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24.1; flyspell highlights words containing curly quotes which ispell-buffer accepts

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From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.1;
	flyspell highlights words containing curly quotes which ispell-buffer
	accepts
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:59:11 +0000

Insert "didn’t" in the scratch buffer (note the curly quote).
ispell-buffer gives the buffer a clean bill of health, but turning on
flyspell-mode highlights “didn”. My default dictionary is british, and
ispell-buffer uses aspell by default on my system.


In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.12)
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Message #8 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1;
	flyspell highlights words containing curly quotes which
	ispell-buffer	accepts
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:29:39 +0200

> From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:59:11 +0000
> 
> Insert "didn’t" in the scratch buffer (note the curly quote).
> ispell-buffer gives the buffer a clean bill of health, but turning on
> flyspell-mode highlights “didn”. My default dictionary is british, and
> ispell-buffer uses aspell by default on my system.

Please try a newer Emacs, I think this bug was already fixed.  At
least I cannot reproduce this with the current emacs-24 branch.

Message #11 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1;
	flyspell highlights words containing curly quotes which ispell-buffer
	accepts
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:57:06 +0200

> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:52:29 +0000
> From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
> 
> > > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
> > > Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:59:11 +0000
> > >
> > > Insert "didn’t" in the scratch buffer (note the curly quote).
> > > ispell-buffer gives the buffer a clean bill of health, but turning on
> > > flyspell-mode highlights “didn”. My default dictionary is british, and
> > > ispell-buffer uses aspell by default on my system.
> >
> > Please try a newer Emacs, I think this bug was already fixed.  At
> > least I cannot reproduce this with the current emacs-24 branch.
> >
> > I just checked out out the emacs-24 branch, and I can reproduce this bug,
> running emacs -Q and proceeding as in my original report.

Sorry, that's my bad: I didn't "note the curly quote".

But with that character, ispell-buffer also wants me to correct
"didn".  So both commands are consistent on my machine.  But then I
don't work on en_GB.UTF-8 locale, and I'm guessing your ispell is
neither real ispell nor hunspell, which are two spellers I tested this
with.

P.S. Please keep the bug address on the CC list, so that this
discussion gets archived by the bug tracker.

Message #14 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1; flyspell highlights words containing curly
	quotes which ispell-buffer accepts
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 15:27:02 +0000

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On Dec 7, 2012 1:57 PM, "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:52:29 +0000
> > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
> >
> > > > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
> > > > Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:59:11 +0000
> > > >
> > > > Insert "didn’t" in the scratch buffer (note the curly quote).
> > > > ispell-buffer gives the buffer a clean bill of health, but turning
on
> > > > flyspell-mode highlights “didn”. My default dictionary is british,
and
> > > > ispell-buffer uses aspell by default on my system.
> > >
> > > Please try a newer Emacs, I think this bug was already fixed.  At
> > > least I cannot reproduce this with the current emacs-24 branch.
> > >
> > > I just checked out out the emacs-24 branch, and I can reproduce this
bug,
> > running emacs -Q and proceeding as in my original report.
>
> Sorry, that's my bad: I didn't "note the curly quote".
>
> But with that character, ispell-buffer also wants me to correct
> "didn".  So both commands are consistent on my machine.  But then I
> don't work on en_GB.UTF-8 locale, and I'm guessing your ispell is
> neither real ispell nor hunspell, which are two spellers I tested this
> with.

As I said originally, I'm using aspell.

> P.S. Please keep the bug address on the CC list, so that this
> discussion gets archived by the bug tracker.

Apologies for the error.

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Message #17 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1; flyspell highlights words containing curly
	quotes which ispell-buffer accepts
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 21:24:13 +0000

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On 7 December 2012 15:27, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> wrote:

> On Dec 7, 2012 1:57 PM, "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:52:29 +0000
> > > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
> > >
> > > > > From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
> > > > > Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:59:11 +0000
> > > > >
> > > > > Insert "didn’t" in the scratch buffer (note the curly quote).
> > > > > ispell-buffer gives the buffer a clean bill of health, but turning
> on
> > > > > flyspell-mode highlights “didn”. My default dictionary is british,
> and
> > > > > ispell-buffer uses aspell by default on my system.
> > > >
> > > > Please try a newer Emacs, I think this bug was already fixed.  At
> > > > least I cannot reproduce this with the current emacs-24 branch.
> > > >
> > > > I just checked out out the emacs-24 branch, and I can reproduce this
> bug,
> > > running emacs -Q and proceeding as in my original report.
> >
> > Sorry, that's my bad: I didn't "note the curly quote".
> >
> > But with that character, ispell-buffer also wants me to correct
> > "didn".  So both commands are consistent on my machine.  But then I
> > don't work on en_GB.UTF-8 locale, and I'm guessing your ispell is
> > neither real ispell nor hunspell, which are two spellers I tested this
> > with.
>
> As I said originally, I'm using aspell.
>
I just repeated the experiment with a built of the default branch of emacs,
and obtained the same results.

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Message #20 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1;
	flyspell highlights words containing curly quotes which ispell-buffer
	accepts
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:34:11 +0200

> I just repeated the experiment with a built of the default branch of emacs,
> and obtained the same results.

It seems we can do nothing to fix this.  `ispell-aspell-find-dictionary'
reads the ispell data from /usr/lib/aspell/en.dat that contains

  name en
  charset iso8859-1
  special ' -*-
  soundslike en
  affix en
  #repl-table en_affix.dat

where `special' defines just a straight quote.

The meaning of -*- is described in `ispell-aspell-find-dictionary' as

	      ;; The line looks like: special ' -** - -** . -** : -*-
	      ;; -** means that this character
	      ;;    - doesn't appear at word start
	      ;;    * may appear in the middle of a word
	      ;;    * may appear at word end

And we can't add the curly quote in `ispell-aspell-find-dictionary' explicitly
because /usr/lib/aspell/en.dat defines the charset iso8859-1, but the curly quote
is from the charset utf-8.

Message #23 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1; flyspell highlights words containing curly
	quotes which ispell-buffer accepts
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:20:42 +0000

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On 10 December 2012 23:34, Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> wrote:

> > I just repeated the experiment with a built of the default branch of
> emacs,
> > and obtained the same results.
>
> It seems we can do nothing to fix this.  `ispell-aspell-find-dictionary'
> reads the ispell data from /usr/lib/aspell/en.dat that contains
>
>   name en
>   charset iso8859-1
>   special ' -*-
>   soundslike en
>   affix en
>   #repl-table en_affix.dat
>
> where `special' defines just a straight quote.
>

Support for curly quotes in aspell appears to be partial and unreleased,
but Debian currently packages an unreleased version with this support; see:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533378

Hence, the support does exist, and, as I reported above, it works fine when
using ispell-buffer; it's only with flyspell that it doesn't work.

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Message #26 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1;
	flyspell highlights words containing curly quotes which ispell-buffer
	accepts
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:07:22 +0200

>> `ispell-aspell-find-dictionary' reads the ispell data from
>> /usr/lib/aspell/en.dat that contains
>>
>>   name en
>>   charset iso8859-1
>>   special ' -*-
>>   soundslike en
>>   affix en
>>   #repl-table en_affix.dat
>
> Support for curly quotes in aspell appears to be partial and unreleased,
> but Debian currently packages an unreleased version with this support; see:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533378

Thanks for the link.  It refers to the diff at
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/82990151/aspell_0.60.6-6_0.60.7~20110707-1.diff.gz
that includes the following fix that implements the
support for curly quotes in aspell:

diff -Nru aspell-0.60.6/data/iso-8859-1.cmap aspell-0.60.7~20110707/data/iso-8859-1.cmap
@@ -892,6 +892,7 @@
 2009 > 20 # compat
 200A > 20 # compat
+2019 > 27 # compat
 2024 > 2E # compat
 2025 > 2E 2E # compat

This fix means that aspell developers added a mapping from
2019 (RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK) to 27 (APOSTROPHE)
in their character `compat' table.  This explains why
`ispell-buffer' does work while `ispell-word' and `flyspell' don't.

`ispell-word' and `flyspell' still use the information from
/usr/lib/aspell/en.dat to parse the buffer to find the next word to check,
and fail because they don't use the `compat' mappings from iso-8859-1.cmap.

Applying a solution similar to the aspell fix above means that
`ispell-get-word' should consult a character equivalence table
(to be added in bug#13041 and bug#13131) and match curly quotes
as straight quotes while searching the next word to check.

Message #29 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1; flyspell highlights words containing curly
	quotes which ispell-buffer accepts
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 21:15:44 +0100

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On 11 December 2012 23:07, Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> wrote:

> >> `ispell-aspell-find-dictionary' reads the ispell data from
> This fix means that aspell developers added a mapping from
> 2019 (RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK) to 27 (APOSTROPHE)
> in their character `compat' table.  This explains why
> `ispell-buffer' does work while `ispell-word' and `flyspell' don't.
>
> `ispell-word' and `flyspell' still use the information from
> /usr/lib/aspell/en.dat to parse the buffer to find the next word to check,
> and fail because they don't use the `compat' mappings from iso-8859-1.cmap.
>

This finally annoyed me sufficiently that I decided I wanted a workaround.
Fortunately, this is easy, as it merely involves reapplying a version of
the fix I used to use when ispell-buffer didn't work. I now have the
following line in my custom.el:

 '(ispell-local-dictionary-alist (quote (("british" "[[:alpha:]]"
"[^[:alpha:]]" "'’" t ("-d" "en_GB") nil utf-8))))

I've copied the default settings and added a curly single quote to the list
of permitted "other characters". I imagine one can do the same for other
languages. It's ugly (principally because it copies rather than overwriting
information) but that information (the other entries in the record) doesn't
change often, so it'll do until a more comprehensive solution is applied.

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Message #32 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1; flyspell highlights words containing curly
	quotes which ispell-buffer accepts
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 21:20:21 +0100

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On 3 May 2013 21:15, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> wrote:

> On 11 December 2012 23:07, Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> wrote:
>
>> >> `ispell-aspell-find-dictionary' reads the ispell data from
>> This fix means that aspell developers added a mapping from
>> 2019 (RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK) to 27 (APOSTROPHE)
>> in their character `compat' table.  This explains why
>> `ispell-buffer' does work while `ispell-word' and `flyspell' don't.
>>
>> `ispell-word' and `flyspell' still use the information from
>> /usr/lib/aspell/en.dat to parse the buffer to find the next word to check,
>> and fail because they don't use the `compat' mappings from
>> iso-8859-1.cmap.
>>
>
> This finally annoyed me sufficiently that I decided I wanted a workaround.
> Fortunately, this is easy, as it merely involves reapplying a version of
> the fix I used to use when ispell-buffer didn't work. I now have the
> following line in my custom.el:
>
>  '(ispell-local-dictionary-alist (quote (("british" "[[:alpha:]]"
> "[^[:alpha:]]" "'’" t ("-d" "en_GB") nil utf-8))))
>
> I've copied the default settings and added a curly single quote to the
> list of permitted "other characters". I imagine one can do the same for
> other languages. It's ugly (principally because it copies rather than
> overwriting information) but that information (the other entries in the
> record) doesn't change often, so it'll do until a more comprehensive
> solution is applied.
>

Belay that, it doesn't work. It seems I have to type a new word for
flyspell to complain; merely passing the cursor over an old one (which
suffices to remove a highlight in a word that has been added to the
dictionary) does not suffice.

If anyone can offer a functioning workaround, I'd be most grateful.

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From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1; flyspell highlights words containing curly
	quotes which ispell-buffer accepts
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 21:48:27 +0100

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On 3 May 2013 21:20, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> wrote:

> On 3 May 2013 21:15, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> wrote:
>
>> On 11 December 2012 23:07, Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> wrote:
>>
>>> >> `ispell-aspell-find-dictionary' reads the ispell data from
>>> This fix means that aspell developers added a mapping from
>>> 2019 (RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK) to 27 (APOSTROPHE)
>>> in their character `compat' table.  This explains why
>>> `ispell-buffer' does work while `ispell-word' and `flyspell' don't.
>>>
>>> `ispell-word' and `flyspell' still use the information from
>>> /usr/lib/aspell/en.dat to parse the buffer to find the next word to
>>> check,
>>> and fail because they don't use the `compat' mappings from
>>> iso-8859-1.cmap.
>>>
>>
>> This finally annoyed me sufficiently that I decided I wanted a
>> workaround. Fortunately, this is easy, as it merely involves reapplying a
>> version of the fix I used to use when ispell-buffer didn't work. I now have
>> the following line in my custom.el:
>>
>>  '(ispell-local-dictionary-alist (quote (("british" "[[:alpha:]]"
>> "[^[:alpha:]]" "'’" t ("-d" "en_GB") nil utf-8))))
>>
>> I've copied the default settings and added a curly single quote to the
>> list of permitted "other characters". I imagine one can do the same for
>> other languages. It's ugly (principally because it copies rather than
>> overwriting information) but that information (the other entries in the
>> record) doesn't change often, so it'll do until a more comprehensive
>> solution is applied.
>>
>
> Belay that, it doesn't work. It seems I have to type a new word for
> flyspell to complain; merely passing the cursor over an old one (which
> suffices to remove a highlight in a word that has been added to the
> dictionary) does not suffice.
>
> If anyone can offer a functioning workaround, I'd be most grateful.
>

I read the documentation for ispell-dictionary-alist more carefully, and
came up with:

 '(ispell-local-dictionary-alist (quote (("british" "[[:alpha:]]"
"[^[:alpha:]]" "['’]" t ("-d" "en_GB") nil utf-8))))

where I made the "others" character set a character class.

I checked the aspell command actually being run (with "ps") to ensure that
it is indeed using "-d en_GB", and if I change the second argument to the
(bizarre) setting of "fr_FR", this is used, so my settings in
ispell-local-dictionary-alist are being used. If I run
ispell-get-otherchars, I get

['’]

as expected. If I run "(looking-at (ispell-get-otherchars))" while sitting
on a curly quote, I get:

t

Actually, now I see something weird is happening. I type:

"didn’", i.e. "didn" followed by a curly quote, and the word is highlighted
as misspelt. If I then type "t" to finish the word, it is unhighlighted,
after a pause.

Is there some other part of flyspell that is more rough-and-ready which I
also have to tweak?

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Message #38 received at 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Agustin Martin <agustin.martin <at> hispalinux.es>
To: Sebastien Vauban <sva-news <at> mygooglest.com>, 13109 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13109: 24.1; flyspell highlights words containing curly
	quotes which ispell-buffer accepts
Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 12:32:06 +0200

On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 09:26:30PM +0200, Sebastien Vauban wrote:
> Hello Reuben,
> 
> Reuben Thomas wrote:
> >>> I've copied the default settings and added a curly single quote to the
> >>> list of permitted "other characters". I imagine one can do the same for
> >>> other languages. It's ugly (principally because it copies rather than
> >>> overwriting information) but that information (the other entries in the
> >>> record) doesn't change often, so it'll do until a more comprehensive
> >>> solution is applied.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Belay that, it doesn't work. It seems I have to type a new word for
> >> flyspell to complain; merely passing the cursor over an old one (which
> >> suffices to remove a highlight in a word that has been added to the
> >> dictionary) does not suffice.
> >>
> >> If anyone can offer a functioning workaround, I'd be most grateful.
> >>
> >
> > I read the documentation for ispell-dictionary-alist more carefully, and
> > came up with:
> >
> >  '(ispell-local-dictionary-alist (quote (("british" "[[:alpha:]]"
> > "[^[:alpha:]]" "['???]" t ("-d" "en_GB") nil utf-8))))
> >
> > where I made the "others" character set a character class.
> 
> Not answering your questions, but commenting about this: it never has been
> clear to me which var should really be edited...
> `ispell-dictionary-base-alist', `ispell-base-dicts-override-alist' or
> `ispell-local-dictionary-alist'...

`ispell-local-dictionary-alist' is what you want.

`ispell-dictionary-base-alist' has the last resort values if nothing else
fits. `ispell-base-dicts-override-alist' is mostly for distros or sysadmins
to overrride values from `ispell-dictionary-base-alist' and will not
override auto-detected values. None of both are created with a defcustom.

-- 
Agustin

Message #43 received at 13109-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: 13109-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Thanks
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:46:24 +0100

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I'm happy with the answer given (for which thanks!); closing.

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