From unknown Mon Aug 11 21:12:58 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#13437 <13437@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#13437 <13437@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; doc of `but-last' Reply-To: bug#13437 <13437@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 04:12:58 +0000 retitle 13437 24.3.50; doc of `but-last' reassign 13437 emacs submitter 13437 "Drew Adams" severity 13437 minor tag 13437 fixed wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 14 12:40:44 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2013 17:40:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60166 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tuo1a-0005gy-Db for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:40:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55731) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tuo1U-0005gY-L8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:40:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tuo0s-00069b-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:40:04 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:40207) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tuo0s-00069J-4c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:39:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38842) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tuo0o-0002Rk-HY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:39:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tuo0i-00067v-Gd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:39:54 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:36165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tuo0i-00067p-Aj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:39:48 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id r0EHdkON030670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:39:47 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0EHdk7P020588 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:39:46 GMT Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0EHdkha011466 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:39:46 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:39:46 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.3.50; doc of `but-last' Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:39:45 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac3yfiQe23DpsHveSeyg+HiP+7eQng== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Doc string: Return a copy of LIST with the last N elements removed. It is better for the first line to describe the behavior with null optional args. E.g.: Return a copy of LIST with the last element removed. Optional arg N is the number of elements to remove. Similarly, the doc string of `nbutlast' - e.g., Modify LIST by removing the last element. Optional arg N is the number of elements to remove. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-12-31 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 111388 rudalics@gmx.at-20121231113513-subz2dazg6yjukzh Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 12 20:58:49 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2013 00:58:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40132 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UmvsH-0007w3-D9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:58:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:53992 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UmvsE-0007vs-Ez for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:58:46 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UmvsE-0006jG-0G for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:58:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:58:46 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 13437 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.2 (-----) # cf forward-char, forward-line etc etc tag 13437 wontfix From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 01 02:49:35 2014 Received: (at 13437) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2014 07:49:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43818 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9VKY-0005Hf-NA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 02:49:35 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:44953) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9VKW-0005HX-Dx for 13437@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 02:49:32 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W9VKH-0002NS-UJ; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 08:49:18 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: control message for bug 13437 References: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 23:48:25 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:58:46 -0400") Message-ID: <87k3dfnuie.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1W9VKH-0002NS-UJ X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391845758.45609@vobG3ES+sJj1QvAfBT26lA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13437 Cc: 13437@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: > # cf forward-char, forward-line etc etc > tag 13437 wontfix forward-char is an interactive built-in function in `C source code'. [...] If N is omitted or nil, move point 1 character forward. ---- I think it would make sense to say what an omitted N in butlast means. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 01 02:56:27 2014 Received: (at 13437) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2014 07:56:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43822 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9VRC-0005RV-Aw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 02:56:26 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:40281) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9VR9-0005RM-Aq for 13437@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 02:56:24 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W9VQu-0002R7-DO; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 08:56:08 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#13437: 24.3.50; doc of `but-last' References: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 23:55:16 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:39:45 -0800") Message-ID: <87eh3nnu6z.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1W9VQu-0002R7-DO X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391846169.30836@T9M+o7EWburMTRMRfZ65Iw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13437 Cc: 13437@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > Doc string: > > Return a copy of LIST with the last N elements removed. > > It is better for the first line to describe the behavior with null > optional args. E.g.: > > Return a copy of LIST with the last element removed. > Optional arg N is the number of elements to remove. > > Similarly, the doc string of `nbutlast' - e.g., > > Modify LIST by removing the last element. > Optional arg N is the number of elements to remove. Fixed now. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 01 02:56:31 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2014 07:56:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43825 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9VRH-0005Rp-8S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 02:56:31 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:40287) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9VRF-0005Re-1Z for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 02:56:29 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W9VQz-0002RF-2x for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 08:56:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 23:55:21 -0800 Message-Id: <87d2j7nu6u.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13437 X-MailScanner-ID: 1W9VQz-0002RF-2x X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391846175.90878@hO8W7r9B5Vf4YvjSkChR+A X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 13437 fixed close 13437 24.4 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 01 14:58:38 2014 Received: (at 13437) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2014 19:58:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45353 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9gi6-0005rP-2d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 14:58:38 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:35966) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9gi3-0005rE-Lb for 13437@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 14:58:36 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9gi3-000351-5D; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 14:58:35 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 13437@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13437: control message for bug 13437 References: <87k3dfnuie.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Spook: CipherTAC-2000 basement kibo Syria security high security X-Ran: &]P/)GqgTQ8Uj`Q<}*.%pa7*D$*v"15,GaMj2#u4fupeFFDmf@6SXoah<9M!tNx<QK}X X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 14:58:35 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13437 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> # cf forward-char, forward-line etc etc >> tag 13437 wontfix > > forward-char is an interactive built-in function in `C source code'. > > [...] > > If N is omitted or nil, move point 1 character forward. forward-char did not use to say that until recently (and forward-line etc still does not). Pretending it's not obvious that N defaults to 1 for all such functions is just being tediously literal-minded IMO. But it's obviously not worth arguing about. From unknown Mon Aug 11 21:12:58 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator