From unknown Sat Sep 06 13:45:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13568: 24.3.50; wishlist: add a `group-p' predicate Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 13568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 13568@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135931114711144 (code B ref -1); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:26:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2013 18:25:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51620 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TzWvK-0002tf-14 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:25:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60556) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TzWvF-0002tW-3H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:25:43 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TzWuo-0003wu-KN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:25:20 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:59154) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TzWuo-0003wf-FQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:25:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TzWul-0001ce-Dj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:25:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TzWui-0003sC-Mv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:25:11 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:47860) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TzWui-0003qK-GN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:25:08 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r0RIP6Mu007181 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:25:06 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0RIP5FU023935 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:25:05 GMT Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0RIP5Np009801 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:25:05 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:25:05 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:24:56 -0800 Message-ID: <0138B6575E46439E9E33E54D07D2C103@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac38u5uJsIu4CUkARGK/bBCUrarjYg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) Subject line says it all: Please add a predicate `group-p' that returns non-nil if its symbol arg is a loaded customize group (i.e. defined by a defgroup that has been evaluated). Not sure what the code might be for an appropriate definition. I thought that perhaps (rassq SYMBOL custom-current-group-alist) could be used as the test, but apparently not. When there is more than one defgroup in a file, only the last group gets recorded for it in `custom-current-group-alist'. (Is that a bug or intended?) Perhaps one of the following tests, pulled from `customize-read-group', would be appropriate? I'm not sure what the second one is about. `group-p' should return non-nil only for a symbol defined in a defgroup that has been evaluated (e.g. loaded). 1. (get symbol 'custom-group) 2. (or (and (get symbol 'custom-loads) (not (get symbol 'custom-autoload))) (get symbol 'custom-group)) But I see that a defgroup for a group that has not (yet) had any faces or options (or subgroups) added to it is not reflected in `custom-group', so I guess that test is not appropriate either. E.g., if a (defgroup foo...) is evaluated but it gets no members, then (get 'foo 'custom-group) returns nil. So I'm not sure what the proper definition might be. That in itself (showing my ignorance/confusion) is one argument for having a `group-p' predicate. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2013-01-25 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 111604 eliz@gnu.org-20130125143821-1ykj7ia1qjojjjnp Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib' From unknown Sat Sep 06 13:45:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13568: 24.3.50; wishlist: add a `group-p' predicate Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 22:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 13568@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13568.146188122711924 (code B ref 13568); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 22:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 13568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 22:07:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53632 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avu5S-00036F-MI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:07:06 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38228) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avu5R-000368-9y for 13568@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:07:05 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avu5K-0000u1-Sb; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 00:07:04 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <0138B6575E46439E9E33E54D07D2C103@us.oracle.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 00:06:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <0138B6575E46439E9E33E54D07D2C103@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 27 Jan 2013 10:24:56 -0800") Message-ID: <87bn4t4ccd.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > Subject line says it all: Please add a predicate `group-p' that > returns non-nil if its symbol arg is a loaded customize group > (i.e. defined by a defgroup that has been evaluated). What the use case for such a function? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Sep 06 13:45:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13568: 24.3.50; wishlist: add a `group-p' predicate Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 13568@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13568.146194467627559 (code B ref 13568); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 13568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 15:44:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55516 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awAaq-0007AP-I7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 11:44:36 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:34092) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awAao-0007AD-Lz for 13568@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 11:44:35 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3TFiSIL007666 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:44:28 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3TFiRvQ003249 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:44:28 GMT Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3TFiPO8019326; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:44:27 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:44:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <0138B6575E46439E9E33E54D07D2C103@us.oracle.com> <87bn4t4ccd.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87bn4t4ccd.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > Subject line says it all: Please add a predicate `group-p' that > > returns non-nil if its symbol arg is a loaded customize group > > (i.e. defined by a defgroup that has been evaluated). >=20 > What the use case for such a function? Uh, to test whether a given symbol corresponds to "a loaded customize group (i.e. defined by a defgroup that has been evaluated)." Clearly (see the rest of the bug report), it is not clear how Lisp code can test for this. Property `custom-group' is not the answer. Nor, apparently, is a combination of properties `custom-group' and `custom-autoload'. How to test for this condition? From unknown Sat Sep 06 13:45:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13568: 24.3.50; wishlist: add a `group-p' predicate Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 13568@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13568.146194476331026 (code B ref 13568); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 13568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 15:46:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55520 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awAcE-00084F-TE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 11:46:03 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45345) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awAcD-00081M-0K for 13568@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 11:46:01 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awAcA-0007Eg-DQ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:46:00 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <0138B6575E46439E9E33E54D07D2C103@us.oracle.com> <87bn4t4ccd.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:45:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:44:22 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87shy41kqx.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: >> > Subject line says it all: Please add a predicate `group-p' that >> > returns non-nil if its symbol arg is a loaded customize group >> > (i.e. defined by a defgroup that has been evaluated). >> >> What the use case for such a function? > > Uh, to test whether a given symbol corresponds to "a loaded > customize group (i.e. defined by a defgroup that has been > evaluated)." And what's the use case for that? Why do you want to know whether a symbol has been used as a customization group? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Sep 06 13:45:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13568: 24.3.50; wishlist: add a `group-p' predicate Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 13568@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13568.14619535088093 (code B ref 13568); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 13568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 18:11:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awCtI-00026T-HP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:11:48 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:48473) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awCtH-00026H-Av for 13568@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:11:47 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3TIBfsG003314 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:11:41 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3TIBf46014438 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:11:41 GMT Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3TIBccc031765; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:11:40 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 11:11:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <0138B6575E46439E9E33E54D07D2C103@us.oracle.com> <87bn4t4ccd.fsf@gnus.org> <87shy41kqx.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87shy41kqx.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > >> > Subject line says it all: Please add a predicate `group-p' that > >> > returns non-nil if its symbol arg is a loaded customize group > >> > (i.e. defined by a defgroup that has been evaluated). > >> > >> What the use case for such a function? > > > > Uh, to test whether a given symbol corresponds to "a loaded > > customize group (i.e. defined by a defgroup that has been > > evaluated)." >=20 > And what's the use case for that? Why do you want to know whether a > symbol has been used as a customization group? Why wouldn't I? A custom group is a thing. If you have code that uses that thing (and that is what the thing is for) then it is reasonable to be able to test for that thingness. From unknown Sat Sep 06 13:45:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13568: 24.3.50; wishlist: add a `group-p' predicate Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13568 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 13568@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13568-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13568.146195456116087 (code B ref 13568); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 13568) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 18:29:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awDAH-0004BP-AY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:29:21 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:47981) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awDAG-0004BG-0l for 13568@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:29:20 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awDAD-0000s2-Hl; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:29:19 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <0138B6575E46439E9E33E54D07D2C103@us.oracle.com> <87bn4t4ccd.fsf@gnus.org> <87shy41kqx.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:29:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 29 Apr 2016 11:11:34 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <877ffgxo8y.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > Why wouldn't I? A custom group is a thing. If you have > code that uses that thing (and that is what the thing > is for) then it is reasonable to be able to test for > that thingness. So you have no use case? Closing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 29 14:29:31 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 18:29:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55770 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awDAR-0004Bp-Hd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:29:31 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:47988) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awDAP-0004Bg-CU for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:29:29 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awDAN-0000sI-7c for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:29:28 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:29:26 +0200 Message-Id: <8737q4xo8p.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13568 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 13568 wontfix close 13568