From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 12 13:47:28 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2012 18:47:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39371 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TirL5-0002si-FS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:47:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TirL2-0002sa-3E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:47:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TirKA-0003Ss-2b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:46:36 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:43112) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TirK9-0003So-VX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:46:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56384) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TirK4-0008Po-6b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:46:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TirJq-0003Pf-NP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:46:24 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:48085) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TirJq-0003PZ-H2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:46:10 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qBCIk8si006033 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:46:09 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBCIk8lJ019954 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:46:08 GMT Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qBCIk8nQ025320 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:46:08 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:46:07 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.3.50; `find-file-noselect' should not display or log messages Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:46:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac3YmPIlhKGv2sNAQHqUmCiaaAi0+w== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) I'm using `find-file-noselect', and I see this in *Messages*: Note: file is write protected First, that is not helpful at all, without saying WHICH file is write-protected. More importantly, why does it make sense to display or record such a message when the file is not visited interactively? This message comes from `after-find-file'. And there are umpteen additional such messages issued from this function. The call to `after-find-file' is in `find-file-noselect-1'. I see that this is nothing new - it is the case even in Emacs 20. Nevertheless, I do not understand why `find-file-noselect' would issue messages. If you decide to keep this behavior, please consider adding the file name to such a message. At least that way, a user can learn something from the *Messages* log. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-12-07 on MS-W7-DANI Bzr revision: 111150 eggert@cs.ucla.edu-20121207175317-wxhrqxpp0173whq0 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/src -Ic:/emacs/libs/libpng-1.2.37-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/zlib-1.2.5 -Ic:/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -Ic:/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9-w32-bin/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.9.2-1-lib/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 12 18:18:25 2012 Received: (at 13159) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2012 23:18:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39699 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TivZJ-0006I5-5e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:18:25 -0500 Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:54237 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TivZF-0006Hv-Ro for 13159@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:18:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4EA451E1B6; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:17:31 -0800 (PST) From: Juri Linkov To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#13159: 24.3.50; `find-file-noselect' should not display or log messages Organization: JURTA References: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 01:16:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:46:07 -0800") Message-ID: <87y5h2rhh2.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13159 Cc: 13159@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > And there are umpteen additional such messages issued from this function. There are umpteen messages issued from umpteen functions, all without a buffer's file name or other additional information. For example: Auto-saving...done Mark set Follow the link [2 times] Type "q" to restore previous buffer. mouse-2, RET: find function's definition Mark saved where search started Entering debugger... Back to top level. Commands: d, x; RET; q to quit; ? for help. Making completion list... Quit Note: file is write protected Using vacuous schema Do you want to fix all of them too? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 12 18:32:07 2012 Received: (at 13159) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2012 23:32:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39703 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TivmY-0006dd-PZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:32:07 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:20213) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TivmW-0006d8-5L for 13159@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:32:05 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qBCNV8ip020759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:31:09 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBCNV5S4001450 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:31:06 GMT Received: from abhmt112.oracle.com (abhmt112.oracle.com [141.146.116.64]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qBCNV5dZ029373; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:31:05 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:31:05 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Juri Linkov'" References: <87y5h2rhh2.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Subject: RE: bug#13159: 24.3.50; `find-file-noselect' should not display or log messages Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:31:04 -0800 Message-ID: <05F27863C03E4DA8AB8682E40280D482@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87y5h2rhh2.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Thread-Index: Ac3Yvt3Jerlic77gQOy0avVUERP/4gAAMi9w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13159 Cc: 13159@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) > > And there are umpteen additional such messages issued from > > this function. > > There are umpteen messages issued from umpteen functions, > all without a buffer's file name or other additional information. > For example: > > Auto-saving...done > Mark set > Follow the link [2 times] > Type "q" to restore previous buffer. > mouse-2, RET: find function's definition > Mark saved where search started > Entering debugger... > Back to top level. > Commands: d, x; RET; q to quit; ? for help. > Making completion list... > Quit > Note: file is write protected > Using vacuous schema > > Do you want to fix all of them too? Without looking at the details, it sounds like all of them should be fixed. But this report is only about fixing messages wrt `find-file-noselect'. Do you disagree that it makes little sense to display messages when `find-file-noselect' is called from a non-interactive function? And that it is not too helpful to find a message in *Messages* telling you only that some (unnamed) file (perhaps in a dolist that handles 12358 files) was write-protected? The priority of fixing bugs is for Emacs Dev to decide. And this one has been around a very long time, so it is probably not the most important. But in any case, it is a bug, no? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 13 12:28:32 2012 Received: (at 13159) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2012 17:28:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41192 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TjCaG-0006LZ-9q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:28:32 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:50312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TjCaD-0006LR-JS for 13159@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:28:30 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MEZ00E00CHG6V00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13159@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:27:33 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MEZ00ETFCHX4A20@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:27:33 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:27:31 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13159: 24.3.50; `find-file-noselect' should not display or log messages In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83pq2dooak.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:46:07 -0800 > > I'm using `find-file-noselect', and I see this in *Messages*: > > Note: file is write protected > > First, that is not helpful at all, without saying WHICH file is > write-protected. > > More importantly, why does it make sense to display or record > such a message when the file is not visited interactively? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:46:07 -0800 > > I'm using `find-file-noselect', and I see this in *Messages*: > > Note: file is write protected > > First, that is not helpful at all, without saying WHICH file is > write-protected. > > More importantly, why does it make sense to display or record > such a message when the file is not visited interactively? [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.172 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4224] > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:46:07 -0800 > > I'm using `find-file-noselect', and I see this in *Messages*: > > Note: file is write protected > > First, that is not helpful at all, without saying WHICH file is > write-protected. > > More importantly, why does it make sense to display or record > such a message when the file is not visited interactively? If you invoke this function non-interactively, pass it a non-nil value as the 2nd argument. That should shut up any messages from this function or the subroutines it calls. E.g.: (find-file-noselect "/foo/bar/nonexistent-file" t) => # and no messages. Does this solve your problem? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 13 12:47:21 2012 Received: (at 13159) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2012 17:47:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41222 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TjCsS-0006xU-GQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:47:21 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:19976) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TjCsO-0006xL-A9 for 13159@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:47:17 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qBDHkJTj005185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:46:20 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBDHkJxh012164 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:46:19 GMT Received: from abhmt117.oracle.com (abhmt117.oracle.com [141.146.116.69]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qBDHkIUj018657; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 11:46:18 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:46:18 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <83pq2dooak.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#13159: 24.3.50; `find-file-noselect' should not display or log messages Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:46:18 -0800 Message-ID: <6A38AFC4493E45BB8A6CF3271C02EF2E@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <83pq2dooak.fsf@gnu.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac3ZVyWchwlwhKYoTlCTBumDxcjkiwAAbJYQ X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13159 Cc: 13159@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) > If you invoke this function non-interactively, pass it a non-nil value > as the 2nd argument. That should shut up any messages from this > function or the subroutines it calls.... > Does this solve your problem? Good point, Eli. And I do use that arg in many places. I guess the problem here is that I do want actual warnings to be printed (to *Messages*), but: 1. "Note: File is write-protected" is NOT a warning - it's just some extra information - note the "Note:". 2. Such information about a particular file is anyway useless in a messages log if it does not include the file name. IOW, in this case, I would want warnings to be logged, and I would want them to indicate the files that had problems. I don't need to log extra informational notices, and I don't need to log even warnings that do not help users because they don't mention the problematic file. So thanks for pointing that out, but I think the proper fix here is to: a. not have parameter NOWARN treat non-warning messages the same as warnings and, b. especially, add the file name to all file-specific messages, including warnings. Does that make sense? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 13 13:09:36 2012 Received: (at 13159) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2012 18:09:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41232 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TjDE0-0007XS-2C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:09:36 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:56899) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TjDDy-0007XJ-3R for 13159@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:09:34 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MEZ00400EA0XS00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 13159@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:08:32 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MEZ004K0EE7TC40@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:08:32 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:08:30 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13159: 24.3.50; `find-file-noselect' should not display or log messages In-reply-to: <6A38AFC4493E45BB8A6CF3271C02EF2E@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83hanpome9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83pq2dooak.fsf@gnu.org> <6A38AFC4493E45BB8A6CF3271C02EF2E@us.oracle.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <13159@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:46:18 -0800 > > a. not have parameter NOWARN treat non-warning messages the same as warnings > and, > > b. especially, add the file name to all file-specific messages, including > warnings. > > Does that make sense? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <13159@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:46:18 -0800 > > a. not have parameter NOWARN treat non-warning messages the same as warnings > and, > > b. especially, add the file name to all file-specific messages, including > warnings. > > Does that make sense? [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.169 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4310] > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <13159@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:46:18 -0800 > > a. not have parameter NOWARN treat non-warning messages the same as warnings > and, > > b. especially, add the file name to all file-specific messages, including > warnings. > > Does that make sense? Could be some additional value of NOWARN, perhaps. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 13:39:26 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 17:39:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avpuQ-0000Fk-8B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:39:26 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:33320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avpuO-0000Fc-OG for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:39:25 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avpuM-0005ns-F8 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 19:39:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 19:39:22 +0200 Message-Id: <87r3dp63at.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13159 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) forcemerge 13159 8180 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 01 13:59:11 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2016 17:59:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awveB-00061q-Bz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 13:59:11 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:40201) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awve9-00061h-CK for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 13:59:09 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awve7-0000rg-2R for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 May 2016 19:59:08 +0200 Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 19:59:06 +0200 Message-Id: <87k2jdzml1.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #8180 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 8180 wontfix close 8180 From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:23:01 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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