From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:01:29 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#13663 <13663@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#13663 <13663@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? Reply-To: bug#13663 <13663@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 17:01:29 +0000 retitle 13663 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? reassign 13663 emacs submitter 13663 Leo Liu severity 13663 minor tag 13663 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 09 09:58:09 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2013 14:58:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46635 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4BsM-0007Hv-Lp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:58:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60727) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4BsG-0007Hq-J1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:57:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4Bs6-0006qC-HS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:57:43 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, T_DKIM_INVALID, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:37856) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4Bs6-0006q8-Dn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:57:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43855) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4Bs5-000551-AJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:57:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4Bs4-0006pu-6p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:57:41 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f49.google.com ([209.85.160.49]:64649) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4Bs4-0006pq-07 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:57:40 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id xa12so142129pbc.8 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 06:57:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:x-debbugs-cc:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=eP2C1nAnrPy2lsDXX6hC5mKaRAm+djuhok3HXPCOIic=; b=aRbsWW6NNw5KsmstcMq2wr5EdKofjFh0PjBKF46/xQLZQyoDCpycLDnaPegB8KYthC oF2noUzSN2IJbTpChJK1lSA0GFCrr3HCelQmHqPyIeuVevnLdrsrzA4bG+6uCVbw0S2E DL721laRBhYbKTOecYtClZAWPJ8GxZKiRx+rp33LfQ0Qu3t9QZOk9jWmiBiCBouHltwR FAvw/CyfNFYa8LJazBuTN0B+V6b7KWQx/jnCbKRJAq/MZi0T3uLUSdMI2M6EeGx5VjDP e+xE9P5lIrmUj4zzoNbomzAW3GIh41dBAJN09rbpKuHjojtvMl+VWct/k6vgsfZ59cZd 059w== X-Received: by 10.68.253.34 with SMTP id zx2mr4140802pbc.60.1360421858965; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 06:57:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([119.161.133.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jv13sm1714628pbb.4.2013.02.09.06.57.36 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Feb 2013 06:57:38 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Liu To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? X-Debbugs-CC: Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:57:27 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) I am getting this when running emacs: /usr/local/emacs/share/emacs/24.2.93/lisp/gnus/message.elc:Warning: `flet' is an obsolete macro (as of 24.3); use either `cl-flet' or `cl-letf'. Why a user needs to care about this? Leo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 09 21:04:42 2013 Received: (at 13663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2013 02:04:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47611 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4MHY-0007VI-IQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:04:41 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:56437) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4MHV-0007V9-M6 for 13663@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:04:38 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFpZnt/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFFpZnt/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="889033" Received: from 69-165-153-237.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.153.237]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 09 Feb 2013 21:04:24 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 981A45919F; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 21:04:24 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Leo Liu Subject: Re: bug#13663: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:04:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:57:27 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13663 Cc: 13663@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > I am getting this when running emacs: > /usr/local/emacs/share/emacs/24.2.93/lisp/gnus/message.elc:Warning: > `flet' is an obsolete macro (as of 24.3); use either `cl-flet' or > `cl-letf'. > Why a user needs to care about this? Good question. Basically, the question is: why is this flet macro-expanded so late (instead of during byte-compilation)? Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 10 01:23:21 2013 Received: (at 13663-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2013 06:23:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47871 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4QJq-00074J-CD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:23:19 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com ([209.85.220.43]:64029) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4QJo-00074A-C2 for 13663-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:23:17 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id bh2so2708935pad.16 for <13663-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:23:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=45eB2dbLU3J9OCz27JbL7Dvo77hj0+Cwb7/erDOpdMg=; b=Sf+Ufqy6EGdfqaKXuzomqwlwS6Fl2L807+EGesknTya11ZgQvWQZHM2nndwoYFDqoo 72pqVOR9FfSXk/Q2Do+7UiRapvdRjq6YkfRwfBNT2bki341A7QlcjaAmh8FisNc2MGWI FJZjZV2oX1XbaIzDIYyU+PscKcVIVtOGxH/HulKDoC+JAN6RDdXxD9cbxljZT3VL2cBS 9grYRALji3jqT9v0bxYn+/fMHt+PIv6tvVQFFqXFBeVbI9OkjAUlCKRbCjsZ//RJFvvx LgPnM1nnr1I5ss2DDH7BZEqFUoE6O1KLcI3vMYE9+HqF33jW90Cww7fMm4qruGyrEfKd JxRQ== X-Received: by 10.66.87.8 with SMTP id t8mr31937642paz.28.1360477382535; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from Shidais-iMac.local ([119.255.41.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q4sm62765720paz.20.2013.02.09.22.22.59 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:23:01 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Liu To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#13663: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:22:55 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:04:24 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.93 (OS X 10.8.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13663-done Cc: 13663-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On 2013-02-10 10:04 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote: [snipped 7 lines] > Good question. Basically, the question is: why is this flet > macro-expanded so late (instead of during byte-compilation)? > > > Stefan Looks like message.el needs recompilation. I have just done that and the warning is gone. Leo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 10 23:19:10 2013 Received: (at 13663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2013 04:19:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49681 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4krG-0001lP-3U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:19:10 -0500 Received: from mail-da0-f43.google.com ([209.85.210.43]:33675) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4krE-0001lI-QC for 13663@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:19:09 -0500 Received: by mail-da0-f43.google.com with SMTP id u36so2597317dak.16 for <13663@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:18:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=1Ac35TAjsHleR8+dkWjgFJ0epuU9ZyDPEh82GvfYox4=; b=BfjGWATPvoGi5Rw70C0ama6f8sAIlP1c8QdBQTr6mF7YeRMkyPBv6OQXKQzD3zv+QA KZ/Eq0FU/VDArG8YgdGW90Gp24gS8mbC1VDKr/qpBwa6IFuy4l9ImfaTCwtx/6exwDqO 0i0drK2WIjiae5M0gcuvSigt874lJdpg1dR8370sentN8CLm+2B6x2Ur2xXxWfkfzX01 43UouUaBcw1Gz0hIeD6iViEKkd1irBcNxPwoQtPC7DkxDxeDjg6AXZzuZ/rEyBopqCyA AWj9Db+yt1Bpq/H2J9TQY7RJUwV60+Es+HSs8e70sIjysHGiJIXDLdBwOT/M4ld/U1xy QkOg== X-Received: by 10.66.89.132 with SMTP id bo4mr38340083pab.62.1360556330179; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:18:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from Shidais-iMac.local ([119.255.41.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t4sm24280795pax.0.2013.02.10.20.18.47 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:18:49 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Liu To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#13663: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:18:43 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:04:24 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.93 (OS X 10.8.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13663 Cc: 13663@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On 2013-02-10 10:04 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Good question. Basically, the question is: why is this flet > macro-expanded so late (instead of during byte-compilation)? The problem can not be resolved by recompiling message.el. Looks more serious. Leo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 11 06:39:22 2013 Received: (at 13663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2013 11:39:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50081 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4rjF-0003dZ-Ac for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 06:39:21 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:54480) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4rjC-0003dQ-2B for 13663@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 06:39:19 -0500 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Z4Q4c4jVXz3hhZ8; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:38:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Z4Q4c2wJKzbbcR; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:38:56 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4EasAIWgzEfw; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:37:34 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: qPR0CR7Cg6NMTtc5GwcW7mV2g4M9rEjIrXrYM1ks2LM= Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-154-56.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.154.56]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:38:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3D100CA2A1; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:38:55 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Leo Liu Subject: Re: bug#13663: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? References: X-Yow: Boy, am I glad it's only 1971... Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:38:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:18:43 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13663 Cc: 13663@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Leo Liu writes: > The problem can not be resolved by recompiling message.el. Looks more > serious. Perhaps the warning is actually triggered by some hook or advice? There is no use of flet anywhere in gnus. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 11 07:09:43 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2013 12:09:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50099 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4sCd-0004K0-MW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:09:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53107) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4sCb-0004Js-N7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:09:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4sCD-0003H7-DV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:09:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, FSL_HELO_BARE_IP_2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:39875) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4sCD-0003H2-AZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:09:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36155) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4sCC-0004tw-6T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:09:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4sC9-0003Dy-NY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:09:16 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:54007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4sC9-0003Dn-HW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:09:13 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U4sCQ-00016b-EB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:09:30 +0100 Received: from 119.255.41.66 ([119.255.41.66]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:09:30 +0100 Received: from sdl.web by 119.255.41.66 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:09:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Leo Liu Subject: Re: bug#13663: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:09:02 +0800 Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 119.255.41.66 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.93 (OS X 10.8.2) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GSGIOCNixMsDJZmPBXLhu1KSFBg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) On 2013-02-11 19:38 +0800, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Perhaps the warning is actually triggered by some hook or advice? There > is no use of flet anywhere in gnus. > > Andreas. But message.el uses it: (defun message-read-from-minibuffer (prompt &optional initial-contents) "Read from the minibuffer while providing abbrev expansion." ......) Leo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 11 09:32:00 2013 Received: (at 13663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2013 14:32:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50199 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4uQI-0001pC-2O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:32:00 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:53374) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4uQE-0001p2-2y for 13663@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:31:56 -0500 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Z4Tvm5dhzz4KK6B; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:31:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Z4Tvm3zhtzbbgm; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:31:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PvfePmqyU7Po; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:30:09 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: N1nPsmw5BFfkVnYMDLT+QSEvp8W/IkjZxUya73EVMzk= Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-154-56.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.154.56]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:31:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9EB33CA2A1; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:31:31 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Leo Liu Subject: Re: bug#13663: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? References: X-Yow: The LOGARITHM of an ISOSCELES TRIANGLE is TUESDAY WELD!! Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:31:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:09:02 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13663 Cc: 13663@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Leo Liu writes: > But message.el uses it: > > (defun message-read-from-minibuffer (prompt &optional initial-contents) Right, I was looking at trunk where it has been removed. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 11 12:11:16 2013 Received: (at 13663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2013 17:11:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51061 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4wuS-0006Tz-ER for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:11:16 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:41451) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4wuQ-0006Tt-KC for 13663@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:11:15 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U4wu4-0000mK-JY; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:10:52 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Leo Liu Subject: Re: bug#13663: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? References: X-Spook: AFSPC UOP terrorist TWA eavesdropping spy embassy data X-Ran: _Z,[''${:]`7n)h]=z/B2q4r&!iG5-YG$@yG+B*lfs&*j9"<$8>*xg`2BxBb9R[@K[8215 X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:10:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:09:02 +0800") Message-ID: <17d2w6bwtf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13663 Cc: 13663@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) Where is the recipe starting from emacs -Q? 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References: <17d2w6bwtf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAMFBMVEUaFRZLMy1dTENxVzKQ WiCrXQ97cmO/dSqSh3akjGTApXy5sJ7Sxo/Sz8Xo6eP9//xJbkruAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlw SFlzAAACxQAAAsUBidZ/7wAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMJOwHXewoAAAIBSURBVCjPVdNBiNNAFADQ6J4F x3hThHZBBC+WCFI8SS0iezRDcMHLHkLAg6gJH/fgYQ9xYlj2sLK4KHgqCgXFhda2Idmr4kkQPZQ0 nkQMbTypbMmMM2m7ZgYSmMef/5OZPwo7HFnx3uKPcmj0Dht1LWZJ+Hvr7dIFZXRUwl9VRTuuKDJ+ U44gjscknK4hhJaCkYRsWjmBtLqXlJAG2wipNe18OZJu1BBq1E8xafl4s6Jq2mUZGftU1y7CCxnp FVUDWJXx4C66BKBnErbuoaYNtoRTu6EZBsCbMn7W+5qOAR6WvxNOby9jHWC9hAf3n304CdiAByXs 3Nh9roLDkyb/sWV712vYwaLSAn8CPMHIAAzOPDKP2COAFm4Y4ODVWc6xG7KXsN7UeUJjjimx2uwd gCgNhr0i8C/xyCD5CiCKAMY3Bf5oDzx//w/fimscdcAZU2jv9sedx6+nYPPFIoWI/GK6QZ+EFGOR ErAjCnV3vPZ7XqlTIMbOLY7fLcvvmT7rXNWaGDexIY44N12TG2PDp7vqyl57dnCeuWwyNpnEURxk fTbDYeBnKRn4oejPYI4sH6WviBumEZ/GxX4X/x6EcURFZ7E071bjQGAxpcOAEOJuTiroDEea5Szv rVWLYfl7ZiQwSUToxrkux7OLixAWGz22+HIyWTRYcVfomOwvzusfjtVIGgLHf3MAAAAASUVORK5C YII= Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:25:13 +0800 In-Reply-To: <17d2w6bwtf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:10:52 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.93 (OS X 10.8.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13663 Cc: 13663@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On 2013-02-12 01:10 +0800, Glenn Morris wrote: > Where is the recipe starting from emacs -Q? Unfortunately, I have no such recipe for this bug. Leo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 11 12:38:03 2013 Received: (at 13663-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2013 17:38:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51083 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4xKM-000832-63 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:38:02 -0500 Received: from mail-da0-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]:57285) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U4xKH-00082p-H7 for 13663-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:37:59 -0500 Received: by mail-da0-f47.google.com with SMTP id s35so2759762dak.20 for <13663-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:37:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=RYlmXuqQ4iATKJJCjjZVJ04dn4K+zIGWXV+kmLYGaTA=; b=aOPx8/7PTH/y5hIiZxPtizTjoT52OxRwV3crQXIc0RrURH9qjfatP7gGz+kxazopd2 w+hUveoTMqF5xd+CPFAVpz+YTQsPJ3EGiNbaZUmKJB9phy6m6knDPzytL1k2gY+V/Eyd BWx+/tFJ7VmkKVb9IZPAsszMT6Pc3j6JXug/uNJYTr8xKkDAWYTeU5phfwG1GfNZiPl2 rve32khs3iC2zVqQyUQQNBMOJyANYWjL0dRJYT+VRBv0i6MdoF77MD9ADRqG1r31eaTo PW2xbnKMamuRgk/8mVWJFsRWjD3DYE/geZ2lQUHyHA2L8Y6labgZSIsniukiwcztH4Tn vOaw== X-Received: by 10.66.75.136 with SMTP id c8mr43069183paw.25.1360604255388; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([119.161.133.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d8sm68107404pax.23.2013.02.11.09.37.32 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:37:34 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Liu To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#13663: 24.2.93; Why warn `flet' is an obsolete macro at runtime? References: <17d2w6bwtf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAGFBMVEUzRVhbQj4eZqO6SjnT eWpxnMetm5b6/PmidmqrAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1F B9cBBwMLBfKABCMAAAFoSURBVCjPtZI9a8MwEIaFoc7aYDdelQMna0Em3tsSr0XUeE2Q6a22a+v+ fk8fSSBkbDUI6dHpfe9OEvRgiD+ApqKPJgJeB6iUUXWESjUe/ig38AJrhqqvaU2nTIXbNvOQ40fe qdry4kyGoVWsfCQalXpHnJGM01wjWdYbMlXNFdsZDO69m9aqNqxEJqTEgbM5OF7wlEfIoll1Ked4 LbM5X2EdILLokEdmI8z7g5cKED0cuTC930TYhy7ZDekkXVGw/L60TguJePPxcJF48lpsSUWEA/Ju jGFNgJOXc4Hz7TmAdBeu5Ve4AEjOi2/2jfd3cAJZ+IbNrvdjgBZY01b+HTuG3cLws6BJZqVOj/pp T0OqVwx3rFq+QmJwx3loK5JSLEhDIt62+mtC2C+SrAUxEbV6C6v2BRbd6pILBKFpepKZJHgGgrKF sptSUUoczpwg2pQ7ZH1tgs0ou/917mzz6Cs2//C978cv5l07L02orIEAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 01:37:23 +0800 In-Reply-To: <17d2w6bwtf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:10:52 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.93 (OS X 10.8.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13663-done Cc: 13663-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On 2013-02-12 01:10 +0800, Glenn Morris wrote: > Where is the recipe starting from emacs -Q? Seems as Andreas Schwab it is triggered by an advice I put on message-bogus-recipient-p which has a flet. Sorry for the noise. I have closed the bug. Leo From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:01:29 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator