From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:07:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13208: 23.3; startup.el: not possible to set inhibit-startup-echo-area-message for shared .emacs.el with different user names Resent-From: Ansgar Burchardt Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 13208 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 13208@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135576330116559 (code B ref -1); Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:56:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2012 16:55:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47366 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tkdy0-0004Iv-DF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:55:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57859) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkYz1-0004PI-Tr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:35:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkYwl-0003D3-8y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:34:29 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:46758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkYwl-0003Cp-60 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:33:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39983) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkYsw-0003d8-8Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:33:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkYp4-0000fr-CN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:29:26 -0500 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]:43067) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkYp4-0000LS-2i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:25:26 -0500 Received: from mail.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.109.247]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id qBHAueM2001904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:56:41 +0100 Received: from elsa.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (elsa.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.107.197]) by mail.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBHAue0C022582 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:56:40 +0100 Received: by elsa.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Postfix, from userid 3633) id 4C4F640B44; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:56:40 +0100 (CET) From: Ansgar Burchardt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:56:40 +0100 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:54:59 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) The function display-startup-echo-area-message in startup.el checks that inhibit-startup-echo-area-message is set in .emacs.el to a string literal matching the user name. This makes is impossible to set the option in a .emacs.el shared between different machines where I have different user names. It also breaks setting the option together with other options in the same setq. The documentation claims this is intended so that "thoughtless copying of your init file will not inhibit the message for someone else". However one can just add a (defun display-startup-echo-area-message () nil) or (defun display-startup-echo-area-message () (message "")) to ~/.emacs.el. This will also work after "thoughtless copying" so the whole code making setting this option extra hard seems to be fairly useless. Ansgar In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-09-21 on batsu, modified by Debian From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 17 12:07:59 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2012 17:07:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47418 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkeAY-0004fJ-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:07:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48378) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkeAW-0004fC-2p for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:07:56 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tke9H-0005fG-Vm for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:06:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:06:39 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 13208 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) forcemerge 12370 13208 From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:07:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#13208: 23.3; startup.el: not possible to set inhibit-startup-echo-area-message for shared .emacs.el with different user names Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13208 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Ansgar Burchardt Cc: 13208@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 13208-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13208.135577906021279 (code B ref 13208); Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 13208) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2012 21:17:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47649 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tki4B-0005X9-M8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:17:40 -0500 Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com ([74.125.83.44]:65369) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tki48-0005X1-GQ for 13208@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:17:38 -0500 Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id b47so3855917eek.3 for <13208@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:16:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=jzR9/6U2zZEN6wTwg88odr3vp0eGRYENtbSCCIMWslc=; b=afZUH12vm7fu+sA5h3C8K/sDfnOD4R5FtHxsTt1bSfN6zh4jFwDspZPZ8xZnR06CVl GeXbFDJYi+sww/PbL2Tl2F00ppGQnyR7Kth/hzo8mfpCCxoGUYR89r/nJqKn1/WqYc9+ GwofoVebQLDBCRHiWRZbH4XyPuHzGgt/Jz6zA9c2aRKBVa9Q+X/Tb8oTnipof+MfNg89 e0N+AUhRateL9VH2ZKFicVy+0TtEO5pTaHbLalUrlAYR7tmNvHn8Tt+AUNZyaU/rwCjp tUEiaHITxL3HfnivCbYfCy6tBBtb4277k+ZLQsHa2kExvzywcaqyp6zU7uN7lmg096eC +W1g== Received: by 10.14.174.198 with SMTP id x46mr44184084eel.23.1355778979328; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:16:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.4.209 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:15:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:15:39 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > The function display-startup-echo-area-message in startup.el checks that > inhibit-startup-echo-area-message is set in .emacs.el to a string > literal matching the user name. This makes is impossible to set the > option in a .emacs.el shared between different machines where I have > different user names. Try (put 'inhibit-startup-echo-area-message 'saved-value t) (setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message (user-login-name)) J From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 29 10:47:38 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2013 14:47:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40054 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Uhhf5-0003tm-8v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2013 10:47:37 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:49070 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Uhhf1-0003tT-LH for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2013 10:47:32 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 2F98E201A3; Wed, 29 May 2013 15:46:06 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1369838766; bh=8F22pRmJ5bKeT0kKkQK6ZswTFoeO8oN5SldOW9aCZbU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Date; b=R5fR1xDdU55L1eu+kd6o3mkJ9cLsu9lpIP26v4/KWcHyp4u6VRRimtvwG6hqkDV+B xMdB0wynZaD6WA1NAUaqkhiY7kbO8aIMBF5GBx2hzkd+s5zVINxpFkY+0YS9vSawqe 8WNyIC0YiGp6GDiw+VF8b3rduCBcYyTY/bExna/4= From: Christopher Schmidt To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 12370 Message-ID: <87txllvo77@ch.ristopher.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:46:06 +0100 (BST) X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) close 12370