs-snapshot (so pretty close to the Bzr > head), in terminal mode (both in xterm and urxvt), i'm experiencing > flickers and slow redraws in several modes. Perhaps the easiest to > reproduce is using Gnus with a multiwindow layout (3 windows visible: > groups, message list and message body), where entering the next group > (which causes almost a complete redraw) produces a very noticeable > flicker, specially when the mode lines are redrawn. > > For instance, right now, composing this bug report, the flicker is very > noticeable (perhaps due to the special self-deletable text in the > email?), although it comes and goes... > > In vanilla emacs 24.2/3 the redraw is immediate and totally invisible. > > I also sometimes see flickers when fontify region is doing its thing. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:38:51 +0100 > > Since a month ago, using emacs-snapshot (so pretty close to the Bzr > head), in terminal mode (both in xterm and urxvt), i'm experiencing > flickers and slow redraws in several modes. Perhaps the easiest to > reproduce is using Gnus with a multiwindow layout (3 windows visible: > groups, message list and message body), where entering the next group > (which causes almost a complete redraw) produces a very noticeable > flicker, specially when the mode lines are redrawn. > > For instance, right now, composing this bug report, the flicker is very > noticeable (perhaps due to the special self-deletable text in the > email?), although it comes and goes... > > In vanilla emacs 24.2/3 the redraw is immediate and totally invisible. > > I also sometimes see flickers when fontify region is doing its thing. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.166 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4378] > From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:38:51 +0100 > > Since a month ago, using emacs-snapshot (so pretty close to the Bzr > head), in terminal mode (both in xterm and urxvt), i'm experiencing > flickers and slow redraws in several modes. Perhaps the easiest to > reproduce is using Gnus with a multiwindow layout (3 windows visible: > groups, message list and message body), where entering the next group > (which causes almost a complete redraw) produces a very noticeable > flicker, specially when the mode lines are redrawn. > > For instance, right now, composing this bug report, the flicker is very > noticeable (perhaps due to the special self-deletable text in the > email?), although it comes and goes... > > In vanilla emacs 24.2/3 the redraw is immediate and totally invisible. > > I also sometimes see flickers when fontify region is doing its thing. Many changes went under the bridge during the last month. Is it possible for you to bisect the last month worth of revisions to find the revisions that are to blame? If not, can you tell how to reproduce this with fontify region? What exactly does the last sentence mean? I don't use Gnus; is there any other way to see the flickering? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 16 18:25:39 2013 Received: (at 13727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2013 23:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U6r8U-0004pL-Fg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:25:39 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com ([209.85.212.181]:46110) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U6r8S-0004pE-5X for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:25:37 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hm6so2348208wib.14 for <13727@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:24:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:x-attribution:x-url:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=yjHqVMRP3hSxt9bFWvGskQ2xw7bdv6wYLaSYPwJkSJw=; b=nOr+Va2ku5XsARPA1J4LvQFAIprEuKaO5/gr7Le3gL5Mq1145CreDBOEY2NTUr9MwU MKSZmSptNzAvUZoB+S0bvG3yx+BbBwcl8+vs33km+LhMEsKLhZxnFhXCIh1ugZ5dRBP6 3vAUvyknz3V/6t0hl/Zc5LbMZt/ek1UHeCp1xlXyiPpHWqKB/+322lOucZ864KfHp0xu vpbGeUa8IwRP4MLNOScDexDT61QUFansHi/UBvtOq8CBzb1SVMRAeWdWLMfUMNC5UN7i IkV1hoA2TLpnITwS2n8Ad5WB8wX9GEluJrGHT4Op7/S939YOY6BPtiQOMHKDQdX/gnH9 CJgg== X-Received: by 10.180.7.232 with SMTP id m8mr10927005wia.8.1361057084669; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rivendell ([90.163.224.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cf8sm858801wib.1.2013.02.16.15.24.42 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:24:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rivendell) by rivendell with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U6r7Y-0002XH-TR; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:24:40 +0100 From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame In-Reply-To: <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:22:22 +0200") References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: jao X-URL: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:24:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13727 Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Sat, Feb 16 2013, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" >> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:38:51 +0100 >> >> Since a month ago, using emacs-snapshot (so pretty close to the Bzr >> head), in terminal mode (both in xterm and urxvt), i'm experiencing >> flickers and slow redraws in several modes. Perhaps the easiest to >> reproduce is using Gnus with a multiwindow layout (3 windows visible: >> groups, message list and message body), where entering the next group >> (which causes almost a complete redraw) produces a very noticeable >> flicker, specially when the mode lines are redrawn. >> >> For instance, right now, composing this bug report, the flicker is very >> noticeable (perhaps due to the special self-deletable text in the >> email?), although it comes and goes... >> >> In vanilla emacs 24.2/3 the redraw is immediate and totally invisible. >> >> I also sometimes see flickers when fontify region is doing its thing. > > Many changes went under the bridge during the last month. Is it > possible for you to bisect the last month worth of revisions to find > the revisions that are to blame? Not right now, but next weekend i should have time for it (i need to learn how to do that with bzr first). > If not, can you tell how to reproduce this with fontify region? What > exactly does the last sentence mean? Sorry, i was guessing there. When composing the bug message, and sometimes in fontified buffers, i've got the impression of seeing the window redisplaying itself, and it occurred to me that that redisplay could be triggered by font-lock while fontifying: but it's just guessing. > I don't use Gnus; is there any other way to see the flickering? I cannot reproduce the flickering with compose-message with -Q, and sometimes not even with all my configuration loaded. The "gnus effect" is always there though... i'll keep trying reproducing it and report back, and otherwise will eventually get to the bisecting. Thanks for your patience! Cheers, jao From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 21 01:46:28 2013 Received: (at 13727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2013 06:46:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41168 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8PvH-0007M4-Tq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 01:46:28 -0500 Received: from mail-da0-f44.google.com ([209.85.210.44]:58472) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8PvD-0007Lu-SH for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 01:46:25 -0500 Received: by mail-da0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z20so46742dae.3 for <13727@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:45:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:x-attribution:x-url:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=knoNyrhvoZ6B6DNynGdR2mzYAm52X2AeR4I0pM5HwGo=; b=uaWVihQeAO43Lk0/B6Fh73YTmorRFTYLnsPVMvV8kVwkFxtMXGNnbU92xb14Gt3xyy jU5VKSHRE2GUz3IS6g1+y8Ehx2zXDYRFXGe6OMWnsjCT3V7Ghmgq9VhpqPnA0aZbcbgl Ez7ivOCwx14rg4G1cewUH5mGSczm0AAtyUNLpY92ZkRX4hIYbmuvpsFV38oyycLb4E0d xs4Y1ut5+F+f8rWVjxxnS+SH9ELSiHBWiWhqNSZm80LlGi8yhmf4lOdgRPEJEaUQEm03 3c9ejyyb+m2D+PHiGjopTAUpndbxeHcC0OVT+F8lPdM22qY7vKB7dmD52iEdA/4Hcrm6 fr6A== X-Received: by 10.66.218.131 with SMTP id pg3mr6706142pac.89.1361429107760; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rivendell (c-24-22-80-19.hsd1.or.comcast.net. [24.22.80.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6sm113934215paz.11.2013.02.20.22.45.06 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rivendell) by rivendell with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U8Ptw-0006q7-PQ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:45:04 +0100 From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame In-Reply-To: <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> (Jose A. Ortega Ruiz's message of "Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:24:40 +0100") References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: jao X-URL: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:45:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87621mb1xr.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13727 Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Sun, Feb 17 2013, Jose A. Ortega Ruiz wrote: > On Sat, Feb 16 2013, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" >>> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:38:51 +0100 >>> >>> Since a month ago, using emacs-snapshot (so pretty close to the Bzr >>> head), in terminal mode (both in xterm and urxvt), i'm experiencing >>> flickers and slow redraws in several modes. Perhaps the easiest to >>> reproduce is using Gnus with a multiwindow layout (3 windows visible: >>> groups, message list and message body), where entering the next group >>> (which causes almost a complete redraw) produces a very noticeable >>> flicker, specially when the mode lines are redrawn. >>> >>> For instance, right now, composing this bug report, the flicker is very >>> noticeable (perhaps due to the special self-deletable text in the >>> email?), although it comes and goes... >>> >>> In vanilla emacs 24.2/3 the redraw is immediate and totally invisible. >>> >>> I also sometimes see flickers when fontify region is doing its thing. >> >> Many changes went under the bridge during the last month. Is it >> possible for you to bisect the last month worth of revisions to find >> the revisions that are to blame? > > Not right now, but next weekend i should have time for it (i need to > learn how to do that with bzr first). > >> If not, can you tell how to reproduce this with fontify region? What >> exactly does the last sentence mean? > > Sorry, i was guessing there. When composing the bug message, and > sometimes in fontified buffers, i've got the impression of seeing the > window redisplaying itself, and it occurred to me that that redisplay > could be triggered by font-lock while fontifying: but it's just > guessing. > >> I don't use Gnus; is there any other way to see the flickering? Here's a way to see the flickering: - start emacs with -daemon -Q - open an X client (emacsclient -c) - start composing a bug email, using report-emacs-bug - open a terminal client (emacsclient -t), keeping the X one open - go to the email buffer in the terminal client and modify it: every now and then i can see its lines repainting if i move around, but not always; a systematic way of making it flicker seems to be doing C-c C-k and, when the yes/no prompt in the minibuffer appears, start typing there. HTH, jao From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 21 12:14:43 2013 Received: (at 13727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2013 17:14:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42710 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8ZjH-0006p9-BZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:14:43 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:55725) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8ZjE-0006p0-T4 for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:14:42 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MIK00000XLQKR00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:12:33 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MIK00041YGXFFB0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:12:33 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:12:50 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame In-reply-to: <87621mb1xr.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Message-id: <838v6hoajx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> <87621mb1xr.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13727 Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) > From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" > Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:45:04 +0100 > > - start emacs with -daemon -Q > - open an X client (emacsclient -c) > - start composing a bug email, using report-emacs-bug > - open a terminal client (emacsclient -t), keeping the X one open > - go to the email buffer in the terminal client and modify it: every now > and then i can see its lines repainting if i move around, but not > always; a systematic way of making it flicker seems to be doing C-c > C-k and, when the yes/no prompt in the minibuffer appears, start > typing there. Thanks, but... how is this situation (when the same buffer is edited in two different frames of 2 different types) interesting? Does the flickering you see in Gnus also happen in such strange setups? 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[24.22.80.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e6sm115728559paw.16.2013.02.21.09.51.20 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rivendell) by rivendell with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U8aIh-0000Ot-CP; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:51:19 +0100 From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame In-Reply-To: <838v6hoajx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:12:50 +0200") References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> <87621mb1xr.fsf@gnu.org> <838v6hoajx.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: jao X-URL: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:51:19 +0100 Message-ID: <871uc9blns.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13727 Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Thu, Feb 21 2013, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" >> Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:45:04 +0100 >> >> - start emacs with -daemon -Q >> - open an X client (emacsclient -c) >> - start composing a bug email, using report-emacs-bug >> - open a terminal client (emacsclient -t), keeping the X one open >> - go to the email buffer in the terminal client and modify it: every now >> and then i can see its lines repainting if i move around, but not >> always; a systematic way of making it flicker seems to be doing C-c >> C-k and, when the yes/no prompt in the minibuffer appears, start >> typing there. > > Thanks, but... how is this situation (when the same buffer is edited > in two different frames of 2 different types) interesting? Only in that it is the only reliable way of showing the flickering in redisplaying windows in terminal sessions i've found, besides Gnus. (Incidentally, i wouldn't say that displaying the same buffer in two clients is "strange," but anyway, it's not needed for other flickers to happen.) > Does the flickering you see in Gnus also happen in such strange > setups? In Gnus, the redrawing is more apparent because there are 3 buffers and hence 3 modelines, and the flicker is more visible when it happens in modelines (when browsing email folders in Gnus, the three modelines sometimes change simultaneously). The flickering there doesn't need the same buffer open in two different frame types. Cheers, jao From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 21 13:39:28 2013 Received: (at 13727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2013 18:39:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42802 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8b3I-0000NX-2Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:39:28 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:41913) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8b3G-0000NM-4E for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:39:26 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MIL00K002C9Y600@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:38:06 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MIL00K9F2FHY800@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:38:06 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:38:22 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame In-reply-to: <871uc9blns.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Message-id: <83wqu1ms0x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> <87621mb1xr.fsf@gnu.org> <838v6hoajx.fsf@gnu.org> <871uc9blns.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13727 Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" > Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:51:19 +0100 > > In Gnus, the redrawing is more apparent because there are 3 buffers and > hence 3 modelines, and the flicker is more visible when it happens in > modelines (when browsing email folders in Gnus, the three modelines > sometimes change simultaneously). The flickering there doesn't need the > same buffer open in two different frame types. Do all the 3 buffers change simultaneously, due to some Gnus command you run? If so, then the flickering is expected: redisplay due to simultaneous changes in several buffers is not optimized in Emacs, it usually results in all windows on all frames being redisplayed. 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[24.22.80.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hp7sm26184855pbc.8.2013.02.21.11.11.32 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rivendell) by rivendell with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U8bYJ-0000nx-99; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:11:31 +0100 From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame In-Reply-To: <83wqu1ms0x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:38:22 +0200") References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> <87621mb1xr.fsf@gnu.org> <838v6hoajx.fsf@gnu.org> <871uc9blns.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqu1ms0x.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: jao X-URL: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:11:31 +0100 Message-ID: <87sj4pa3do.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13727 Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Thu, Feb 21 2013, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" >> Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:51:19 +0100 >> >> In Gnus, the redrawing is more apparent because there are 3 buffers and >> hence 3 modelines, and the flicker is more visible when it happens in >> modelines (when browsing email folders in Gnus, the three modelines >> sometimes change simultaneously). The flickering there doesn't need the >> same buffer open in two different frame types. > > Do all the 3 buffers change simultaneously, due to some Gnus command > you run? It's a 3 pane configuration. On the left you have a list of mail groups. On the right, there are 2 windows: top one with a list of messages, bottom with the current message. You navigate messages on the top right window. When you hit the end of the list for the current group, it goes to the next one: at that point, the left window with the list of groups is updated (to mark the current group), the top left window is updated (to show the new list of messages) and the bottom left window is updated to show the newly selected message contents. None of the window sizes changes at all. > If so, then the flickering is expected: redisplay due to > simultaneous changes in several buffers is not optimized in Emacs, it > usually results in all windows on all frames being redisplayed. Well, the flickering most definitely doesn't happen for emacs 24.2, and hasn't happened for me since the emacs 19.x times. What's more, it wasn't happening for snapshots until recently, and it does not happen in X mode, only in terminal windows (i would expect the redraw to be slower in X mode than in an xterm, but i might of course be wrong). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 21 14:40:31 2013 Received: (at 13727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2013 19:40:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8c0L-0001sL-Q7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:40:30 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:57854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U8c0F-0001s6-9g for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:40:24 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MIL00M0053OOA00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:39:03 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MIL00MMW593IR80@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:39:03 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:39:20 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame In-reply-to: <87sj4pa3do.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Message-id: <83txp5mp7b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> <87621mb1xr.fsf@gnu.org> <838v6hoajx.fsf@gnu.org> <871uc9blns.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqu1ms0x.fsf@gnu.org> <87sj4pa3do.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" > Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:11:31 +0100 > > Well, the flickering most definitely doesn't happen for emacs 24.2, and > hasn't happened for me since the emacs 19.x times. What's more, it > wasn't happening for snapshots until recently, and it does not happen in > X mode, only in terminal windows (i would expect the redraw to be slower > in X mode than in an xterm, but i might of course be wrong). 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Ortega Ruiz" > Cc: 13727@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:11:31 +0100 > > Well, the flickering most definitely doesn't happen for emacs 24.2, and > hasn't happened for me since the emacs 19.x times. What's more, it > wasn't happening for snapshots until recently, and it does not happen in > X mode, only in terminal windows (i would expect the redraw to be slower > in X mode than in an xterm, but i might of course be wrong). Probably a result of some recent changes in the display code, then. Perhaps you could bisect to find out which changes exactly caused that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 05 18:51:01 2014 Received: (at 13727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2014 23:51:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51420 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBCFB-0000de-5S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:51:01 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42817) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBCF8-0000dT-Mc for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:50:59 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WBCEu-00078h-J2; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 00:50:44 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> <87621mb1xr.fsf@gnu.org> <838v6hoajx.fsf@gnu.org> <871uc9blns.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqu1ms0x.fsf@gnu.org> <87sj4pa3do.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:49:41 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87sj4pa3do.fsf@gnu.org> (Jose A. Ortega Ruiz's message of "Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:11:31 +0100") Message-ID: <87k3d92k8a.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WBCEu-00078h-J2 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392249045.13605@fBn/NBLAUCsLUWw51oTmJw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13727 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 13727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" writes: > Well, the flickering most definitely doesn't happen for emacs 24.2, and > hasn't happened for me since the emacs 19.x times. What's more, it > wasn't happening for snapshots until recently, and it does not happen in > X mode, only in terminal windows (i would expect the redraw to be slower > in X mode than in an xterm, but i might of course be wrong). Are you still seeing this flickering with the current Emacs trunk? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 05 19:02:59 2014 Received: (at 13727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2014 00:02:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51493 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBCQk-0002EM-MK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 19:02:59 -0500 Received: from mail-we0-f180.google.com ([74.125.82.180]:40915) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBCQi-0002EE-Cc for 13727@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 19:02:56 -0500 Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id u57so809842wes.39 for <13727@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:02:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=TOgtCAZD0Xb/mcuxOU3+YtFdHlbi9N/jgWG1pZalLm8=; b=deBMQaxX/oxFL/ianGdA2TvT6IHO+vik/z0P9ZykllrmpH9q81PwU5lpkNmRquWmry 6l+2UAb4NLuVsRBnXVEbrRcdScTFn0FQRY3rdAUvOZI53zgTWD4PD/NNk1+TN6bsbw62 911Wjoef42/vpjuPbPIyt15fueEBoaobJ1QXvLbiR9rPg45nGbDXSql/70gtxUgUnJ70 rx0AUyfe2G6Uo8GSSYTbxd3BtQHTVrHsJn50adLgbVkZaOuoW1LGty9Jg1dM1jV+JPRu zER1+eXsFyc/IIxMdUFt3iSJbwKITaVJFK9sOKIre713z4sH/qYgzEAG7uUOWdC2V7jD A5JQ== X-Received: by 10.180.219.44 with SMTP id pl12mr4605168wic.12.1391644975526; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rivendell (21.Red-79-153-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net. 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Ortega Ruiz" To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#13727: 24.3.50; terminal emacs flickers when redrawing frame In-Reply-To: <87k3d92k8a.fsf@building.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:49:41 -0800") References: <87y5ephwb8.fsf@gnu.org> <837gm8sje9.fsf@gnu.org> <87lianhmfb.fsf@gnu.org> <87621mb1xr.fsf@gnu.org> <838v6hoajx.fsf@gnu.org> <871uc9blns.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqu1ms0x.fsf@gnu.org> <87sj4pa3do.fsf@gnu.org> <87k3d92k8a.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: jao X-URL: Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 01:02:52 +0100 Message-ID: <87bnylt8er.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13727 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 13727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Thu, Feb 06 2014, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" writes: > >> Well, the flickering most definitely doesn't happen for emacs 24.2, and >> hasn't happened for me since the emacs 19.x times. What's more, it >> wasn't happening for snapshots until recently, and it does not happen in >> X mode, only in terminal windows (i would expect the redraw to be slower >> in X mode than in an xterm, but i might of course be wrong). > > Are you still seeing this flickering with the current Emacs trunk? These days it's far less noticeable, to the point of not being a problem anymore (at least for me). I guess we can close this one. Thanks! 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