From unknown Wed Jun 25 00:26:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13468: 24.2.92; Doc of `random' fails to mention string arguments Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 13468 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 13468@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: michael_heerdegen@web.de Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135837957312932 (code B ref -1); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:40:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2013 23:39:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35802 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZw-0003MW-9O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:39:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45947) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZu-0003MQ-Cy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:39:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZH-0004ao-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:52 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:36480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZG-0004aj-VF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57293) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZD-00083F-P8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZB-0004a0-L5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:46 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:50927) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZB-0004Yw-BN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:45 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([89.204.153.30]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MXHt7-1TPTGx4ApJ-00WQ9k for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:38:43 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87txqgitnx.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:rxbaTITvA3Dx26YUxkJEsTkEkOQCLWu5J15NTNDzrkj oKOF0mj477Pa/mTMaPcsVqgaXC0Re/6UV0vq97DlhqkhGH7K2Z MtykjsO4qayY/L+DNTQSBW4+FZf0UsbQ5AQjcIf/HZH48r1/3C 6jJTxQVKmHvMgT0nGFbtPnyZha6woiFyIQSjm9Tsqe7BISZjnI 3W5r9yqjJHZoSO2ZzzwMvF+b9Hx2sEYF/bFHlFDp3k= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hi, from the elisp manual: -- Function: random &optional limit [...] If LIMIT is a string, it means to choose a new seed based on the string's contents. That's what it does for me, I think. However, the docstring of `random' does not mention string values. Due to the docstring, strings would be ignored. Thanks, Michael. In GNU Emacs 24.2.92.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2013-01-16 on drachen Bzr revision: rgm@gnu.org-20130116122101-t5ychlz0gwh9u34x Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy) Configured using: `configure '--prefix=/usr/local/built/'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: C value of $LANG: de_DE.utf8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t From unknown Wed Jun 25 00:26:02 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: michael_heerdegen@web.de Subject: bug#13468: closed (Re: bug#13468: 24.2.92; Doc of `random' fails to mention string arguments) Message-ID: References: <87txqgitnx.fsf@web.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 13468 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 13468@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 02:09:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1358388542-27058-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1358388542-27058-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #13468: 24.2.92; Doc of `random' fails to mention string arguments which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 13468@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 13468: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D13468 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1358388542-27058-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 13468-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2013 02:08:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35869 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TveuT-000729-Vw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:08:54 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40980) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TveuR-00071z-S3 for 13468-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:08:52 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tvetn-0003xV-To; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:08:12 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 13468-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13468: 24.2.92; Doc of `random' fails to mention string arguments References: <87txqgitnx.fsf@web.de> X-Spook: Ortega Echelon Agfa broadside Telex enforcers AMEMB X-Ran: axY)k{[9=Xx$>Q*yl)eWQ\V:hiMOoB)d1=|HI\zrgGJ#w5avfh*47Sfv%d6i-0x` (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:40:02 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13468-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Version: 24.2.93 Done. ------------=_1358388542-27058-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2013 23:39:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35802 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZw-0003MW-9O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:39:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45947) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZu-0003MQ-Cy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:39:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZH-0004ao-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:52 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:36480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZG-0004aj-VF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57293) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZD-00083F-P8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZB-0004a0-L5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:46 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:50927) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvcZB-0004Yw-BN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:45 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([89.204.153.30]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MXHt7-1TPTGx4ApJ-00WQ9k for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:38:43 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2.92; Doc of `random' fails to mention string arguments Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87txqgitnx.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:rxbaTITvA3Dx26YUxkJEsTkEkOQCLWu5J15NTNDzrkj oKOF0mj477Pa/mTMaPcsVqgaXC0Re/6UV0vq97DlhqkhGH7K2Z MtykjsO4qayY/L+DNTQSBW4+FZf0UsbQ5AQjcIf/HZH48r1/3C 6jJTxQVKmHvMgT0nGFbtPnyZha6woiFyIQSjm9Tsqe7BISZjnI 3W5r9yqjJHZoSO2ZzzwMvF+b9Hx2sEYF/bFHlFDp3k= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: michael_heerdegen@web.de List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hi, from the elisp manual: -- Function: random &optional limit [...] If LIMIT is a string, it means to choose a new seed based on the string's contents. That's what it does for me, I think. However, the docstring of `random' does not mention string values. Due to the docstring, strings would be ignored. Thanks, Michael. In GNU Emacs 24.2.92.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2013-01-16 on drachen Bzr revision: rgm@gnu.org-20130116122101-t5ychlz0gwh9u34x Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy) Configured using: `configure '--prefix=/usr/local/built/'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: C value of $LANG: de_DE.utf8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t ------------=_1358388542-27058-1--