From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 08:31:04 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 13:31:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgy18-0001Au-OB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:31:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44177) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgy13-0001AR-MV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:31:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgy0e-0006gU-FM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:30:38 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST, RP_MATCHES_RCVD, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:51927) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgy0e-0006gQ-Ch for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:30:32 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55493) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgy0Y-0003IT-AE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:30:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgy0N-0006cT-44 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:30:26 -0500 Received: from limestone4.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.164]:52681) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tgy0M-0006Y7-W6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:30:15 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from orchid.mail.cornell.edu (orchid.mail.cornell.edu [132.236.56.61]) by limestone4.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7D4YQj025234 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by orchid.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7D4bn0019025 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id qB7D4aQv019786 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 08:04:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:04:01 -0500 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.7.125116 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Fri Dec 7 08:04:37 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows NT kernel [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) The cygw32 build of emacs tries to use many X11 features if the builder has the appropriate development packages installed. For example, HAVE_GSETTINGS and HAVE_GCONF will be defined. This causes serious problems, as detailed starting at http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-12/msg00070.html In GNU Emacs 24.2.90.1 (i686-pc-cygwin) of 2012-11-27 on desktop-new Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 0.0.0 Configured using: `configure '--srcdir=/home/kbrown/src/cygemacs/emacs-24.2.90-1/src/emacs-24.2.90' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--sbindir=/usr/sbin' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--datarootdir=/usr/share' '--docdir=/usr/share/doc/emacs' '-C' '--with-w32' 'CC=gcc' 'CFLAGS=-ggdb -O2 -pipe -fdebug-prefix-map=/home/kbrown/src/cygemacs/emacs-24.2.90-1/build=/usr/src/debug/emacs-24.2.90-1 -fdebug-prefix-map=/home/kbrown/src/cygemacs/emacs-24.2.90-1/src/emacs-24.2.90=/usr/src/debug/emacs-24.2.90-1' 'LDFLAGS=-L/usr/lib/ncursesw' 'LIBS=' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/ncursesw'' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t temp-buffer-resize-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r Recent messages: Loading /home/kbrown/emacs/.custom-24.el (source)... 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Features: (shadow gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message cl-macs gv format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils dired edmacro kmacro solar cal-dst planner-diary cl diary-lib diary-loaddefs planner-publish muse-xml planner cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs sort muse-colors muse-latex muse-html muse-xml-common cus-edit muse-publish muse-project muse-protocols muse-regexps wid-edit derived muse muse-nested-tags muse-mode muse-autoloads info easymenu package preview-latex tex-site auto-loads saveplace uniquify advice help-fns cl-lib advice-preload paren help-at-pt time delsel cus-start cus-load time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel w32-common-fns disp-table w32-win w32-vars tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind w32 multi-tty emacs) *** E-Mail body has been placed on clipboard, please paste it here! *** From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 09:46:55 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 14:46:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58140 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TgzCZ-0002sM-FP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 09:46:55 -0500 Received: from limestone4.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.164]:60568) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TgzCU-0002sD-Q1 for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 09:46:52 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.143]) by limestone4.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7EkKau001198; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7EkS1G008330; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:46:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.84.234.164] (dijon.math.cornell.edu [128.84.234.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id qB7EkNLa007853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 7 Dec 2012 09:46:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50C2010D.3090606@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 09:45:33 -0500 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 13112@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.7.143620 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Fri Dec 7 09:46:24 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112 Cc: Daniel Colascione X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On 12/7/2012 8:04 AM, Ken Brown wrote: > The cygw32 build of emacs tries to use many X11 features if the builder > has the appropriate development packages installed. For example, > HAVE_GSETTINGS and HAVE_GCONF will be defined. This causes serious > problems, as detailed starting at > > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-12/msg00070.html A workaround is to add the configure options --with-x=no and --without-xim, but it shouldn't be hard to modify the configure script so that these options are implied by --with-w32. I don't know enough about autoconf to immediately see how to do that. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 13:01:32 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 18:01:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59195 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2Et-000090-Jb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:01:32 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:46361) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2Er-00008s-5J for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:01:30 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2EW-0000Nx-8D; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:01:08 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Ken Brown Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> X-Spook: SAPO Abbas Hamas S Key csystems Belknap Rumsfeld Ft. Knox X-Ran: T2o`1P}0w-_15=CY)Es%H)cZUEyqvJI2nL\h&L*Emt@uuQDq:un|P]O:l&uD=-Xt>jK#2U X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:01:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> (Ken Brown's message of "Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:04:01 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112 Cc: 13112@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Ken Brown wrote: > The cygw32 build of emacs tries to use many X11 features if the builder > has the appropriate development packages installed. For example, > HAVE_GSETTINGS and HAVE_GCONF will be defined. I don't see how that is possible. configure does: if test "${HAVE_W32}" = "yes"; then window_system=w32 [...] fi [...] HAVE_X11=no case "${window_system}" in x11 ) HAVE_X11=yes [...] w32 ) [...] esac [...] HAVE_GSETTINGS=no if test "${HAVE_X11}" = "yes" && test "${with_gsettings}" = "yes"; then ... fi So I think you need to provide more details. > http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-12/msg00070.html This talks about dbus. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 13:25:23 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 18:25:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59214 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2by-0000gk-GN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:25:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45494) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2bv-0000gc-Ip for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:25:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2ba-0003S9-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:24:59 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:53530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2ba-0003S5-T1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:24:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2bZ-00052n-C6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:24:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2bY-0003Rl-2D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:24:57 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2bX-0003RW-RX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:24:55 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2bf-0008Tf-J8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:25:03 +0100 Received: from pd9eb478a.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.235.71.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:25:03 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb478a.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:25:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:24:42 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 15 Message-ID: <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb478a.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:rC/VzHDjWQFEdiCD2k1eSQXSJ5A= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Glenn Morris writes: >> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-12/msg00070.html > > This talks about dbus. Which is involved, but as it turns out not responsible. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 13:41:09 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 18:41:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2rF-00013O-0d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:41:09 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:46988) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2rC-00013H-Re for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:41:07 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th2qr-0006nZ-On; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:40:45 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-Spook: Adriatic Exon Shell New World Order Abu Ghraib gamma X-Ran: ]"7S| (Achim Gratz's message of "Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:24:42 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112 Cc: 13112@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Achim Gratz wrote: > Glenn Morris writes: >>> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-12/msg00070.html >> >> This talks about dbus. > > Which is involved, but as it turns out not responsible. Maybe you could summarize what the actual problem is, then. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 14:19:01 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 19:19:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59263 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3Rs-0001wO-TR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:19:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57472) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3Rq-0001wH-5s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:18:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3RU-0000ZA-Q7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:18:37 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:55081) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3RU-0000Z5-Md for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:18:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40589) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3RM-0001v3-E2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:18:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3RI-0000XR-3q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:18:28 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49707) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3RH-0000XC-T9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:18:24 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3RS-0001b4-Ly for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:18:34 +0100 Received: from pd9eb527a.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.235.82.122]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:18:34 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb527a.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:18:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:18:12 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 29 Message-ID: <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb527a.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2WtcYN9LZr8d3qEDXkAYCeWUJ4w= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Glenn Morris writes: > Maybe you could summarize what the actual problem is, then. The problem, as far as I have been able to determine, is that my init file set a default font that does only exist in X11 but not Windows, so it was illegal for the cygw32 build, but somehow that managed to sneak past Emacs' guards and apparently activated X11 code paths that should not have been in there to begin with. This then made Emacs hang whenever it should display UI dialogs (like the file chooser). Interestingly if dbus was started then somehow everything kept working (I had to manually switch the font from the first in the list, which happened to be Arial, to something fixed-width). If I remove the default font customization in my .emacs or arrange for that font to be a Windows font (or simply start "emacs -Q"), then it does not matter whether or not dbus has been started, so I'd say it is a red herring as far as this bug report is concerned. I'm using the test version that Ken has provided, so I can't answer any questions on how the build has been configured. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 16:24:25 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 21:24:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59363 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th5PE-0004pq-QV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:24:25 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:61163) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th5PC-0004pi-FQ for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:24:23 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MEO00E00J5PC300@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:23:33 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MEO00D2XJF9U3B0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:23:33 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:23:16 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 In-reply-to: <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Achim Gratz Message-id: <83pq2lmu9n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:18:12 +0100 > > Glenn Morris writes: > > Maybe you could summarize what the actual problem is, then. > > The problem, as far as I have been able to determine, is that my init > file set a default font that does only exist in X11 but not Windows, so > it was illegal for the cygw32 build, but somehow that managed to sneak > past Emacs' guards and apparently activated X11 code paths that should > not have been in there to begin with. This then made Emacs hang > whenever it should display UI dialogs (like the file chooser). 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This then made Emacs hang > whenever it should display UI dialogs (like the file chooser). Are you saying that xterm.c, xfns.c, and xmenu.c are compiled into a cygw32 Emacs? They shouldn't, AFAIU. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 16:32:50 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 21:32:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59376 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th5XM-00052Z-QQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:32:49 -0500 Received: from limestone8.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.168]:34018) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th5XK-00052S-WB for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:32:48 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.143]) by limestone8.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7LWPLk020484; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7LWUtx003643; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id qB7LWNbE024787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:32:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50C2605F.4000207@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:32:15 -0500 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> In-Reply-To: <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.7.211819 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Fri Dec 7 16:32:24 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112 Cc: Glenn Morris , 13112@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On 12/7/2012 2:18 PM, Achim Gratz wrote: > Glenn Morris writes: >> Maybe you could summarize what the actual problem is, then. > > The problem, as far as I have been able to determine, is that my init > file set a default font that does only exist in X11 but not Windows, so > it was illegal for the cygw32 build, but somehow that managed to sneak > past Emacs' guards and apparently activated X11 code paths that should > not have been in there to begin with. This then made Emacs hang > whenever it should display UI dialogs (like the file chooser). > > Interestingly if dbus was started then somehow everything kept working > (I had to manually switch the font from the first in the list, which > happened to be Arial, to something fixed-width). If I remove the > default font customization in my .emacs or arrange for that font to be a > Windows font (or simply start "emacs -Q"), then it does not matter > whether or not dbus has been started, so I'd say it is a red herring as > far as this bug report is concerned. > > I'm using the test version that Ken has provided, so I can't answer any > questions on how the build has been configured. The configure options can be seen in my original bug report. It turns out that I must have done something stupid when I claimed that HAVE_GSETTINGS and HAVE_GCONF were defined. I can no longer reproduce that, so Glenn is right. At this point I don't know whether or not there is an emacs bug here. I'm sorry for the confusion I caused. So let's start from scratch. Can you give a detailed, step-by-step procedure for reproducing the problem? I'd like to see if I can reproduce it. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 16:46:02 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 21:46:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th5kA-0005Oh-2W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:46:02 -0500 Received: from limestone8.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.168]:46268) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th5k8-0005OK-AI for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:46:01 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.143]) by limestone8.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7Ljdww028870; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB7LjiZv007207; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id qB7LjcVg027149 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 7 Dec 2012 16:45:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50C26379.40408@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:45:29 -0500 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83pq2lmu9n.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83pq2lmu9n.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.7.213621 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Fri Dec 7 16:45:38 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112 Cc: 13112@debbugs.gnu.org, Achim Gratz X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On 12/7/2012 4:23 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Achim Gratz >> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:18:12 +0100 >> >> Glenn Morris writes: >>> Maybe you could summarize what the actual problem is, then. >> >> The problem, as far as I have been able to determine, is that my init >> file set a default font that does only exist in X11 but not Windows, so >> it was illegal for the cygw32 build, but somehow that managed to sneak >> past Emacs' guards and apparently activated X11 code paths that should >> not have been in there to begin with. This then made Emacs hang >> whenever it should display UI dialogs (like the file chooser). > > Are you saying that xterm.c, xfns.c, and xmenu.c are compiled into a > cygw32 Emacs? They shouldn't, AFAIU. They're not. I've caused some confusion, and we need to start from scratch. See my previous message. Ken Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 07 17:36:48 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2012 22:36:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59524 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6XH-0006a6-RB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:36:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37667) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6XF-0006Zz-7i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:36:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6Wt-0003ar-DY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:36:24 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:55935) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6Wt-0003an-AN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:36:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6Wr-0006np-VY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:36:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6Wo-0003aK-Rm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:36:21 -0500 Received: from dancol.org ([96.126.100.184]:52853) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6Wo-0003aG-M5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:36:18 -0500 Received: from c-76-22-66-162.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([76.22.66.162] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Th6Wn-00026c-In; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:36:17 -0800 Message-ID: <50C26F60.1090707@dancol.org> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:36:16 -0800 From: Daniel Colascione User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Burton Samograd Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig60C7F59F96D9D14C6807A504" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig60C7F59F96D9D14C6807A504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/7/12 2:19 PM, Burton Samograd wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >=20 >>> From: Achim Gratz >>> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:18:12 +0100 >>> >>> Glenn Morris writes: >>>> Maybe you could summarize what the actual problem is, then. >>> >>> The problem, as far as I have been able to determine, is that my init= >>> file set a default font that does only exist in X11 but not Windows, = so >>> it was illegal for the cygw32 build, but somehow that managed to snea= k >>> past Emacs' guards and apparently activated X11 code paths that shoul= d >>> not have been in there to begin with. This then made Emacs hang >>> whenever it should display UI dialogs (like the file chooser). >> >> Are you saying that xterm.c, xfns.c, and xmenu.c are compiled into a >> cygw32 Emacs? They shouldn't, AFAIU. >=20 > They are on my build, but I have the proper X11 headers and libraries > installed in my cygwin. I like it that way so I can display my emacs > with an x-server. But you didn't build Emacs with --with-w32, did you? As much as I'd like a single Emacs binary to support both X11 and W32, we're a long way away from there. --------------enig60C7F59F96D9D14C6807A504 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAlDCb2AACgkQ17c2LVA10Vu9aACgnEjDQ+Hb+vZnSFCrUXrJoMDU C6wAoME6oDtReK6PCyYGbff6viV/TH6c =4+wE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig60C7F59F96D9D14C6807A504-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 03:06:48 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2012 08:06:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59813 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThFQu-00080T-G8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:06:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54523) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThFQs-00080M-EB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:06:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThFQU-0007FJ-8V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:06:23 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:47494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThFQU-0007FE-6Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:06:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37630) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThFQS-0007b9-Ef for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:06:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThFQR-0007Ek-Ah for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:06:20 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:42246) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThFQR-0007Ec-3L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:06:19 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MEP00J00D4KVD00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 10:06:17 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MEP00JCTD6HI870@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 10:06:17 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 10:06:02 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 In-reply-to: <87d2ylxqdc.fsf@samograd.ca> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Burton Samograd Message-id: <83ehj1m0id.fsf@gnu.org> References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87d2ylxqdc.fsf@samograd.ca> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Burton Samograd > Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:51:59 -0700 > > >>> Are you saying that xterm.c, xfns.c, and xmenu.c are compiled into a > >>> cygw32 Emacs? They shouldn't, AFAIU. > >> > >> They are on my build, but I have the proper X11 headers and libraries > >> installed in my cygwin. I like it that way so I can display my emacs > >> with an x-server. > > > > But you didn't build Emacs with --with-w32, did you? As much as I'd > > like a single Emacs binary to support both X11 and W32, we're a long > > way away from there. > > No, I don't use --with-w32. Then yours is not the cygw32 build, and I was asking only about that. > I just wanted to make sure a feature I use didn't get removed from > the build :) How can you seriously think we would consider removing X11 support from Emacs? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 06:30:50 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2012 11:30:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIcL-000573-Jj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:30:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50169) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIcI-00056v-CV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:30:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIbs-000347-Jr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:30:22 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:49371) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIbs-000341-HG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:30:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIbq-00037t-Qk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:30:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIbj-00030w-Sg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:30:18 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43167) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIbj-0002xO-Lz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:30:11 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ThIbo-0006u4-SM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:30:16 +0100 Received: from pd9eb2d05.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.235.45.5]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:30:16 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb2d05.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:30:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 12:29:51 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 26 Message-ID: <87pq2k7pe8.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C2605F.4000207@cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb2d05.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ntWeMd+Qo1oZj5/9H99ZeAG5nUE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Ken Brown writes: > So let's start from scratch. Can you give a detailed, step-by-step > procedure for reproducing the problem? I'd like to see if I can > reproduce it. I'm not near any system running Windows, so I can't test it myself, but I hope the following will do: 1. Nix all configuration files, then start emacs-X11 and set the default font to "DejaVu Sans Mono" and "Save Options". Check that it got saved in the "(custom-set-faces" section in the appropriate init file. 2. Do not start X11 or dbus. From a freshly started mintty, start emacs-w32 so that it reads the configuration file with the default font. It should start with whatever font is the first one in your Windows font list instead of the default monospace font it would use when started with "-Q". Now try to select File->Open from the menu bar. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Q+, Q and microQ: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 07:24:25 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2012 12:24:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59995 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThJSC-0006Ls-Jl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:24:24 -0500 Received: from limestone3.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.163]:43062) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThJSA-0006Lj-2h for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:24:23 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.143]) by limestone3.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB8CNpfq013971 for <13112@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB8CO2Dh016470 for <13112@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id qB8CNteP015908 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:23:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50C33150.2060007@cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:23:44 -0500 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C2605F.4000207@cornell.edu> <87pq2k7pe8.fsf@Rainer.invalid> In-Reply-To: <87pq2k7pe8.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.8.121224 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Sat Dec 8 07:23:56 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112 Cc: 13112@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On 12/8/2012 6:29 AM, Achim Gratz wrote: > Ken Brown writes: >> So let's start from scratch. Can you give a detailed, step-by-step >> procedure for reproducing the problem? I'd like to see if I can >> reproduce it. > > I'm not near any system running Windows, so I can't test it myself, but > I hope the following will do: > > 1. Nix all configuration files, then start emacs-X11 and set the default > font to "DejaVu Sans Mono" and "Save Options". Check that it got saved in > the "(custom-set-faces" section in the appropriate init file. I've done that, and I now have a ~/.emacs with the following contents: (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(default ((t (:family "DejaVu Sans Mono" :foundry "unknown" :slant normal :weight normal :height 113 :width normal))))) And I've moved ~/.Xdefaults and /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp out of the way. ps shows no processes except mintty and bash. > 2. Do not start X11 or dbus. From a freshly started mintty, start > emacs-w32 so that it reads the configuration file with the default font. > It should start with whatever font is the first one in your Windows font > list instead of the default monospace font it would use when started > with "-Q". Now try to select File->Open from the menu bar. $ emacs-w32 & emacs-w32 opens in a new window. Options -> Set Default Font shows that emacs is using DejaVu Sans Mono-11. File -> Open works fine. I wonder why emacs-w32 finds DejaVu Sans Mono on my system but not on yours? I guess that's not really relevant to this bug, but it does mean that I can't currently reproduce the problem and so I can't debug it. If you can consistently reproduce it, I think you might have to do it under gdb (or attach gdb when emacs hangs) and see if you can figure out what's going on. I did reproduce the hang two nights ago (with different steps), but I was tired and making mistakes, and I don't remember exactly what I did. I know from previous discussions that you use tcsh as your shell. Could there be something in your tcsh configuration files that's interfering? Or is there anything in your environment that could explain this? Maybe you should try this from a bash shell and a clean environment. If you want to send me your cygcheck output off list, I can see if I spot any obvious differences between your system and mine. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 07:43:33 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2012 12:43:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60008 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThJkj-0007eU-4N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:43:33 -0500 Received: from limestone3.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.163]:51830) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThJkg-0007eM-No for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:43:32 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.143]) by limestone3.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB8Ch0Xl019308 for <13112@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB8ChBSJ018907 for <13112@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id qB8Ch4hY018828 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 8 Dec 2012 07:43:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50C335CE.109@cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:42:54 -0500 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C2605F.4000207@cornell.edu> <87pq2k7pe8.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C33150.2060007@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: <50C33150.2060007@cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.8.123042 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Sat Dec 8 07:43:05 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112 Cc: 13112@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On 12/8/2012 7:23 AM, Ken Brown wrote: > On 12/8/2012 6:29 AM, Achim Gratz wrote: >> Ken Brown writes: >>> So let's start from scratch. Can you give a detailed, step-by-step >>> procedure for reproducing the problem? I'd like to see if I can >>> reproduce it. >> >> I'm not near any system running Windows, so I can't test it myself, but >> I hope the following will do: >> >> 1. Nix all configuration files, then start emacs-X11 and set the default >> font to "DejaVu Sans Mono" and "Save Options". Check that it got >> saved in >> the "(custom-set-faces" section in the appropriate init file. > > I've done that, and I now have a ~/.emacs with the following contents: > > (custom-set-variables > ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > ) > (custom-set-faces > ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > '(default ((t (:family "DejaVu Sans Mono" :foundry "unknown" :slant > normal :weight normal :height 113 :width normal))))) > > And I've moved ~/.Xdefaults and /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp out of the > way. ps shows no processes except mintty and bash. > >> 2. Do not start X11 or dbus. From a freshly started mintty, start >> emacs-w32 so that it reads the configuration file with the default font. >> It should start with whatever font is the first one in your Windows font >> list instead of the default monospace font it would use when started >> with "-Q". Now try to select File->Open from the menu bar. > > $ emacs-w32 & > > emacs-w32 opens in a new window. Options -> Set Default Font shows that > emacs is using DejaVu Sans Mono-11. File -> Open works fine. > > I wonder why emacs-w32 finds DejaVu Sans Mono on my system but not on > yours? I guess that's not really relevant to this bug, but it does mean > that I can't currently reproduce the problem and so I can't debug it. If > you can consistently reproduce it, I think you might have to do it under > gdb (or attach gdb when emacs hangs) and see if you can figure out > what's going on. > > I did reproduce the hang two nights ago (with different steps), but I > was tired and making mistakes, and I don't remember exactly what I did. > > I know from previous discussions that you use tcsh as your shell. Could > there be something in your tcsh configuration files that's interfering? > Or is there anything in your environment that could explain this? > Maybe you should try this from a bash shell and a clean environment. If > you want to send me your cygcheck output off list, I can see if I spot > any obvious differences between your system and mine. I just repeated the experiment, but this time with Droid instead of DejaVu. This time emacs-w32 didn't find the font and chose Arial. But File->Open still worked. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 08:09:41 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2012 13:09:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60035 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThK9z-0008EF-As for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:09:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36075) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThK9w-0008E8-Un for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:09:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThK9X-000180-CE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:09:12 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:38989) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThK9X-00017w-8r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:09:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47437) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThK9W-0006Zf-7e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:09:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThK9V-00017l-09 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:09:10 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:39766) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThK9U-00017h-PV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:09:08 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ThK9c-0004lZ-Bf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:09:16 +0100 Received: from pd9eb5b28.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.235.91.40]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:09:16 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb5b28.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:09:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:08:53 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 20 Message-ID: <87ehj07kt6.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C2605F.4000207@cornell.edu> <87pq2k7pe8.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C33150.2060007@cornell.edu> <50C335CE.109@cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb5b28.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EbXVXwSh5Inu1fmohwGccxOxsLE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Ken Brown writes: > I just repeated the experiment, but this time with Droid instead of > DejaVu. This time emacs-w32 didn't find the font and chose Arial. OK, so that part seems to work the same way. > But File->Open still worked. Did it work after some delay or right away? When I've started dbus and tried this, I've only been getting the dialog after an initial delay of two or three seconds. Subsequent invocations didn't have that delay. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 09:11:49 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2012 14:11:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60065 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThL88-0001Bh-Hd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:11:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51434) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThL85-0001BY-Og for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:11:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThL7f-00009F-NZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:11:20 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:55806) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThL7f-00009B-KJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:11:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34563) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThL7e-0004d3-F8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:11:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThL7d-000090-03 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:11:18 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60906) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThL7c-00008r-Pk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 09:11:16 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ThL7j-0006cW-39 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 15:11:23 +0100 Received: from pd9eb5b28.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.235.91.40]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 15:11:23 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb5b28.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 15:11:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 15:10:56 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 40 Message-ID: <87a9to7hxr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C2605F.4000207@cornell.edu> <87pq2k7pe8.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C33150.2060007@cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb5b28.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dfKgDM5T/vQXUcwUvD4RuepY+wg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Ken Brown writes: > I wonder why emacs-w32 finds DejaVu Sans Mono on my system but not on > yours? It's certainly possible that you've installed it in Windows as well. I'd simply use another font (or even a wholLy non-existing one). > I guess that's not really relevant to this bug, but it does > mean that I can't currently reproduce the problem and so I can't debug > it. If you can consistently reproduce it, I think you might have to do > it under gdb (or attach gdb when emacs hangs) and see if you can > figure out what's going on. I'll have to sneak it in somehow next week trying to reproduce this on a different machine (running XP for testing) that has a clean Cygwin installation. I've been testing a lot on my own machine for the last few weeks and I don't really trust that installation anymore, but I can't nuke it right now. > I know from previous discussions that you use tcsh as your shell. > Could there be something in your tcsh configuration files that's > interfering? Or is there anything in your environment that could > explain this? Maybe you should try this from a bash shell and a clean > environment. If you want to send me your cygcheck output off list, I > can see if I spot any obvious differences between your system and > mine. I can try it again in bash and I should have nothing non-standard in my .bashrc, but will check again to make sure. I've mentioned tcsh because it is handling job control and some I/O issues differently than other shells and that has been triggering different behaviour in the past. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 10:58:07 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2012 15:58:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33086 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThMn1-0003qf-Cy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 10:58:07 -0500 Received: from limestone8.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.168]:37801) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThMmz-0003qZ-PD for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 10:58:06 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.143]) by limestone8.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB8Fvd1f000463 for <13112@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB8FviVC021103 for <13112@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.34.249] (rrcs-24-213-141-35.nys.biz.rr.com [24.213.141.35]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id qB8FvcjA019503 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 8 Dec 2012 10:57:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50C36369.9000509@cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 10:57:29 -0500 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C2605F.4000207@cornell.edu> <87pq2k7pe8.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <50C33150.2060007@cornell.edu> <50C335CE.109@cornell.edu> <87ehj07kt6.fsf@Rainer.invalid> In-Reply-To: <87ehj07kt6.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.8.142715 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Sat Dec 8 10:57:39 2012 X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112 Cc: 13112@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On 12/8/2012 8:08 AM, Achim Gratz wrote: > Ken Brown writes: >> I just repeated the experiment, but this time with Droid instead of >> DejaVu. This time emacs-w32 didn't find the font and chose Arial. > > OK, so that part seems to work the same way. > >> But File->Open still worked. > > Did it work after some delay or right away? When I've started dbus and > tried this, I've only been getting the dialog after an initial delay of > two or three seconds. Subsequent invocations didn't have that delay. It worked right away. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 08 19:09:48 2012 Received: (at 13112) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2012 00:09:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUSq-0006aq-4J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:09:48 -0500 Received: from limestone3.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.163]:60992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUSn-0006aj-EJ for 13112@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:09:46 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.143]) by limestone3.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB9099qN026819 for <13112@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 19:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB909Noa009974 for <13112@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 19:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id qB909GQs008860 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 8 Dec 2012 19:09:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50C3D69D.4010009@cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:09:01 -0500 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Burton Samograd Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3stiutx.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87boe5iscr.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87d2ylxqdc.fsf@samograd.ca> <874njwxudr.fsf@samograd.ca> In-Reply-To: <874njwxudr.fsf@samograd.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.8.235715 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Sat Dec 8 19:09:17 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112 Cc: 13112@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On 12/8/2012 1:37 PM, Burton Samograd wrote: > I didn't realize that cygw32 meant that you use the --with-w32 options. > Cygw32 was something I had never heard of and I thought it just meant > the regular cygwin builds. > > I don't think that use of emacs through X11 on windows is a hugely > common occurance If you build emacs on any POSIXish system, it uses X11 (and GTK+) by default, provided the builder has the necessary libraries installed. Cygwin is no exception. You have to specify a configure option to make it do something different. For example, --with-x=no creates a non-GUI version of emacs, and --with-w32 creates a version that uses the native Windows GUI for display instead of X11. It's this build that has been referred to as the cygw32 build on the emacs-devel mailing list. In the Cygwin distribution, this build produces what's called the emacs-w32 package, as of about a week ago. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 11 12:31:18 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2012 17:31:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37412 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTfq-0004l9-IZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:31:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37098) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTfp-0004l2-0y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:31:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTf3-0005hq-8X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:30:34 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:60754) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTf3-0005hm-5V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:30:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48434) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTex-0000VZ-Cx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:30:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTep-0005eV-0v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:30:23 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:33625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTeo-0005eD-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:30:14 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TiTey-0002kc-MQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:30:24 +0100 Received: from pd9eb2efa.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.235.46.250]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:30:24 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb2efa.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:30:24 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:30:02 +0100 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 26 Message-ID: <87k3socx9h.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9eb2efa.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wmDDygDxHtP5eHdBxfLp4lataxQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Ken Brown writes: > The cygw32 build of emacs tries to use many X11 features if the builder > has the appropriate development packages installed. For example, > HAVE_GSETTINGS and HAVE_GCONF will be defined. This causes serious > problems, as detailed starting at Hi Ken, sorry it took so long, but I've first updated my Cygwin installation to the latest and greatest and since the rebase map was starting to look wierd I also did a full rebase of everything. Result: I cannot reproduce the hang-ups anymore for the cygw32 build and the Gtk dialogs come up noticeably faster as well. I'll have to assume BLODA at this point since none of the updates (except libtasn1) was even remotely related to Emacs. If I find another way to reproduce the error again, I'll try to get a backtrace of all threads (I have all debuginfo packages installed now). Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ DIY Stuff: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/DIY.html From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 11 13:29:34 2012 Received: (at 13112-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2012 18:29:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37453 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiUaD-0006Ew-SP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:29:34 -0500 Received: from limestone4.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.164]:60948) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiUaB-0006Eo-HD for 13112-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:29:32 -0500 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from orchid.mail.cornell.edu (orchid.mail.cornell.edu [132.236.56.61]) by limestone4.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBBISkAv002209 for <13112-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by orchid.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qBBISmGB000466 for <13112-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id qBBISkqk006439 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:28:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50C77B70.2020509@cornell.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:29:04 -0500 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#13112: 24.2.90; The cygw32 build should disable X11 References: <50C1E941.2080609@cornell.edu> <87k3socx9h.fsf@Rainer.invalid> In-Reply-To: <87k3socx9h.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.12.11.182120 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Tue Dec 11 13:28:47 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13112-done Cc: 13112-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > wierd I also did a full rebase of everything. Result: I cannot > reproduce the hang-ups anymore for the cygw32 build and the Gtk dialogs > come up noticeably faster as well. I'll have to assume BLODA at this > point since none of the updates (except libtasn1) was even remotely > related to Emacs. If I find another way to reproduce the error again, > I'll try to get a backtrace of all threads (I have all debuginfo > packages installed now). OK, thanks. I'm closing the bug for now, but it can be re-opened if you're able to reproduce it again. Ken From unknown Sun Aug 10 16:49:24 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 12:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator