From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:54:21 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#13139 <13139@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#13139 <13139@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; vc-git: Suppress load message Reply-To: bug#13139 <13139@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:54:21 +0000 retitle 13139 24.3.50; vc-git: Suppress load message reassign 13139 emacs submitter 13139 Christopher Schmidt severity 13139 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 11 09:32:41 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2012 14:32:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36680 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQsx-00008W-Q9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:32:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56291) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQsq-00008L-TC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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filename=vc-git-suppress-load-msg.diff === modified file 'lisp/ChangeLog' --- lisp/ChangeLog 2012-12-11 07:49:06 +0000 +++ lisp/ChangeLog 2012-12-11 14:28:26 +0000 @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ +2012-12-11 Christopher Schmidt + + * vc/vc-git.el (vc-git-registered): Suppress load message of + vc-git. + 2012-12-11 Eli Zaretskii * makefile.w32-in (compile4-SH): Fix a typo that caused term === modified file 'lisp/vc/vc-git.el' --- lisp/vc/vc-git.el 2012-11-30 07:43:05 +0000 +++ lisp/vc/vc-git.el 2012-12-11 14:16:15 +0000 @@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ ;;;###autoload "Return non-nil if FILE is registered with git." ;;;###autoload (if (vc-find-root file ".git") ; Short cut. ;;;###autoload (progn -;;;###autoload (load "vc-git") +;;;###autoload (load "vc-git" nil t) ;;;###autoload (vc-git-registered file)))) (defun vc-git-registered (file) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Christopher --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 11 09:46:28 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2012 14:46:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiR6K-0000Ru-BO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:44:45 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13139: 24.3.50; vc-git: Suppress load message References: <87obi0zmm7@ch.ristopher.com> X-Yow: Finally, Zippy drives his 1958 RAMBLER METROPOLITAN into the faculty dining room. Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:44:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87obi0zmm7@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:31:20 +0000 (GMT)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Christopher Schmidt writes: > + * vc/vc-git.el (vc-git-registered): Suppress load message of > + vc-git. Why only vc-git? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." 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vc-git: Suppress load message In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:44:45 +0100") Message-ID: <87boe08wpx@ch.ristopher.com> References: <87obi0zmm7@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:55:14 +0000 (GMT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Andreas Schwab writes: > Christopher Schmidt writes: > >> + * vc/vc-git.el (vc-git-registered): Suppress load message of >> + vc-git. > > Why only vc-git? :D --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=vc-suppress-load-msg.diff === modified file 'lisp/ChangeLog' --- lisp/ChangeLog 2012-12-11 07:49:06 +0000 +++ lisp/ChangeLog 2012-12-11 14:51:07 +0000 @@ -1,3 +1,13 @@ +2012-12-11 Christopher Schmidt + + * vc/vc-arch.el (vc-arch-registered): + * vc/vc-bzr.el (vc-bzr-registered): + * vc/vc-cvs.el (vc-cvs-registered): + * vc/vc-git.el (vc-git-registered): + * vc/vc-hg.el (vc-hg-registered): + * vc/vc-mtn.el (vc-mtn-registered): + * vc/vc-svn.el (vc-svn-registered): Suppress load messages. + 2012-12-11 Eli Zaretskii * makefile.w32-in (compile4-SH): Fix a typo that caused term === modified file 'lisp/vc/vc-arch.el' --- lisp/vc/vc-arch.el 2012-07-11 23:13:41 +0000 +++ lisp/vc/vc-arch.el 2012-12-11 14:48:36 +0000 @@ -101,7 +101,7 @@ ;;;###autoload (defun vc-arch-registered (file) ;;;###autoload (if (vc-find-root file "{arch}/=tagging-method") ;;;###autoload (progn -;;;###autoload (load "vc-arch") +;;;###autoload (load "vc-arch" nil t) ;;;###autoload (vc-arch-registered file)))) (defun vc-arch-add-tagline () === modified file 'lisp/vc/vc-bzr.el' --- lisp/vc/vc-bzr.el 2012-09-29 23:13:29 +0000 +++ lisp/vc/vc-bzr.el 2012-12-11 14:48:43 +0000 @@ -291,7 +291,7 @@ ;;;###autoload (defun vc-bzr-registered (file) ;;;###autoload (if (vc-find-root file vc-bzr-admin-checkout-format-file) ;;;###autoload (progn -;;;###autoload (load "vc-bzr") +;;;###autoload (load "vc-bzr" nil t) ;;;###autoload (vc-bzr-registered file)))) (defun vc-bzr-registered (file) === modified file 'lisp/vc/vc-cvs.el' --- lisp/vc/vc-cvs.el 2012-08-29 15:11:51 +0000 +++ lisp/vc/vc-cvs.el 2012-12-11 14:48:40 +0000 @@ -198,7 +198,7 @@ ;;;###autoload "Return non-nil if file F is registered with CVS." ;;;###autoload (when (file-readable-p (expand-file-name ;;;###autoload "CVS/Entries" (file-name-directory f))) -;;;###autoload (load "vc-cvs") +;;;###autoload (load "vc-cvs" nil t) ;;;###autoload (vc-cvs-registered f))) (defun vc-cvs-registered (file) === modified file 'lisp/vc/vc-git.el' --- lisp/vc/vc-git.el 2012-11-30 07:43:05 +0000 +++ lisp/vc/vc-git.el 2012-12-11 14:16:15 +0000 @@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ ;;;###autoload "Return non-nil if FILE is registered with git." ;;;###autoload (if (vc-find-root file ".git") ; Short cut. ;;;###autoload (progn -;;;###autoload (load "vc-git") +;;;###autoload (load "vc-git" nil t) ;;;###autoload (vc-git-registered file)))) (defun vc-git-registered (file) === modified file 'lisp/vc/vc-hg.el' --- lisp/vc/vc-hg.el 2012-12-05 01:49:31 +0000 +++ lisp/vc/vc-hg.el 2012-12-11 14:48:34 +0000 @@ -176,7 +176,7 @@ ;;;###autoload "Return non-nil if FILE is registered with hg." ;;;###autoload (if (vc-find-root file ".hg") ; short cut ;;;###autoload (progn -;;;###autoload (load "vc-hg") +;;;###autoload (load "vc-hg" nil t) ;;;###autoload (vc-hg-registered file)))) ;; Modeled after the similar function in vc-bzr.el === modified file 'lisp/vc/vc-mtn.el' --- lisp/vc/vc-mtn.el 2012-08-15 19:20:26 +0000 +++ lisp/vc/vc-mtn.el 2012-12-11 14:48:30 +0000 @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ ;;;###autoload (defun vc-mtn-registered (file) ;;;###autoload (if (vc-find-root file vc-mtn-admin-format) ;;;###autoload (progn -;;;###autoload (load "vc-mtn") +;;;###autoload (load "vc-mtn" nil t) ;;;###autoload (vc-mtn-registered file)))) (defun vc-mtn-revision-granularity () 'repository) === modified file 'lisp/vc/vc-svn.el' --- lisp/vc/vc-svn.el 2012-11-18 01:52:36 +0000 +++ lisp/vc/vc-svn.el 2012-12-11 14:48:24 +0000 @@ -123,7 +123,7 @@ ;;;###autoload "_svn") ;;;###autoload (t ".svn")))) ;;;###autoload (when (vc-find-root f admin-dir) -;;;###autoload (load "vc-svn") +;;;###autoload (load "vc-svn" nil t) ;;;###autoload (vc-svn-registered f)))) (defun vc-svn-registered (file) --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 11 12:06:40 2012 Received: (at 13139) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2012 17:06:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37390 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTI0-000491-Lr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:06:40 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTHy-00048v-Qz for 13139@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:06:39 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTHH-0000Wx-5B; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:05:55 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 13139@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13139: 24.3.50; vc-git: Suppress load message References: <87obi0zmm7@ch.ristopher.com> X-Spook: Merlin NASA Firefly Croatian CNCIS SAPO computer X-Ran: Hd1faV=@,SPh#ju#goF6yo[`~6">wyE-c&T3(g4J]c`a+HY\RH}W^hh&t%j/CE,;de>i]n X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:05:54 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13139 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Andreas Schwab wrote: > Christopher Schmidt writes: > >> + * vc/vc-git.el (vc-git-registered): Suppress load message of >> + vc-git. > > Why only vc-git? The more obvious question is: why do this at all? I can only assume "because I found it slightly irritating", which doesn't seem like a good reason to me. I'd say that the loading message is a slightly useful diagnostic, eg in case something goes unexpectedly wrong. It's a once-per-session message, so surely it's easy to ignore if it bothers you. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 11 12:47:12 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2012 17:47:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37416 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTvD-0005B2-VE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:47:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTvA-0005At-8y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:47:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTuL-0001Lh-Hi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:46:25 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:49349) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTuL-0001LZ-Dp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:46:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51608) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTuC-00024A-4b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:46:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTu9-0001GE-17 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:46:07 -0500 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:36260 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTu8-0001Fm-PS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:46:04 -0500 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 038C721506; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:46:01 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1355247961; bh=tM/3HeKkaUYO8Xm1B6f7OFTe3sovZ3t9/kc6QY4rKsM=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=ZGDeLxW52uLC8e7nIY8GcVWmNsn+GrDMdbOMROEFA1NSd3LwrI+28IMjrU4+6iRR7 eqsAC/WhgVxAjA3BTg65Exm3PBO92gCO5GLRC9W/9hhDH5dxfNnw6+CgLI7gyJKuK/ /SvdL7Ey+QkN1khMQtel9+W8YjJa1I4MIIsu3t3I= From: Christopher Schmidt To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13139: 24.3.50; vc-git: Suppress load message In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:05:54 -0500") Message-ID: <87zk1k1nz4@ch.ristopher.com> References: <87obi0zmm7@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:46:00 +0000 (GMT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Glenn Morris writes: > Andreas Schwab wrote: > >> Christopher Schmidt writes: >> >>> + * vc/vc-git.el (vc-git-registered): Suppress load message of >>> + vc-git. >> >> Why only vc-git? > > The more obvious question is: why do this at all? I can only assume > "because I found it slightly irritating", which doesn't seem like a ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's it. The message does not provide any value to me and it might override previous messages which are actually important. > good reason to me. I'd say that the loading message is a slightly > useful diagnostic, eg in case something goes unexpectedly wrong. It's > a once-per-session message, so surely it's easy to ignore if it > bothers you. How is this message useful in case something goes wrong? Christopher From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 11 14:04:38 2012 Received: (at 13139) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2012 19:04:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37489 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiV8A-00085c-9R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:04:38 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:24705) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiV88-00085V-IC for 13139@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:04:37 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09soXOY/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBwFugmQRAOIQppxgViDBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="209627130" Received: from 108-161-115-152.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.115.152]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 11 Dec 2012 14:03:53 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1FE8358C73; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:03:53 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#13139: 24.3.50; vc-git: Suppress load message Message-ID: References: <87obi0zmm7@ch.ristopher.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:03:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:05:54 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13139 Cc: 13139@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > The more obvious question is: why do this at all? I guess for consistency with all other loading messages, since we "recently" made autoloads slient; and also since vc-hooks.el can also trigger loading of vc-BACKEND.el but if it does, it does it via `require' rather than `load', so it's also silent in that case. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 13 04:00:35 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2013 09:00:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57674 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuJQg-0001HP-5N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:00:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37161) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuJQd-0001HC-KV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:00:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuJQ9-0000Lm-I7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:00:09 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:52690) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuJQ9-0000Li-G0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:00:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuJQ5-0000Vx-TD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:00:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuJQ2-0000Gg-9j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:59:57 -0500 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:41860 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuJQ2-0000Fn-3Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:59:54 -0500 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 3B4E7203F6; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:59:52 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1358067592; bh=1j+jK0UA7eJ2baTlKXajfJEMJh+k7xfcDoH84A2p/+k=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=Wn/d75AbL0Tlr0GCyf1zspO0cLzRwfKEwMGqWgLHZ6iOWEq3+MEQejVvgMhsfE7p1 eCg9JJg0Y4Q0BuXcA8WRLd3GqF9YGogPycLk2i6hjiWZedjEDL644xSODI+kZpwYcI 9YQXuIzdpyA21EsbGmBI1YpOjwBJqBduc1vpv8N8= From: Christopher Schmidt To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13139: 24.3.50; vc-git: Suppress load message In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:03:53 -0500") Message-ID: <87hamlwj90@ch.ristopher.com> References: <87obi0zmm7@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:59:52 +0000 (GMT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Stefan Monnier writes: >> The more obvious question is: why do this at all? > > I guess for consistency with all other loading messages, since we > "recently" made autoloads slient; and also since vc-hooks.el can also > trigger loading of vc-BACKEND.el but if it does, it does it via > `require' rather than `load', so it's also silent in that case. Ping? It would be great if someone applied my patch (attached to <87boe08wpx@ch.ristopher.com>) or got me green light so I can apply it myself. Christopher From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 13 09:23:42 2013 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2013 14:23:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57827 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuOTN-0001De-VH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TuOTL-0001DQ-D2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuOSu-0005KK-CQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:15 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:39447) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuOSu-0005KG-8v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57355) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuOSs-0007jA-21 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuOSp-0005Jk-DM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:09 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:3336) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TuOSp-0005Jd-9C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:07 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkGAG6Zu09FpZpV/2dsb2JhbABEgXuyFoEIghUBAQQBVjMLNBIUGA03iAkFugmNJoMeA4hCmnGBWIMH X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="212417092" Received: from 69-165-154-85.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.154.85]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 13 Jan 2013 09:23:06 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BD71B592A5; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:05 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13139: 24.3.50; vc-git: Suppress load message Message-ID: References: <87obi0zmm7@ch.ristopher.com> <87hamlwj90@ch.ristopher.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87hamlwj90@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:59:52 +0000 (GMT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) >>> The more obvious question is: why do this at all? >> I guess for consistency with all other loading messages, since we >> "recently" made autoloads slient; and also since vc-hooks.el can also >> trigger loading of vc-BACKEND.el but if it does, it does it via >> `require' rather than `load', so it's also silent in that case. > Ping? > It would be great if someone applied my patch (attached to > <87boe08wpx@ch.ristopher.com>) or got me green light so I can apply it > myself. Go ahead for this one (the other ones should come soon), Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 01 12:35:47 2013 Received: (at 13139-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2013 17:35:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59515 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U1KWh-0007zV-6e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 12:35:47 -0500 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:35700 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U1KWf-0007zO-0X for 13139-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 12:35:46 -0500 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 3238120433; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:34:54 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1359740094; bh=HL/W1xx/STaLrjqQuRe+CgVKIjGdaKjcRQb5c6d+9jM=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=kbmMm94jJx7Pdan9cyzFQWlcJFc2yA+MHDqCI1RolBDTwEp5D1Zzc6pePSJkGKNQZ UOMVMx/DBBJ+3oR+k3AMUVSHDCWaDZwODqdHw/rtuz2O41RibhOqN51fPoqV8uUiTm HOcY2WyuQRsP91CXo6TjXVz66o69DWy12HsuZ7co= From: Christopher Schmidt To: 13139-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13139: 24.3.50; vc-git: Suppress load message In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:05 -0500") Message-ID: <878v78c4zn@ch.ristopher.com> References: <87obi0zmm7@ch.ristopher.com> <87hamlwj90@ch.ristopher.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:34:54 +0000 (GMT) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13139-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Stefan Monnier writes: >> It would be great if someone applied my patch (attached to >> <87boe08wpx@ch.ristopher.com>) or got me green light so I can apply >> it myself. > > Go ahead for this one (the other ones should come soon), Thank you. Installed in trunk. Christopher From unknown Mon Aug 11 12:54:21 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 12:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator