From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13284: 24.3.50; when launched with -Q the frame is as wide as the scrollbar Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 13284 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 13284@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135661898516756 (code B ref -1); Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:37:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Dec 2012 14:36:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33407 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEZM-0004MC-Cn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:36:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32951) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEZH-0004M3-Ix for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:36:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEYP-0000q4-DU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:31 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:32793) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEYP-0000q0-AC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEYH-0005Iu-Od for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEY6-0000k5-2b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:17 -0500 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([2001:748:100:40::2:5]:37658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEY5-0000gt-SW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:06 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.140] (helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1ToEY3-0007Yb-Tr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:35:03 +0100 Received: from localhost ([::1]:37140 helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1ToEY3-0004co-PT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:35:03 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.25] (port=56462 helo=15.mx.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1ToEVh-0002Su-5X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:32:37 +0100 Received: from [2002:5fdf:94b6:0:20d:93ff:fe2a:32c4] (port=50530) by 15.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1ToEVg-0005U1-SD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:32:37 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed From: Peter Dyballa Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:32:33 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hello! This behaviour seems to be related to the default font used, Lucida =20 Sans Typewriter from Java. When I launch GNU Emacs as nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -Q -fn "FreeMono" the frame opens OK with 80 column or such. (The same behaviour is =20 also shown by GNU Emacs 24.2.50. The released GNU Emacs 24.2 does not =20= show this behaviour, but it claims: *** Warning: font in family 'LucidaSans-Typewriter' not found = [644 =20 times] Error during redisplay: (error "Variable binding depth exceeds = max-=20 specpdl-size") select-frame: Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size *** Warning: font in family 'LucidaSans-Typewriter' not found ) In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, NS apple-=20 appkit-824.48) of 2012-12-27 on Bzr revision: 111341 =20 michael.albinus@gmx.de-20121226162218-5u40mxjdtankym19 Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.824 Configured using: `configure '--without-pop' '--without-sound' '--with-ns' '--disable-ns-self-contained' '--x-libraries=3D/usr/X11/lib' '--x-includes=3D/usr/X11/include' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar24:/Library/Application Support/Emacs' =20 'CFLAGS=3D-g -ggdb3 -H -pipe -fPIC -fno-common -O0 -mcpu=3D7450 -mtune=3D7450 = -maltivec -faltivec -mabi=3Daltivec -malign-natural' 'CC=3Dgcc-apple-4.2' 'CXX=3Dg++-apple-4.2' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-I/sw/include' 'LDFLAGS=3D-L/sw/lib = -v -Wl,-v -Wl,-bind_at_load -Wl,-t' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/sw/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/share/pkgconfig:/usr/X11/lib/=20= pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig'' Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Mit evolution=E4ren Gr=FC=DFen Pete "Evolution" o __o _o _ =B0\___o /0~ -\<, ^\___ /=3D\\_/-% oo~_______ /\ /\______/ \_________O/ O_______________o=3D=3D=3D>-->O--o___= _ From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13284: 24.3.50; when launched with -Q the frame is as wide as the scrollbar Resent-From: Alan Third Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 20:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13284 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 13284@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13284-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13284.146472669631598 (code B ref 13284); Tue, 31 May 2016 20:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 13284) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2016 20:31:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48739 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qK7-0008DO-Kk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:31:35 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f54.google.com ([74.125.82.54]:35384) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7qK5-00086G-57 for 13284@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 16:31:34 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f54.google.com with SMTP id a136so151012900wme.0 for <13284@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 31 May 2016 13:31:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=4PxXUSpErDtGbK7JvEjcUfSprxJLXin74+oi/mFSCuc=; b=vGhTA9eCLqNRGm9XbFCiQ1D2bNcYYh1sqjOsoVv3y2DGNkjHNqCHMumqNiFM6jS7zK KWzEjkqbz1VbLpk1/KcaiWoZh51Qqa5SOLD8hCB3mKnfUDY8X742Qmyeu4a1eSpdzZGs naMS6j+9aMHuUW+psJUaiQB25rjkGlaQc+uBFDNipU9PuH+XZj7jf73pnRFktuh/61Yt t7pPTJqMnjxxbhcKIq4sedzp4kTqgDYRk478t4gNpUhRN9QrNXzgYWZ6eJGvBrZ3sTvO B/bwc/1DYtcbFuN4sMQtZxfnPcVLzkG9BqETwus1VbKfAiDLFkb1vikcK0paYg/LdfrV uoJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=4PxXUSpErDtGbK7JvEjcUfSprxJLXin74+oi/mFSCuc=; b=hGSQRKVTRTgQEBqAe5uDDCzYLDviGEs78WArcKgG3RajRhJFH5xhQNgzeqLWQXF5IE L0XK834gzUU1Gxu4MiJqKz+7wdMcJtKPlUahzG9hZcjGjYLXkA9afKqqpG7LW52cHojt prUtXxXPeZoXkEAoqYRDjmlnTxnGQyQCFqAnXh46wRXEsmFneXJy35337lJzSQLglWEt SUUsHxggoeUYTKUk+qv2Zu2alEdnRzAVZfYTZB7IrC1gEVIhtIFVb8eRZp81uTZwhx3D XbDhNckELZTTL2jKe3qdF1Ri+JqgzqXeex/VFIYym4GJBC3iQI8wpJQiHFOrHkm0uQ2q BG9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJpZmpygHk2R6ss/AaZLm8/n0l4eueilWCR9X1JsLM84pnYimwOqOrZ7MFAYqD95A== X-Received: by 10.28.27.8 with SMTP id b8mr18101518wmb.78.1464726687668; Tue, 31 May 2016 13:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breton.holly.idiocy.org (ip6-2001-08b0-03f8-8129-20c5-ff51-aaec-eb15.holly.idiocy.org. [2001:8b0:3f8:8129:20c5:ff51:aaec:eb15]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d5sm41626339wje.20.2016.05.31.13.31.26 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 31 May 2016 13:31:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Third References: Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 21:31:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Peter Dyballa's message of "Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:32:33 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Peter Dyballa writes: > This behaviour seems to be related to the default font used, Lucida > Sans Typewriter from Java. When I launch GNU Emacs as > > nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -Q -fn "FreeMono" > > the frame opens OK with 80 column or such. (The same behaviour is also > shown by GNU Emacs 24.2.50. The released GNU Emacs 24.2 does not show > this behaviour, but it claims: > > *** Warning: font in family 'LucidaSans-Typewriter' not found > [644 times] > Error during redisplay: (error "Variable binding depth exceeds > max- > specpdl-size") > select-frame: Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size > *** Warning: font in family 'LucidaSans-Typewriter' not found > ) Hi, sorry nobody's got back to you about this before now. Are you still experiencing this behaviour? I don't have LucidaSans-Typewriter, but I can't find a font that causes this fault in Emacs 25. 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[2001:8b0:3f8:8129:20c5:ff51:aaec:eb15]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jq1sm41545095wjc.28.2016.05.31.13.31.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 31 May 2016 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 21:31:34 +0100 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Alan Third Subject: control message for bug #13284 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) tags 13284 unreproducible From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13284: 24.3.50; when launched with -Q the frame is as wide as the scrollbar Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 21:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13284 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: unreproducible To: Alan Third Cc: 13284@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13284-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13284.146473055125224 (code B ref 13284); Tue, 31 May 2016 21:36:01 +0000 Received: (at 13284) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2016 21:35:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48790 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7rKJ-0006Ym-C2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:35:51 -0400 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]:53205) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7rKH-0006Ya-5n for 13284@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:35:49 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.141] (helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1b7rKC-0002sY-0I; Tue, 31 May 2016 23:35:44 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:42436 helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1b7rKB-0004Gf-Sl; Tue, 31 May 2016 23:35:43 +0200 Received: from mx4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.14]:33131) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1b7rHN-0006nQ-Ob; Tue, 31 May 2016 23:32:49 +0200 Received: from ipservice-047-068-041-130.pools.arcor-ip.net ([47.68.41.130]:62226 helo=[192.168.2.102]) by mx4.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1b7rHN-00034m-IJ; Tue, 31 May 2016 23:32:49 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Peter Dyballa In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 23:32:44 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15EA431D-A1D9-4BE2-8ABA-1FD62B33848E@Freenet.DE> References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Originated-At: 47.68.41.130!62226 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Am 31.05.2016 um 22:31 schrieb Alan Third: > Are you still > experiencing this behaviour? I don't have LucidaSans-Typewriter, but I > can't find a font that causes this fault in Emacs 25. Hello! Which GNU Emacs 25 I do not experience this effect. LucidaSans-Typewriter was contained in Java Runtimes years ago. -- Greetings Pete A common mistake that people make when trying to design something = completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete = fools. - Douglas Adams, =BBMostly Harmless=AB From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:21 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Peter Dyballa Subject: bug#13284: closed (Re: bug#13284: 24.3.50; when launched with -Q the frame is as wide as the scrollbar) Message-ID: References: <20160531213728.GA63819@breton.holly.idiocy.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 13284 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: unreproducible Reply-To: 13284@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 21:38:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1464730682-25476-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1464730682-25476-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #13284: 24.3.50; when launched with -Q the frame is as wide as the scrollbar which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 13284@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 13284: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D13284 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1464730682-25476-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 13284-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2016 21:37:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48801 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7rM1-0006cI-Qi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:37:37 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com ([74.125.82.52]:34944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7rLz-0006c4-KE for 13284-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:37:35 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a136so153220813wme.0 for <13284-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 31 May 2016 14:37:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Gpc0o9c9fR9jE9uxJx45vtFA6m32uKO2jq2v9CzSGa4=; b=mmU0iJs74hH0+mN5SKRf8D1GjRpsKW51fk68KsktuILXOqc7LYiPIZakaXCTrYpuwO C7dUleOVP/k0QnNac06Z6P+QDWerpT6Kuqz1C33EGn0FUaerW+1blHDooNt/AMTvhDyO +EHxsy46bNhh3cPTb/JXM4J2WDcxZPHHVS733dtj1GF4mGc/2YH2VyS00bSlgOVylZJ7 442bHVIFpDmCKR6F8prTYPc84LhWZx+8+ijUZCbAgIq7jwph9zto/BSCXMlubeq40YyX 0CqfipBrtFWRC/EJTRwdyJyMy8ri5HxK2I/VJG6XLg7v3oi5flTmoSdCs9aBg2K3YhQf 5J9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Gpc0o9c9fR9jE9uxJx45vtFA6m32uKO2jq2v9CzSGa4=; b=J9eoFfQjf73w+IlOMwaZS3I6ZgZRyHwUXTu9AgDoY/wiX4oWey8NTVw+LMaLgOwXEU vH5P7tRk6hHM3AZcwTpDHLMXpeknbxxIEXobRa7pKWuVHiQQbWLpheoOMNgfBQKiAFqb jTQjlcSZhXs38cx57Utx9/RciMYJvG2eblNuigkJTf0fJ6pAtSFykvtFhp0hbd1EbfLe xd/jC039tzGHhNp1GcjOip3CK47NSXMEF6dTxcakAD8+lgAcCxr5uMcASo2EvZbTZTOT UsR/W/ahZ+lzCR4E7iDSOXjynYairlG4X9JrmpwElZT8w9eu4zspruLxSivolJoq2Bpg 6CpA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL53zV2GR71dZnMbbM1CswLPmRAY9ZEv+sI56yRgBSo718o58tFKPQuEbV0NKQZnA== X-Received: by 10.28.27.8 with SMTP id b8mr18284859wmb.78.1464730650079; Tue, 31 May 2016 14:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breton.holly.idiocy.org (ip6-2001-08b0-03f8-8129-20c5-ff51-aaec-eb15.holly.idiocy.org. [2001:8b0:3f8:8129:20c5:ff51:aaec:eb15]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h14sm31430200wme.1.2016.05.31.14.37.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 31 May 2016 14:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 22:37:28 +0100 From: Alan Third To: Peter Dyballa Subject: Re: bug#13284: 24.3.50; when launched with -Q the frame is as wide as the scrollbar Message-ID: <20160531213728.GA63819@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: <15EA431D-A1D9-4BE2-8ABA-1FD62B33848E@Freenet.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15EA431D-A1D9-4BE2-8ABA-1FD62B33848E@Freenet.DE> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13284-done Cc: 13284-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:32:44PM +0200, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 31.05.2016 um 22:31 schrieb Alan Third: > > > Are you still > > experiencing this behaviour? I don't have LucidaSans-Typewriter, but I > > can't find a font that causes this fault in Emacs 25. > > Hello! > > Which GNU Emacs 25 I do not experience this effect. > > LucidaSans-Typewriter was contained in Java Runtimes years ago. Thanks. I'll close this bug report for now. Feel free to re-open if the issue comes back. -- Alan Third ------------=_1464730682-25476-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Dec 2012 14:36:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33407 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEZM-0004MC-Cn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:36:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32951) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEZH-0004M3-Ix for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:36:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEYP-0000q4-DU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:31 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:32793) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEYP-0000q0-AC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEYH-0005Iu-Od for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEY6-0000k5-2b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:17 -0500 Received: from mout3.freenet.de ([2001:748:100:40::2:5]:37658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ToEY5-0000gt-SW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:35:06 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.140] (helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1ToEY3-0007Yb-Tr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:35:03 +0100 Received: from localhost ([::1]:37140 helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1ToEY3-0004co-PT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:35:03 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.25] (port=56462 helo=15.mx.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1ToEVh-0002Su-5X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:32:37 +0100 Received: from [2002:5fdf:94b6:0:20d:93ff:fe2a:32c4] (port=50530) by 15.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1ToEVg-0005U1-SD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:32:37 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Peter Dyballa Subject: 24.3.50; when launched with -Q the frame is as wide as the scrollbar Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:32:33 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hello! This behaviour seems to be related to the default font used, Lucida =20 Sans Typewriter from Java. When I launch GNU Emacs as nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -Q -fn "FreeMono" the frame opens OK with 80 column or such. (The same behaviour is =20 also shown by GNU Emacs 24.2.50. The released GNU Emacs 24.2 does not =20= show this behaviour, but it claims: *** Warning: font in family 'LucidaSans-Typewriter' not found = [644 =20 times] Error during redisplay: (error "Variable binding depth exceeds = max-=20 specpdl-size") select-frame: Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size *** Warning: font in family 'LucidaSans-Typewriter' not found ) In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, NS apple-=20 appkit-824.48) of 2012-12-27 on Bzr revision: 111341 =20 michael.albinus@gmx.de-20121226162218-5u40mxjdtankym19 Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.824 Configured using: `configure '--without-pop' '--without-sound' '--with-ns' '--disable-ns-self-contained' '--x-libraries=3D/usr/X11/lib' '--x-includes=3D/usr/X11/include' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar24:/Library/Application Support/Emacs' =20 'CFLAGS=3D-g -ggdb3 -H -pipe -fPIC -fno-common -O0 -mcpu=3D7450 -mtune=3D7450 = -maltivec -faltivec -mabi=3Daltivec -malign-natural' 'CC=3Dgcc-apple-4.2' 'CXX=3Dg++-apple-4.2' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-I/sw/include' 'LDFLAGS=3D-L/sw/lib = -v -Wl,-v -Wl,-bind_at_load -Wl,-t' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/sw/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/share/pkgconfig:/usr/X11/lib/=20= pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig'' Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Mit evolution=E4ren Gr=FC=DFen Pete "Evolution" o __o _o _ =B0\___o /0~ -\<, ^\___ /=3D\\_/-% oo~_______ /\ /\______/ \_________O/ O_______________o=3D=3D=3D>-->O--o___= _ ------------=_1464730682-25476-1--