From unknown Fri Aug 15 04:04:00 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#13114 <13114@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#13114 <13114@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; can no longer use debugger in separate frame: frame disappears Reply-To: bug#13114 <13114@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:04:00 +0000 retitle 13114 24.3.50; can no longer use debugger in separate frame: frame = disappears reassign 13114 emacs submitter 13114 "Drew Adams" severity 13114 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 11:49:29 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 16:49:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th17A-0006sT-0z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:49:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51382) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th177-0006sM-Lf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:49:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th16m-0001mf-Rt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:49:06 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:41087) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th16m-0001mb-On for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:49:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34503) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th16g-0005Wb-RD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:49:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th16f-0001ll-FF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:48:58 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:25079) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th16f-0001lb-8n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:48:57 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qB7Gmsjg023189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:48:55 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7Gmsf0019694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:48:54 GMT Received: from abhmt108.oracle.com (abhmt108.oracle.com [141.146.116.60]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qB7GmrBp020966 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:48:53 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.136.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:48:53 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.3.50; can no longer use debugger in separate frame: frame disappears Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:48:49 -0800 Message-ID: <05F0A173A3F94262B87D29BB14B9B073@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac3UmrtBgFTGZyg9SQWSooJHMLF4Kw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) This problem or something very similar appeared several months back, when Martin was working on fixing some display-buffer problems - see bug #8789. I thought this was fixed, but recently it seems to be back. I use a separate, special-display frame for *Backtrace* (and for other buffers whose names are of the form `*...*'). Frame *Backtrace* gets created OK (but once it did not - a weird error was raised - see bug #13113). But as soon as I click any part of it with the mouse (e.g. mouse-1), that frame disappears completely. I cannot use the debugger at all. Here was what I said in bug #8789, for info: Sometimes I can grab the border of the *Backtrace* frame, as usual, and resize it (even though it goes back to the default size when I hit `d', as describedearlier). But sometimes I cannot: as soon as I touch the mouse to the frame edge and try to drag it, the frame disappears! I can just touch it (e.g. click it) without it disappearing, but as soon as I try to drag the touched edge, the frame disappears. It does not matter which edge (e.g. bottom or right) I try to drag. No idea what is going on here - I have never seen anything like this. This happpens systematically when I enter the debugger in a certain context, and it never seems to happen otherwise. But that context is far too complex to try to communicate. Suffice it to say that this happens. When it happens I see nothing additional in *Messages*, and there is no crash. The *Backtrace* frame just disappears, and the mode line indicates that I am no longer in a recursive edit - IOW, the debugger is exited. And if I explicitly visit buffer *Backtrace*, I see that it is indeed empty. It is as if trying to drag the frame edge is (sometimes) the equivalent of hitting `q' in the debugger. But now it is not only trying to drag the frame border that causes this. Any mouse click on the frame, anywhere, causes it. I mention that older bug here because Martin apparently recognized the frame-disappearance problem (& cause?). He immediately replied: "This should have changed now." And indeed, it did seem to be fixed. IOW, presumably he or someone else made some change that helped. I'm hoping that the same or similar fix can be made now, or at least that that previous bug report will help someone fix this current problem. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-12-03 on MS-W7-DANI Bzr revision: 111077 agustin.martin@hispalinux.es-20121203172342-ifsebjmhksk28qa9 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/src -Ic:/emacs/libs/libpng-1.2.37-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/zlib-1.2.5 -Ic:/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -Ic:/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9-w32-bin/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.9.2-1-lib/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 02:34:09 2014 Received: (at 13114) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 07:34:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33879 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WClNY-0003QD-P8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:34:09 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:37932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WClNW-0003Q3-3O for 13114@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 02:34:06 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WClNA-0000gW-St; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:33:49 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#13114: 24.3.50; can no longer use debugger in separate frame: frame disappears References: <05F0A173A3F94262B87D29BB14B9B073@us.oracle.com> Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:32:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: <05F0A173A3F94262B87D29BB14B9B073@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:48:49 -0800") Message-ID: <87ob2f1kz4.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WClNA-0000gW-St X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392622432.37022@Tj1K+afpkTw1N/pY5ng/MA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13114 Cc: 13114@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > This problem or something very similar appeared several months back, > when Martin was working on fixing some display-buffer problems - see bug > #8789. I thought this was fixed, but recently it seems to be back. > > I use a separate, special-display frame for *Backtrace* (and for other > buffers whose names are of the form `*...*'). > > Frame *Backtrace* gets created OK (but once it did not - a weird error > was raised - see bug #13113). But as soon as I click any part of it > with the mouse (e.g. mouse-1), that frame disappears completely. > > I cannot use the debugger at all. Lots of work has been done in this area. Are you still seeing this bug? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 13:47:13 2014 Received: (at 13114) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 18:47:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41729 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCvsv-0001XZ-9W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:47:13 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:21736) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCvss-0001XI-Jg for 13114@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:47:11 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1AIl4WJ028643 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:47:04 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AIl3VS026325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:47:03 GMT Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1AIl37V026317; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:47:03 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1cf0f373-d5bb-4322-b9a2-f88e602d22e6@default> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:47:02 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#13114: 24.3.50; can no longer use debugger in separate frame: frame disappears References: <05F0A173A3F94262B87D29BB14B9B073@us.oracle.com> <87ob2f1kz4.fsf@building.gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87ob2f1kz4.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13114 Cc: 13114@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) > Lots of work has been done in this area. Are you still seeing this > bug? No, I think it can be close. Thx. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 10 22:59:49 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2014 03:59:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42296 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WD4Vg-0001zX-RF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:59:49 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:52697) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WD4Ve-0001zO-Ap for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:59:47 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WD4VO-0005Qt-S8 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 04:59:31 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:58:15 -0800 Message-Id: <87ha86qp0o.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13114 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WD4VO-0005Qt-S8 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392695971.37246@XAw3KlNnSjQZpkPKMfAgdg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 13114 From unknown Fri Aug 15 04:04:00 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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