From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 26 12:45:07 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2013 17:45:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50625 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz9oP-0007Tr-LI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:45:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42752) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz9oM-0007TO-6f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:45:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz9o5-0002tj-Tz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:44:47 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:35834) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz9o5-0002tf-Qr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:44:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54114) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz9o4-0007Tw-Qw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:44:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz9o3-0002sX-Ok for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:44:44 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:23632) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tz9o3-0002sM-Hz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:44:43 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r0QHifDH011300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:44:42 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0QHiel5003973 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:44:41 GMT Received: from abhmt104.oracle.com (abhmt104.oracle.com [141.146.116.56]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0QHieXN027024 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:44:40 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:44:40 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.3.50; mysterious, uncalled-for point movement when exit minibuffer Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:44:33 -0800 Message-ID: <2F6EC096580F4DD2BD7E468562DFA934@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac377M0sDNy4o53lR5KbbPySRQBQ3A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Sorry, but I cannot give a recipe to repro this yet. Somehow, it is suddenly the case (with my setup, but only with recent builds, perhaps just the latest I have, 2013-01-25 - that's where I noticed it) that with even something as simple as M-x forward-char or M-: (forward-char), and even if I use C-g to cancel such (e.g., just M-x C-g), point gets moved to another location. I need not hit C-g - the same thing happens with M-x forward-char RET. The location seems unpredictable, and I don't know what makes it change. It is not the mark, in any case. And this happens even with Icicle mode turned off (I mention that because Icicles has its own M-x and M-:.) And it doesn't matter how I set point - mouse-1 or C-f etc. And it does not matter whether I set mark at point. Something makes exiting from the minibuffer warp point to another location. The target location stays the same, but something (dunno what) can make it change to a different mysterious location. If I scroll the window so the mysterious target location is off window, the cursor still gets warped to it (and thus the window is scrolled to show it). HTH. Sorry I don't have more info about this yet. Anyone else seeing anything like this? In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2013-01-25 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 111604 eliz@gnu.org-20130125143821-1ykj7ia1qjojjjnp Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 26 13:14:01 2013 Received: (at 13559) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2013 18:14:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50635 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TzAGP-00087d-80 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:14:01 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:35727) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TzAGM-00087S-MM for 13559@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:13:59 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MH800500VV1AW00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 13559@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:13:42 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MH8005QQVYT5M70@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:13:42 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:13:52 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13559: 24.3.50; mysterious, uncalled-for point movement when exit minibuffer In-reply-to: <2F6EC096580F4DD2BD7E468562DFA934@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83bocbke1r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <2F6EC096580F4DD2BD7E468562DFA934@us.oracle.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:44:33 -0800 > > Sorry, but I cannot give a recipe to repro this yet. > > Somehow, it is suddenly the case (with my setup, but only with > recent builds, perhaps just the latest I have, 2013-01-25 - > that's where I noticed it) that with even something as simple as > M-x forward-char or M-: (forward-char), and even if I use C-g to > cancel such (e.g., just M-x C-g), point gets moved to another > location. I need not hit C-g - the same thing happens with > M-x forward-char RET. 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I need not hit C-g - the same thing happens with > M-x forward-char RET. Can you try reproducing this from "emacs -Q"? I'm guessing that some redisplay change made lately goofed, but it's hard to look for it without a recipe. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 26 13:18:47 2013 Received: (at 13559) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2013 18:18:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50639 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TzAKz-0008Ep-SR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:18:46 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:51131) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TzAKw-0008Eh-SR for 13559@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:18:44 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r0QIIQB5031930 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:18:27 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0QIIPZW002789 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 26 Jan 2013 18:18:26 GMT Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0QIIPuL005563; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:18:25 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:18:25 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <2F6EC096580F4DD2BD7E468562DFA934@us.oracle.com> <83bocbke1r.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#13559: 24.3.50; mysterious, uncalled-for point movement when exit minibuffer Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:18:18 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <83bocbke1r.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac378OEMLMXYTmMmS52SCWopSseDqwAADc2A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13559 Cc: 13559@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > > Sorry, but I cannot give a recipe to repro this yet. > > > > Somehow, it is suddenly the case (with my setup, but only with > > recent builds, perhaps just the latest I have, 2013-01-25 - > > that's where I noticed it) that with even something as simple as > > M-x forward-char or M-: (forward-char), and even if I use C-g to > > cancel such (e.g., just M-x C-g), point gets moved to another > > location. I need not hit C-g - the same thing happens with > > M-x forward-char RET. > > Can you try reproducing this from "emacs -Q"? No, I don't think so. Not until I find out more about it. If & when I do, I'll let you know. > I'm guessing that some redisplay change made lately goofed, but it's > hard to look for it without a recipe. With luck more people will run into it and we'll learn more. Sooner or later we will perhaps be able to repro it simply, from emacs -Q. For now, the bug report is just a heads-up. Perhaps it will help as is, ringing a bell for someone who made recent changes. So far, I've seen this in a build from 1/25, but not yet in a build from 1/22. (Doesn't mean I won't encounter it with 1/22, just saying that's what I've seen so far.) 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[59.189.178.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q4sm59348883paz.20.2013.02.08.20.53.22 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Feb 2013 20:53:24 -0800 (PST) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: tags 13559 + unreproducible Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 12:53:24 +0800 Message-ID: <8738x6ytob.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 13559 + unreproducible thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 23:46:45 2014 Received: (at 13559) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 04:46:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33464 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCilY-0006By-SF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:46:45 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39430) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCilW-0006Bn-Pb for 13559@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:46:43 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCilI-0006AE-CC; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:46:28 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#13559: 24.3.50; mysterious, uncalled-for point movement when exit minibuffer References: <2F6EC096580F4DD2BD7E468562DFA934@us.oracle.com> <83bocbke1r.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:45:15 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:18:18 -0800") Message-ID: <871tzbbmp0.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCilI-0006AE-CC X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392612388.89769@Zk+V11NzErlStqmJdaEaeQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13559 Cc: 13559@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Eli Zaretskii' X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: >> > Sorry, but I cannot give a recipe to repro this yet. >> > >> > Somehow, it is suddenly the case (with my setup, but only with >> > recent builds, perhaps just the latest I have, 2013-01-25 - >> > that's where I noticed it) that with even something as simple as >> > M-x forward-char or M-: (forward-char), and even if I use C-g to >> > cancel such (e.g., just M-x C-g), point gets moved to another >> > location. I need not hit C-g - the same thing happens with >> > M-x forward-char RET. >> >> Can you try reproducing this from "emacs -Q"? > > No, I don't think so. Not until I find out more about it. If & when I do, I'll > let you know. That was a year ago, so I'm closing this bug. Please reopen if further progress can be made. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 09 23:46:49 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 04:46:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33467 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCild-0006CE-77 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:46:49 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39437) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCilb-0006C7-Pq for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:46:48 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCilN-0006AN-Fz for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:46:33 +0100 Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:45:20 -0800 Message-Id: <87zjlza84f.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13559 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCilN-0006AN-Fz X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392612394.09033@RanO1lRttqyjtCDA1vPD+g X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 13559 From unknown Wed Sep 10 09:37:48 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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