From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 14 17:23:45 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2013 22:23:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60389 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TusRV-00076Q-1f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:23:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TusRS-00076J-Pi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:23:43 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TusR1-00013y-Lw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:23:16 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:60534) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TusR1-00013u-Iq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:23:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TusR0-0006bf-Lr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:23:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TusQz-00013e-JM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:23:14 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:45402) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TusQz-00013T-D5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:23:13 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id r0EMNBDm002146 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:23:12 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0EMNAcG000734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:23:11 GMT Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0EMNAiZ022399 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:23:10 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:23:10 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.3.50; doc of `goto-char' Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:23:09 -0800 Message-ID: <6D342738E4964535BBDF4B379109AFE2@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac3ypbtsvHW3YCLlR/SCcQ0iNKFmqQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) I don't see where it does this in the code, but it sure seems like `goto-char' recenters the window around the target position. This is part of what the command does, and should be mentioned in its doc. It is not mentioned in either the doc string or the Elisp manual. E.g. In a large buffer with many occurrences of some word (e.g. "the"), move down a few screenfuls from bob and then position a line with the word near the top of the window. Remember the position of the first char of the word. Now page down a few screenfuls, then use `goto-char' to move back to the remembered position. Although it was previously near the window top it will now be in the middle of the window. Or do this: C-s the C-s C-s ... to visit other "the" occurrences, then quit Isearch with C-g. That takes you back to the starting position, but it is now recentered in the window, instead of being near the top, as it was. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-12-31 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 111388 rudalics@gmx.at-20121231113513-subz2dazg6yjukzh Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 14 22:48:17 2013 Received: (at 13441) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2013 03:48:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60633 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuxVZ-0006Jx-3T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:48:17 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:52966) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuxVV-0006Jl-RV for 13441@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:48:15 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MGN00H00EDHTA00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13441@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:47:44 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MGN00HQFEJ6SE20@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:47:44 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 05:47:49 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13441: 24.3.50; doc of `goto-char' In-reply-to: <6D342738E4964535BBDF4B379109AFE2@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83hamjqf8a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6D342738E4964535BBDF4B379109AFE2@us.oracle.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:23:09 -0800 > > I don't see where it does this in the code, but it sure seems like > `goto-char' recenters the window around the target position. This is > part of what the command does, and should be mentioned in its doc. It > is not mentioned in either the doc string or the Elisp manual. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:23:09 -0800 > > I don't see where it does this in the code, but it sure seems like > `goto-char' recenters the window around the target position. This is > part of what the command does, and should be mentioned in its doc. It > is not mentioned in either the doc string or the Elisp manual. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.172 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4231] > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:23:09 -0800 > > I don't see where it does this in the code, but it sure seems like > `goto-char' recenters the window around the target position. This is > part of what the command does, and should be mentioned in its doc. It > is not mentioned in either the doc string or the Elisp manual. It is not part of what the command does. It is part of normal Emacs display, whereby, if point moves outside the displayed portion of the buffer, Emacs brings point into view by (by default) centering point in the window. Here "by default" means "unless you customized one of the scroll-* variables". The window centering is described in "Textual Scrolling" and in the Emacs manual under "Auto Scrolling". From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 15 10:11:12 2013 Received: (at 13441) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2013 15:11:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv8AR-0007JH-2T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:11:12 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:51303) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv8AP-0007JA-KU for 13441@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:11:10 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id r0FFAbsE010212 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:10:38 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0FFAaTe022491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:10:37 GMT Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0FFAaIP027628; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:10:36 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.246.149) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:10:36 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <6D342738E4964535BBDF4B379109AFE2@us.oracle.com> <83hamjqf8a.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#13441: 24.3.50; doc of `goto-char' Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:10:34 -0800 Message-ID: <7C2CFBE149AF4F6380C6C2B1AF28D85F@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <83hamjqf8a.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac3y0xUfeq/gUcz5TB+5obWRLZYAiQAX0Rrg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13441 Cc: 13441@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > It is not part of what the command does. It is part of normal Emacs > display, whereby, if point moves outside the displayed portion of the > buffer, Emacs brings point into view by (by default) centering point > in the window. Right, forgot. Thanks, I closed the bug. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 15 10:11:15 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2013 15:11:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33555 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv8AV-0007JW-Cw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:11:15 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:20834) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv8AT-0007JP-K1 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:11:14 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id r0FFAga3003181 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:10:43 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0FFAgr8017374 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:10:42 GMT Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0FFAff0003701 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:10:41 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.246.149) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:10:41 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: bug #13441: close Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:10:39 -0800 Message-ID: <66180A84F2074046A9240767C35A73AE@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac3zMnqnNdqZcCTkTvikRHB/pyswOQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) close 13441 thanks From unknown Fri Aug 15 15:35:07 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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