From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:53:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 13473 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135842112520623 (code B ref -1); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:13:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2013 11:12:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36272 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnO8-0005MZ-M2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:12:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33364) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnO5-0005MG-Vh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:12:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnNN-0007s5-MV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:11:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:49848) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnNN-0007s0-JL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:11:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44704) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnNH-0004Ov-CP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:11:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnN1-0007oh-Ej for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:11:11 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:61832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnN1-0007oQ-4f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:10:55 -0500 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.17]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MPsKa-1TqpYK0ixO-004y0k for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:10:54 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Jan 2013 11:10:53 -0000 Received: from i59F56905.versanet.de (EHLO rosalinde.fritz.box) [89.245.105.5] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 17 Jan 2013 12:10:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/IcRItAKvI9S28QPXLP8KmXKO2BtFdBapDCX4C4c zCfB/WUkRioCJz From: Stephen Berman Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:10:52 +0100 Message-ID: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) The (elisp) Display Tables node neglects to mention that changing the vertical-border slot does not work on graphical terminals (compare e.g. (set-display-table-slot standard-display-table 'vertical-border (make-glyph-code 8214)) on graphical and non-graphics-capable displays) (whereas it does mention this difference for the truncation and wrap slots). === modified file 'doc/lispref/display.texi' *** doc/lispref/display.texi 2013-01-05 21:18:01 +0000 --- doc/lispref/display.texi 2013-01-17 10:22:19 +0000 *************** *** 5904,5910 **** The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, ! a scroll bar separates the two windows. @end table For example, here is how to construct a display table that mimics --- 5904,5912 ---- The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, ! a scroll bar separates the two windows. On graphical terminals, Emacs ! uses a thin line to indicate the border, so the display table has no ! effect. @end table For example, here is how to construct a display table that mimics In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.4 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.4) of 2013-01-17 on rosalinde Bzr revision: 111542 michael.albinus@gmx.de-20130117090647-lb9mkbk6n8q142w5 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11203000 System Description: openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:53:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug Resent-From: Noam Postavsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 01:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13473 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13473-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13473.15185711314195 (code B ref 13473); Wed, 14 Feb 2018 01:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 13473) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2018 01:18:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41973 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ellil-00015b-D9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:18:51 -0500 Received: from mail-it0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]:39745) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ellij-00015P-PV for 13473@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:18:50 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l187so3451175ith.4 for <13473@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:18:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=COjhvNRuTFVgOOW6XJ7Lh2hneQp1HVz1RdEPmFUTg04=; b=Ou2HOjdmeVXc6LMwXx4nmV3wm8GT4Lu6TOKEeCha9AmdwbrMDOMI/V38SH4bQ3yF6q ySpJVXdp6pmUSjUxAOdat6FATquOXpmR96HMAsmfIns+szs++C0YiMmQrUKPfSns6q+Y e9JJdG2Ec3MFlhkyj9QTZOrM7+eKyqERuGMgVra4SlabcXNnFXiPLtBVajfUIKC5imSS muGHIY73UqSLdDcWzWL7n/DuDWyblkUiphbB5Vaeh+W22a0RHr1B0DZDRsiI6Upp4J9v zCLrABSSbWyb3qLbrhhqD4Hb8xg6/R8AYDwp27XoQKfNMqHbE+7l8zV9cfizvuCQZibc IIrg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=COjhvNRuTFVgOOW6XJ7Lh2hneQp1HVz1RdEPmFUTg04=; b=GAMDq5UIpn1ev2pc7BO+4hmrUC6z9WIXedhWM+aAw646ncwezpLxZmoybNWNdKY8ki HY4WbkTE+yKYTeIk50xuuS95XxnWdVQX1m3TAlqfk7OrbFPlNyKVCMUajBL+i7w8hRK7 AHP+L4HwyxFjG9LdSMBRzVBGsaSt7a0emlu78bIoHdkrx15epjsNsD/3SYKG8+cPCAxv vD2nWWXAoKNzBKdPUWt918vyYQzOksAm5feU79eBf+Cqam0GyFCsk8e7cpCqh6PJcgXO bsP9uYmGoMCT3wdlwemUEXHBJscb7pvvU5V4DzOUB7BGod8gspzYQWJ+WU67DohDRKzo KqRA== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPBGrNqVRzP6NsLDmTpo71m5JJiwOlfGgqRloMIqd3C0oR8aSr4g rP/iFWD+TIK7lpvNNwjad93/+A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226nF84nmp8YFtzKZdV0x4jq4SELtx7iSq9RLBpZYHU5X2L6YeCVroEpX6ZbdyTZyxm4Rwp0xQ== X-Received: by 10.36.40.137 with SMTP id h131mr4081338ith.118.1518571124049; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebian (cbl-45-2-119-34.yyz.frontiernetworks.ca. [45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d19sm11746377ioe.54.2018.02.13.17.18.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:18:43 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky References: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:18:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> (Stephen Berman's message of "Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:10:52 +0100") Message-ID: <878tbw9xn2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) Stephen Berman writes: > The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the > default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only > when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, > ! a scroll bar separates the two windows. On graphical terminals, Emacs > ! uses a thin line to indicate the border, so the display table has no > ! effect. > @end table If it's only effective on a tty display, then is the scroll bar reference irrelevant? AFAIK, there are never scroll bars on a tty display anyway. The change which introduced the text about the scroll bars is [1: 8241495da5]. It's old, has no log message, and contains many changes, so it's unclear why that particular text was added. [1: 8241495da5]: 1999-09-17 06:59:04 +0000 *** empty log message *** https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=8241495da57ca0efed1b2e86ff693b5614e0aebd From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:53:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13473 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Noam Postavsky Cc: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13473-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13473.151861521119355 (code B ref 13473); Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 13473) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2018 13:33:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42250 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1elxBi-000527-RW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 08:33:31 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:54511) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1elxBg-00051s-CH for 13473@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 08:33:28 -0500 Received: from rosalinde ([83.135.19.149]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mh9cj-1f8HQE3O8P-00MJHK; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:33:20 +0100 From: Stephen Berman References: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <878tbw9xn2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:33:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878tbw9xn2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:18:41 -0500") Message-ID: <87inazk869.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GWfT7NRW5/VsB6z7G6zFJjOIys9W+NmwMkQD5TKHquKjuINkOWU vQ9JueQ2P2Ieut2muuu75dV4dVaOzejDq0xkppdOtGYBhwlroEFhF1nOEbimXi/LyKafKjh OCIEgnjyM53GXZvk/WcIf7bKoZW0xxUS/8Eu8tfuDzxWPthiA4lqzRLFfpDDVWANzMqA6+q neYJw37NW5wCiyhBLY6Bg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:xdcB+7+1GP8=:wf9CTQGDBeejnZm0Ra0ecL GMUBs/dLeW6oTBRkFgAkogTyyVHYorP11XeJn0fUVkWaI6gTYyRCk92dEBZqIDBRPCb8AgFCt 0FaL0L5CbwhQqbkHTTSC+MoSoS/9fOkn4Iggez0k7BH19yJzztoxWX62NVCqylKA42jZ3id+v 5W7CKLuRguNwdhaFbGqg+742LJwMigg3p45bQnkLIlt3sFIH+/6hIDmZMVFOI1APwq0m+PaBf PhNUljZeQNUsY5Bi4KNHWHF4NZqGI6C6PowKrq5iWXWYkgysWxDWiaXc5dC/80M4iwGk3W8Ta 2m+DIrD6l0urVhzI/RyuVbPyVURAbQ2sLDZyDJQDBxwGK75gp+J3jKYoaQ3SZBt7TdblrTwpw b08wjBhhhahoTIUjDM0avF/C80Dwo/cAU89gHRi6obERRgHcPqicfTsOT3IRMGQiA8mpI7ar8 zEt5/ZznPOf2SiZKF2u13syBPAA4vbMy9s4iG3boVeYSka19LO4uuhhaBN0OaoxC/dQ71jz2J siWZvb+W/CWevLq08KSlfB9T6NN7hwn3H0L1/I6++5ValPM7RWHa0Fp0Xuy6E51gSBlx4zLh5 ZsGw8csrEKza1pBuulnHxbeGCVa0oOYHxw+RNwrE+g7MWktv298ZQ5xHa9j3btx/NJvOoW6Oy P+vcOG3AKZxNDP0FbnxRK/jayJp0QutpXukPY7EB83L7jRN6dl+u43ScdT7GVbTiRsrOgyVmP pABABU5KtmW5aar+j+3rL3F0WCpcCwObuRBdA8neNfjlFWM1SxAHkLR4kcwffbuz0AvKEmP9w T0uvIuQF4UoDD0XcMvNhIqqGRrA76kZRTFXc6oTOe2+sAntJP8= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:18:41 -0500 Noam Postavsky wrote: > Stephen Berman writes: > >> The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the >> default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only >> when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, >> ! a scroll bar separates the two windows. On graphical terminals, Emacs >> ! uses a thin line to indicate the border, so the display table has no >> ! effect. >> @end table > > If it's only effective on a tty display, then is the scroll bar > reference irrelevant? AFAIK, there are never scroll bars on a tty > display anyway. I think that's right, so the above is misleading (with or without the change). I guess it's sufficient just to say "On graphical terminals, this has no effect."[1] But maybe it would be helpful to say why it has no effect (even though you see it when you use a graphical display): diff --git a/doc/lispref/display.texi b/doc/lispref/display.texi index fbf943a08c..81084d7c06 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/display.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/display.texi @@ -6988,9 +6988,10 @@ Display Tables @item 5 The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the -default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only -when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, -a scroll bar separates the two windows. +default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. On graphical +terminals, this has no effect: if scroll bars are in use, a scroll bar +separates the two windows, and if scroll bars are not in use, the +border is a thin unbroken line. @end table For example, here is how to construct a display table that mimics Steve Berman Footnotes: [1] At least not on GTK+ builds. Someone should check other toolkits and non-toolkit builds (I currently can't readily do that), though it seems unlikely they would differ on this. From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:53:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13473 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman , Noam Postavsky Cc: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13473-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13473.15186243481163 (code B ref 13473); Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 13473) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2018 16:05:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43053 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1elzZ5-0000Ih-RJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:05:48 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:40199) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1elzZ3-0000IR-Is for 13473@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:05:46 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([46.125.250.8]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lngv5-1eJE3K1Hcl-00hyeQ; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 17:05:37 +0100 Message-ID: <5A845E49.1090904@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 17:05:29 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <878tbw9xn2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87inazk869.fsf@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <87inazk869.fsf@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:nChpcT+fKgCkFq7XWGI5sd9SCc+wLPhUIW3Moitl/dX6yECB3ev IqIHy+wLj/aA76qChIXs1IDP2KDUlyAj+rksPNyCXZasThfsMzNR3DjM4JymHqRIE1eiFmr nt+qua9D6oKv/HZPjY5MLEOwi795CuyWU9D/VVt4l/bvgtI9sciKmVuHcZvbXNN47f2QOyc l9f0F9ZsSYFbK5uvGSIYg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:EBM7WSMi1U8=:cnTizoVFUbreZRDfkNcorb JComYLvrippxl88ocyRymtzblUDWlKRyXsLXBewQSn9DGjra63eksheHge2lt4wZebpjd4p0V y/7CdOCoLX3olp7lxsECnS/EUs2A+bvlnb/PmYMhflftsM4WJMqjNNnyJDFVLeHeDyYe+spfD ooySsxoytPhKpkICe9pkmGWxhTPwO7x6momQecpBwQgLgx75uWjMjdXX4c0zVWVJxfB5VYEA+ bfjgA0/whqoMBNfOG4CcCATZhQtenRLREPhPLsvtv7+iN7RYEwV5dvchiV+Vc3gr4u75o4jQv /Hb4hAAbKFUVEItIsKaLzbw3HP8dovtYW39Rkgx9BIz+o0ETCdi69jsCRmlBYtI51pRufQX/z 78K9e0rOHTmEyvYy21vNH8d8Jftj2yu78KKEikkuhk9BGrrtl6PFNHn1UQMc5QZ2oUCJpSQAW hlDT1vKMg1i0ogva5XcDUtla3TiJRs0uElhBGE2QkKRuxSt7R9jRsvr9g8qWqvgPly95nFTgl Vxo5FwAOKYR/NKIxqLrDpLyOErBVvZCaDn1QzE6+EAeuGJkHtIcLz6YrvcLQtDj76cOibwHAz F/toJmrTAnUkUasVzovTbl4rzAyDeIKxcxPFx3sLRPRWqYWs8tBxnUk1gn9sq1BXe43H0258d 6UfP151sOBXKcm6Njl033/WQVEhzo2OY70BLDs6hVtmJw/HsI1Fchv68vWO8RtCmufh73NSQx ygsMMJQn1GPQHoN/JF5rB7GXN1AL9UaIUT2pdOV69RcPMXX0B5ya5pJm3VIZrB4iKyC6tfLgd G1FaB6HvsR2/6F0HX/xtG/PnR2Tqwsx1QA0s2rktoEfNFgZAcQ= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > @@ -6988,9 +6988,10 @@ Display Tables > > @item 5 > The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the > -default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only > -when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, > -a scroll bar separates the two windows. > +default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. On graphical > +terminals, this has no effect: if scroll bars are in use, a scroll bar > +separates the two windows, and if scroll bars are not in use, the > +border is a thin unbroken line. > @end table > > For example, here is how to construct a display table that mimics > I had prepared the below. Maybe we could reconcile them somehow. martin diff --git a/doc/lispref/display.texi b/doc/lispref/display.texi index 7bf03b8..f7170fe 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/display.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/display.texi @@ -4485,6 +4485,16 @@ Window Dividers window on a minibuffer-less frame. @end defun +When dividers and vertical scroll bars are both disabled for a +specific graphical frame, Emacs separates windows on that frame with +the help of a one-pixel wide "vertical border", see (@pxref{Scroll +Bars,,, emacs, The Emacs Manual}). When dividers are disabled but +vertical scroll bars are enabled on that frame, Emacs draws these +borders on mode lines only since the scroll bars are already +considered sufficent for separating the windows visually. In either +case, borders can be dragged with the mouse in order to resize the +adjacent windows. + @node Display Property @section The @code{display} Property From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:53:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13473 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 13473-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13473.151863158013265 (code B ref 13473); Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 13473) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2018 18:06:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43129 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1em1Rk-0003Rt-6r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:06:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1em1Rh-0003Re-3R for 13473@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:06:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1em1RY-0007kP-2I for 13473@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:06:12 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41821) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1em1RX-0007kH-UF; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:06:07 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1292 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1em1RX-0003HX-D1; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:06:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 20:06:01 +0200 Message-Id: <83zi4bwinq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87inazk869.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:33:18 +0100) References: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <878tbw9xn2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87inazk869.fsf@gmx.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Stephen Berman > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:33:18 +0100 > Cc: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:18:41 -0500 Noam Postavsky wrote: > > > Stephen Berman writes: > > > >> The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the > >> default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only > >> when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, > >> ! a scroll bar separates the two windows. On graphical terminals, Emacs > >> ! uses a thin line to indicate the border, so the display table has no > >> ! effect. > >> @end table > > > > If it's only effective on a tty display, then is the scroll bar > > reference irrelevant? AFAIK, there are never scroll bars on a tty > > display anyway. > > I think that's right, so the above is misleading (with or without the > change). Careful here: the same could be said about the truncation and continuation glyphs (and in fact, the manual actually did say that), but it's incorrect, because those glyphs _are_ used on GUI frames when the user disables the fringes. So any such "irrelevancy" must be qualified by "currently" etc., because no one prevents us from implementing a feature whereby they will be used. I will soon install the following: @item 5 The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This currently has effect only on text terminals; on graphical terminals, if vertical scroll bars are supported and in use, a scroll bar separates the two windows, and if there are no vertical scroll bars and no dividers (@pxref{Windows Dividers}), Emacs uses a thin line to indicate the border. From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:53:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13473 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 13473@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 13473-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13473.151863297115445 (code B ref 13473); Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 13473) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2018 18:29:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1em1oB-000413-F0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:29:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1em1oA-00040q-2r for 13473@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:29:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1em1o1-0007pK-GJ for 13473@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:29:24 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1em1o1-0007pF-Cd; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:29:21 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1307 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1em1o0-0007wD-QV; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:29:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 20:29:16 +0200 Message-Id: <83wozfwhkz.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5A845E49.1090904@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Wed, 14 Feb 2018 17:05:29 +0100) References: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <878tbw9xn2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87inazk869.fsf@gmx.net> <5A845E49.1090904@gmx.at> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 17:05:29 +0100 > From: martin rudalics > Cc: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org > > I had prepared the below. Maybe we could reconcile them somehow. Thanks, I just added a cross-reference to that node. From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:53:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13473 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 13473-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13473.151863321815868 (code B ref 13473); Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:34:01 +0000 Received: (at 13473) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2018 18:33:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43147 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1em1s9-00047q-0Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:33:38 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:59315) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1em1s6-00047c-P1 for 13473@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:33:35 -0500 Received: from rosalinde ([83.135.19.149]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lk81O-1eFSCy0q78-00cDi0; Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:33:26 +0100 From: Stephen Berman References: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> <878tbw9xn2.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87inazk869.fsf@gmx.net> <83zi4bwinq.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:33:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83zi4bwinq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 Feb 2018 20:06:01 +0200") Message-ID: <87a7wbjua2.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:9/SNs4lKqBI33uV9Mn7IAf+4TfMD1v3eZFJ1Ihj5YtjVgmCpuOH Fmr17UfjZOovSjUexjdEHsXZ4R4UQgLl0xVWRgsZY1PuMaoNAkE4GtORMYHMHtptXcDuJGl Fn5hqlkt2hI9PMp7Jz8IK1r6+I5kqHABUN4zT8QaYf9vzDQiIkptXVlFeiS+66mnYeOF86t mkoyLR+GOL/XWcFx8p2ow== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:jCGHWRSjzeo=:m61WR6A3ZB3If+NTfaVj88 laO2Dmb1Ua2TEgijoRiW8skLokhJHRZEnp1pMvTX9kP9ROuoLzzTbXFeGpyBNfsCxXU2vqouI NNO5T35wTUhjhZPrpr92rMysdoKW5fbb/1065fI+Vcdyml3kd2R/2YKon09p4aCjEkdrUqVt7 H9/Vdy5AagvF0CYqCWK2o4/pX0ka2YSuMc/uXifHiG0SbnbEDIvU9M9N184CiUyX3Ox122w08 SwbLgSMF9sjc0vkfKChh8fD0iGOdFEYTUxSK45rkd2DW9Vo4Q40quiinZUDxgLqkPh6m+lG1b pLMpzaA1Yw9yJ4jmulEhCZxAwjNB92SZWfwrBufsLMAtR6MOfntTXoGBh4fVjEyLM3l76SZn5 Ydr53CDdTtCJbbRGRD6y3CIZVgokePhRnWwaUFYSrlWsY/3rzfjTWyumQDAPRlOpZ1ry/qVUD KBc5v4X4+qn7U/YhdlRaiBKBmAwIW+/aznFML4qavluuR0pLfc8qEfklfi0milNgyp0bCZRZC niSYXcuXO/iAcB8WXQhYDZYhQqH86h6KRbw8Oc2/IxtJRZoqupkYji0QBFXwkvi1EbGs3JxOj UP3FY24OpZADT8At/Z5KYbtORQsmVE80RRj97v/b3BwrSZy/tkFOUmVq8QPxwCOWmWMpu00sB F5aS6vZt1pgh+VMEacOfGzESPi70XOxOB81JiwEwKO/tt/bWXRygVrBt+zPTuRWpseFqv/ra4 /xagNo/5hQ1Fold5qio1CRAeJR++/llpYOIjCAiI+N9OS+XI5ACcRs9N8AAVFvTqEzr5bBJsy 3MtRlNgQ/pYk/6dx+shOUG1iG2Gi1HwD3mSEHS9zCTBu6t8+ro= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 20:06:01 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stephen Berman >> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 14:33:18 +0100 >> Cc: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:18:41 -0500 Noam Postavsky >> wrote: >> >> > Stephen Berman writes: >> > >> >> The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the >> >> default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only >> >> when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, >> >> ! a scroll bar separates the two windows. On graphical terminals, Emacs >> >> ! uses a thin line to indicate the border, so the display table has no >> >> ! effect. >> >> @end table >> > >> > If it's only effective on a tty display, then is the scroll bar >> > reference irrelevant? AFAIK, there are never scroll bars on a tty >> > display anyway. >> >> I think that's right, so the above is misleading (with or without the >> change). > > Careful here: the same could be said about the truncation and > continuation glyphs (and in fact, the manual actually did say that), > but it's incorrect, because those glyphs _are_ used on GUI frames when > the user disables the fringes. > > So any such "irrelevancy" must be qualified by "currently" etc., > because no one prevents us from implementing a feature whereby they > will be used. > > I will soon install the following: Thanks, this is a good fix (and also addresses Martin's concern). Steve Berman From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:53:26 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Stephen Berman Subject: bug#13473: closed (Re: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug) Message-ID: References: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 13473 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 13473@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 02:10:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1570759803-6846-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1570759803-6846-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 13473@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 13473: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D13473 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1570759803-6846-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 13473-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2019 02:09:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57415 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIkMj-0001kd-Rk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 22:09:14 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f179.google.com ([209.85.214.179]:37905) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iIkMh-0001kF-3s for 13473-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 22:09:12 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f179.google.com with SMTP id w8so3706582plq.5 for <13473-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 19:09:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=yxK4VIyQ9kfzF7vHHklSSVCMn6plK7c9KZ5/06HuXtA=; b=VWW+gK+PEKiZ7dPG5diZsKxFUKRiW8C/WhX2uoPN+p59dE1Df2+SWm9BDmXArXbdBD 1lipOMtlroH1HRLvsuOkBJPrM4DubJYmhPsWExlDESEe0b7y+8T5Rq782yjMtJhxSNw8 mj/vIDXG4gEQ98bG3WlrIkDWBZhwkUtz46+tS7JJ6RIGU7zmGuUqUSZaGRw5808kgHzI 0V9wJkNmcOR0Elx6VKS8kgQyYJXo/T4UeD6zUx0TaQ9Mjulir8g7x8WwI82RYGz5hvQJ z5SEc9L729EqpPxrsFLotWOaYOKGg/yontgPsR6tsnbFmQ4Svtsmwrs5pf3kqknqcaQt ddNw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWcCUj6DG5sc1ijv1Y4ANL/ypn1Kavs5C88arrNrBRn5evvP2L4 CmYBMrAv6nqK9+y9gtfqBFKR5c/634MGL8jOrpA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzpfAAUWkrqt75kw9m4OPmiak3mOmzWrcx1b8vP08DCRBrd2RMkOMlULq0vv5SoZALV4RATTFLR7JxNWqOsiL4= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:d888:: with SMTP id b8mr12899153plz.259.1570759743826; Thu, 10 Oct 2019 19:09:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Stefan Kangas Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 04:08:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#13473: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13473-done Cc: Noam Postavsky , Stephen Berman , 13473-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I will soon install the following: > > @item 5 > The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the > default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This currently has > effect only on text terminals; on graphical terminals, if vertical > scroll bars are supported and in use, a scroll bar separates the two > windows, and if there are no vertical scroll bars and no dividers > (@pxref{Windows Dividers}), Emacs uses a thin line to indicate the > border. That fix was installed, and there doesn't seem to be anything else to do here. I'm therefore closing this bug. Best regards, Stefan Kangas ------------=_1570759803-6846-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2013 11:12:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36272 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnO8-0005MZ-M2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:12:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33364) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnO5-0005MG-Vh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:12:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnNN-0007s5-MV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:11:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:49848) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnNN-0007s0-JL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:11:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44704) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnNH-0004Ov-CP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:11:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnN1-0007oh-Ej for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:11:11 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:61832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvnN1-0007oQ-4f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:10:55 -0500 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.17]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MPsKa-1TqpYK0ixO-004y0k for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:10:54 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Jan 2013 11:10:53 -0000 Received: from i59F56905.versanet.de (EHLO rosalinde.fritz.box) [89.245.105.5] by mail.gmx.net (mp017) with SMTP; 17 Jan 2013 12:10:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/IcRItAKvI9S28QPXLP8KmXKO2BtFdBapDCX4C4c zCfB/WUkRioCJz From: Stephen Berman To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.50; Display Tables doc bug Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:10:52 +0100 Message-ID: <87fw20oyir.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) The (elisp) Display Tables node neglects to mention that changing the vertical-border slot does not work on graphical terminals (compare e.g. (set-display-table-slot standard-display-table 'vertical-border (make-glyph-code 8214)) on graphical and non-graphics-capable displays) (whereas it does mention this difference for the truncation and wrap slots). === modified file 'doc/lispref/display.texi' *** doc/lispref/display.texi 2013-01-05 21:18:01 +0000 --- doc/lispref/display.texi 2013-01-17 10:22:19 +0000 *************** *** 5904,5910 **** The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, ! a scroll bar separates the two windows. @end table For example, here is how to construct a display table that mimics --- 5904,5912 ---- The glyph used to draw the border between side-by-side windows (the default is @samp{|}). @xref{Splitting Windows}. This takes effect only when there are no scroll bars; if scroll bars are supported and in use, ! a scroll bar separates the two windows. On graphical terminals, Emacs ! uses a thin line to indicate the border, so the display table has no ! effect. @end table For example, here is how to construct a display table that mimics In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.4 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.4) of 2013-01-17 on rosalinde Bzr revision: 111542 michael.albinus@gmx.de-20130117090647-lb9mkbk6n8q142w5 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11203000 System Description: openSUSE 12.2 (x86_64) ------------=_1570759803-6846-1--