From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:11:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13643: About symbolic prefix Resent-From: Xue Fuqiao Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 05:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 13643 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 13643@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.136021591410350 (code B ref -1); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 05:46:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2013 05:45:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40544 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3KIM-0002gt-7m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:45:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54624) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3KIJ-0002gl-PZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:45:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3KGz-0007fh-Tk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:43:51 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, T_DKIM_INVALID, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:43869) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3KGz-0007fa-Qa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:43:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37720) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3KGy-0003Em-5v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:43:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3KGv-0007dW-F3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:43:47 -0500 Received: from mail-da0-f46.google.com ([209.85.210.46]:48099) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3KGv-0007dL-8e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:43:45 -0500 Received: by mail-da0-f46.google.com with SMTP id p5so1029095dak.33 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:43:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bz6vTzzdJuMm7+AuHrXCAtc6xenj1zzAAwKMI8yqta0=; b=eQAxlWAH8jQOxC75tGWvqQdw0g3dF3GtoAFw5MSB7w7lst5ODUtsU8Iarw580bS6Jd FtdHWuc+EATyl67m3OUT3OZsXKbNsl5LxAgegaIiX2BMX+fPh9TtiI9ZtIrItJ40Q1KO 9DJgD0ar9FUUcsxNpSwk7nS2hd8NAtky3GysBPOrXlGhhYNTsBg7xZspd/+odNHp2RO5 WKkAVar422B6g2xaycBEUSIh3cbfSfPwBHCeUVqJ62iut65uQypBaqPIVaoo4T9zrSst 0+vt6kn9iJiaIeKxRcc5mmiabpbK7m1MkersH7juztDjEd3ikMANyEuu/1eQEumcBiOs 1ktg== X-Received: by 10.66.72.97 with SMTP id c1mr2144433pav.48.1360215823564; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:43:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from Emacs ([49.118.21.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d1sm43165924pav.6.2013.02.06.21.43.39 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:43:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:43:35 +0800 From: Xue Fuqiao Message-Id: <20130207134335.58b95462f1ec5318faa9102a@gmail.com> Organization: The Church of Emacs X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) In (info "(elisp) Active Keymaps"): When the key sequence starts with a mouse event (optionally preceded by a symbolic prefix), the active keymaps are determined based on the position in that event. I don't know what the "symbolic prefix" means here (maybe it means something like `down-mouse-1'), but I think it doesn't mean the `gnus-symbolic-argument' in Gnus. It is confusing here. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:11:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13643: Further information about "symbolic prefix" References: <20130207134335.58b95462f1ec5318faa9102a@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20130207134335.58b95462f1ec5318faa9102a@gmail.com> Resent-From: Xue Fuqiao Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13643 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 13643@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13643.136023860511162 (code B ref 13643); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 13643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2013 12:03:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40874 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3QCJ-0002tx-NZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 07:03:24 -0500 Received: from mail-da0-f45.google.com ([209.85.210.45]:52061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3QCH-0002tp-B2 for 13643@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 07:03:22 -0500 Received: by mail-da0-f45.google.com with SMTP id w4so1179863dam.32 for <13643@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:01:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ik4eyKPBGIRSuODL1dFzr3B6QDicT0AY9dzrwYRY0Sk=; b=aBbTaS7yTpnTGnSu/1cDVyfdNBMw4xKvel+8WGy7R0LN6DhWhAvwEeM9D8br+oOE/3 GqDctQyQrlNkvsOQN+Ur+tmreeD/Czr/7UsSUKZaUo1SjqxEXcweKNW9chvsffpGTKLJ Xf4lMxtIiZiXvO5InnNsVhNpB0Ff06tOP+Qv2FzEyOhIfQbOVQ71TCcqxbm1DHzddAyY 8eIkzDgd/i9xCBKw8krdDyaX8wzK2+Jw5HbQUbtcfI/wZP0beE17uwQmC8UgOJzd5MQ+ VSmlU71AoC5twoxJyMDZrCWHshYK3/85zXDfBQHGxxGZoM96yqnM0TSiPJWzM/kUbgel 7BHg== X-Received: by 10.66.82.200 with SMTP id k8mr5141603pay.56.1360238518938; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from Emacs ([49.118.21.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t4sm4217430pax.0.2013.02.07.04.01.56 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 04:01:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:01:52 +0800 From: Xue Fuqiao Message-Id: <20130207200152.39e985cec82189b3aa5f3481@gmail.com> Organization: The Church of Emacs X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) The phrase "symbolic prefix" is only in: (elisp) Active Keymaps (elisp) Searching Keymaps (gnus) Symbolic Prefixes It isn't explained in the first and second node. And the third node is unrelated to the first two nodes. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:11:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13643: About symbolic prefix Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13643 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xue Fuqiao Cc: 13643@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13643.136024707627120 (code B ref 13643); Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 13643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2013 14:24:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41022 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3SOy-00073N-6F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:24:36 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:18386) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3SOw-00073E-Ry for 13643@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:24:35 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpZnt/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpZnt/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="676126" Received: from 69-165-153-237.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.153.237]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 07 Feb 2013 09:23:12 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2FA9B592BB; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 09:23:12 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <20130207134335.58b95462f1ec5318faa9102a@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:23:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20130207134335.58b95462f1ec5318faa9102a@gmail.com> (Xue Fuqiao's message of "Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:43:35 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) > In (info "(elisp) Active Keymaps"): > When the key sequence starts with a mouse event (optionally preceded > by a symbolic prefix), the active keymaps are determined based on the > position in that event. > I don't know what the "symbolic prefix" means here (maybe it means > something like `down-mouse-1'), but I think it doesn't mean the > `gnus-symbolic-argument' in Gnus. It is confusing here. Good question. Maybe this is referring to the case where the mouse event is on a side element, in which case the key sequence starts with `header-line', `mode-line', `left-fringe', ... Stefan From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:11:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13643: About symbolic prefix Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13643 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Xue Fuqiao , 13643@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13643.136028664729223 (code B ref 13643); Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 13643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2013 01:24:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42681 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3chC-0007bI-Ny for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:24:07 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54611) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3chA-0007bA-3U for 13643@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:24:05 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3ch9-0007fb-0C; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:24:03 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <20130207134335.58b95462f1ec5318faa9102a@gmail.com> X-Spook: Verisign ISEC Baranyi cybercash kibo CESID cypherpunk Reno X-Ran: 4`iG_qK"^IrS=#-*`&V\Ek\nt(+E"geO\o"Iz7$s?`WpMhJXk:u4xIQs:9YLb:M5<(3$e) X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:24:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:23:12 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Stefan Monnier wrote: >> In (info "(elisp) Active Keymaps"): >> When the key sequence starts with a mouse event (optionally preceded >> by a symbolic prefix), the active keymaps are determined based on the [...] > Maybe this is referring to the case where the mouse event is on a side > element, in which case the key sequence starts with `header-line', > `mode-line', `left-fringe', ... I think the least confusing thing is simply to remove the clause in the brackets. It doesn't add anything useful. A mouse event is a mouse event. From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:11:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13643: About symbolic prefix Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13643 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: Xue Fuqiao , 13643@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13643-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13643.136033217527657 (code B ref 13643); Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 13643) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2013 14:02:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3oXX-0007C1-4K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:02:55 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:33855) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3oXU-0007Bt-Us for 13643@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:02:53 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpZnt/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpZnt/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="764915" Received: from 69-165-153-237.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.153.237]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 08 Feb 2013 09:02:48 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 33B5859042; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:02:47 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <20130207134335.58b95462f1ec5318faa9102a@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:02:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:24:02 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) >>> In (info "(elisp) Active Keymaps"): >>> When the key sequence starts with a mouse event (optionally preceded >>> by a symbolic prefix), the active keymaps are determined based on the > [...] >> Maybe this is referring to the case where the mouse event is on a side >> element, in which case the key sequence starts with `header-line', >> `mode-line', `left-fringe', ... > I think the least confusing thing is simply to remove the clause in the > brackets. It doesn't add anything useful. A mouse event is a mouse > event. Sounds fine to me, Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 08 12:15:27 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2013 17:15:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44534 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3rXq-0003WU-K5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 12:15:27 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U3rXo-0003WM-7J for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 12:15:24 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U3rXk-00051f-0t for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 12:15:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 12:15:20 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 13643 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) close 13643 24.2.94