From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 20 05:36:27 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2013 10:36:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41075 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwsGJ-000499-Ad for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:36:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59946) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwsGF-000491-MG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:36:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwsFJ-0004de-0p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:35:26 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:44870) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwsFI-0004da-U5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:35:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43070) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwsFH-0002lC-LZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:35:24 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwsFG-0004dO-CU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:35:23 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:30488) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwsFG-0004dI-52 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:35:22 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id r0KAZJm9003665 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 10:35:20 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0KAZIFk014492 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 10:35:19 GMT Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0KAZISH027728 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:35:18 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:35:18 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function' Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:35:10 -0800 Message-ID: <3703816BC57C4CA099762841DDD14BC4@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac32+dING94zKqM5Rj2jPpAKDOYqsA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) I really hate to open this can of worms again. It took so long for the fiddling with bug report mailing code to die down over the last several years. I thought it was finally fixed so users would not be bothered with the questions you added over this period. Alas, apparently not so. I just discovered that if you have customized `send-mail-function' to `mailclient-send-it', but you load that customization after loading `emacsbug.el[c]' (for whatever reason), then your user setting is simply ignored. Emacs goes ahead, in spite of your customization, and runs you through the gauntlet of questions. It is apparently mistakenly convinced that you have not configured mail. IOW, the interrogation begins again: Emacs is about to send an email message, but it has not been configured for sending email. To tell Emacs how to send email: - Type `mail client' to start your default email client and pass it the message text. - Type `smtp' to send mail directly to an "outgoing mail" server. (Emacs may prompt you for SMTP settings). Emacs will record your selection and will use it thereafter. To change it later, customize the option `send-mail-function'. Simply loading emacsbug.el should not invalidate a (custom-set-variables '(send-mail-function (quote mailclient-send-it) t) in your ~/.emacs or `custom-file' that is evaluated after loading emacsbug.el. To reproduce, it should be enough to put this in your .emacs: (require 'emacsbug) (custom-set-variables '(send-mail-function (quote mailclient-send-it) t)) Reverse the sexp order and there is no problem. Normally, loading a library, even one with a defcustom, does not override a user customization setting, even if that setting is evaluated after loading the library. Apparently, emacsbug.el invalidates this principle. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2013-01-18 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 111548 sdl.web@gmail.com-20130118182218-6ywd47qsbnow6nsg Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 02:08:37 2014 Received: (at 13506) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 07:08:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33824 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCkyp-0000Ph-99 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:08:36 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:41782) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCkym-0000PZ-V5 for 13506@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:08:33 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCkyZ-0008KS-1P; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:08:19 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function' References: <3703816BC57C4CA099762841DDD14BC4@us.oracle.com> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:07:05 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3703816BC57C4CA099762841DDD14BC4@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:35:10 -0800") Message-ID: <8738jr4fae.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCkyZ-0008KS-1P X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392620899.52365@g4p5vcG8kBWqcA1spXEo3w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13506 Cc: 13506@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > I really hate to open this can of worms again. It took so long for > the fiddling with bug report mailing code to die down over the last > several years. I thought it was finally fixed so users would not > be bothered with the questions you added over this period. > Alas, apparently not so. > > I just discovered that if you have customized `send-mail-function' to > `mailclient-send-it', but you load that customization after loading > `emacsbug.el[c]' (for whatever reason), then your user setting is simply > ignored. `message-send-mail-function' is the variable to customize here, I think? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 12:49:00 2014 Received: (at 13506) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 17:49:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuyZ-0004wI-Dn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:48:59 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:37195) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCuyX-0004w4-CQ for 13506@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:48:57 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1AHmoJ1001461 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:48:51 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AHmnRo026359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:48:49 GMT Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AHmnnd016274; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:48:49 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:48:48 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function' References: <3703816BC57C4CA099762841DDD14BC4@us.oracle.com> <8738jr4fae.fsf@building.gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <8738jr4fae.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13506 Cc: 13506@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > > I just discovered that if you have customized `send-mail-function' > > to `mailclient-send-it', but you load that customization after > > loading `emacsbug.el[c]' (for whatever reason), then your user > > setting is simply ignored. >=20 > `message-send-mail-function' is the variable to customize here, I > think? Why? And why is that relevant, even if true? ,---- | send-mail-function is a variable defined in `sendmail.el'. | Its value is mailclient-send-it | Original value was sendmail-query-once |=20 | This variable can be risky when used as a file-local variable. |=20 | Documentation: | Function to call to send the current buffer as mail. | The headers should be delimited by a line which is | not a valid RFC822 header or continuation line, | that matches the variable `mail-header-separator'. | This is used by the default mail-sending commands. See also | `message-send-mail-function' for use with the Message package. |=20 | You can customize this variable. |=20 | This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in | version 24.1 of Emacs. `---- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 13:14:58 2014 Received: (at 13506) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 18:14:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41649 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCvNi-0005bT-LR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:14:58 -0500 Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:54766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCvNg-0005b7-5p for 13506@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:14:57 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0S00300LB1N000@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 13506@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:13:56 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0S00171LB7GB20@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:13:56 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 20:14:35 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function' In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83sirqu96c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3703816BC57C4CA099762841DDD14BC4@us.oracle.com> <8738jr4fae.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13506 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 13506@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:48:48 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 13506@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I just discovered that if you have customized `send-mail-function' > > > to `mailclient-send-it', but you load that customization after > > > loading `emacsbug.el[c]' (for whatever reason), then your user > > > setting is simply ignored. > > > > `message-send-mail-function' is the variable to customize here, I > > think? > > Why? And why is that relevant, even if true? Because defcustoms don't get overwritten when you re-load their source package? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 14:04:39 2014 Received: (at 13506) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 19:04:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41755 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCw9m-000386-Ph for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:04:39 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:45603) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCw9l-00037u-Da for 13506@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:04:37 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1AJ4U5v030581 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:04:31 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AJ4TaK019988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:04:30 GMT Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AJ4TNM014736; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:04:29 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <020578a2-27ca-47fb-8cce-0f6306ac2c5e@default> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Subject: RE: bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function' References: <<3703816BC57C4CA099762841DDD14BC4@us.oracle.com>> <<8738jr4fae.fsf@building.gnus.org>> <> <<83sirqu96c.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<83sirqu96c.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13506 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 13506@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > > > > I just discovered that if you have customized `send-mail- > > > > function' to `mailclient-send-it', but you load that customization > > > > after loading `emacsbug.el[c]' (for whatever reason), then your > > > > user setting is simply ignored. > > > > > > `message-send-mail-function' is the variable to customize here, > I > > > think? > > > > Why? And why is that relevant, even if true? >=20 > Because defcustoms don't get overwritten when you re-load their > source package? Huh? You seem to be making less and less sense, Lars. If you customize the option AFTER loading emacsbug.el then your customization is ignored. That is the bug I reported. Dunno what you are talking about. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 14:06:00 2014 Received: (at 13506) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 19:06:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41759 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCwB5-0003AT-Ss for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:06:00 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:31712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCwB3-0003AE-OM for 13506@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:05:58 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1AJ5p3E018784 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:05:52 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AJ5mtR026610 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:05:50 GMT Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AJ5mvq021292; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:05:48 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4fdc4a2a-153a-4fa9-9da3-cd70e9b11450@default> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:05:47 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Drew Adams , Eli Zaretskii Subject: RE: bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function' References: <<3703816BC57C4CA099762841DDD14BC4@us.oracle.com>> <<8738jr4fae.fsf@building.gnus.org>> <> <<83sirqu96c.fsf@gnu.org>> <020578a2-27ca-47fb-8cce-0f6306ac2c5e@default> In-Reply-To: <020578a2-27ca-47fb-8cce-0f6306ac2c5e@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13506 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 13506@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > Huh? You seem to be making less and less sense, Lars. Apologies to Lars. I was replying to Eli here. > If you customize the option AFTER loading emacsbug.el then your > customization is ignored. That is the bug I reported. Dunno > what you are talking about. I don't follow you, Eli. Please elaborate. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 14:13:49 2014 Received: (at 13506) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 19:13:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41775 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCwIb-0003MD-Ss for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:13:49 -0500 Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:59188) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCwIW-0003Lt-35 for 13506@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:13:44 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N0S00I00NMYWC00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 13506@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:14:36 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N0S00BWHO4BOA90@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:14:36 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:13:19 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function' In-reply-to: <4fdc4a2a-153a-4fa9-9da3-cd70e9b11450@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83lhxiu6gg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3703816BC57C4CA099762841DDD14BC4@us.oracle.com> <8738jr4fae.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83sirqu96c.fsf@gnu.org> <020578a2-27ca-47fb-8cce-0f6306ac2c5e@default> <4fdc4a2a-153a-4fa9-9da3-cd70e9b11450@default> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13506 Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 13506@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:05:47 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 13506@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Huh? You seem to be making less and less sense, Lars. > > Apologies to Lars. I was replying to Eli here. > > > If you customize the option AFTER loading emacsbug.el then your > > customization is ignored. That is the bug I reported. Dunno > > what you are talking about. > > I don't follow you, Eli. Please elaborate. Perhaps you should show a complete recipe, including the details of "customize" -- you surely know that this term is used in at least 2 different senses in Emacs. So: how to reproduce this bug, starting from "emacs -Q", step by step? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 17:59:12 2016 Received: (at 13506) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 21:59:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avtxn-0002tI-Pl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:59:11 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38154) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avtxk-0002t7-Sk for 13506@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:59:10 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avtxh-0000oE-AG; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 23:59:07 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function' References: <3703816BC57C4CA099762841DDD14BC4@us.oracle.com> <8738jr4fae.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83sirqu96c.fsf@gnu.org> <020578a2-27ca-47fb-8cce-0f6306ac2c5e@default> <4fdc4a2a-153a-4fa9-9da3-cd70e9b11450@default> <83lhxiu6gg.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 23:59:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83lhxiu6gg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:13:19 +0200") Message-ID: <87h9el4cpi.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13506 Cc: 13506@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Perhaps you should show a complete recipe, including the details of > "customize" -- you surely know that this term is used in at least 2 > different senses in Emacs. > > So: how to reproduce this bug, starting from "emacs -Q", step by step? More information was requested, but no response was given within a few years, so I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, please reopen this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 17:59:17 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 21:59:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53620 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avtxt-0002tZ-1S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:59:17 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avtxr-0002tS-CJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:59:15 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avtxp-0000oO-7D for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 23:59:14 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 23:59:12 +0200 Message-Id: <87fuu54cpb.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13506 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 13506 From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:13:09 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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