From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:12:50 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#1309: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs customizations Reply-To: Joshua Richardson , 1309@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Joshua Richardson Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1309 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122592277321925 (code B ref -1); Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:15:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_20,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_RDNS_DOTCOM_HELO,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Nov 2008 22:06:13 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA5M68Od021919 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:06:09 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxqVr-0002eR-Un for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:07 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxqVp-0002e6-Ds for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:06 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53375 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxqVp-0002e3-6J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:05 -0500 Received: from mrout1-b.corp.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.107.20]:24871) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KxqVo-0007hW-OI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:04 -0500 Received: from sp1-ex07cas03.ds.corp.yahoo.com (sp1-ex07cas03.ds.corp.yahoo.com [216.252.116.151]) by mrout1-b.corp.re1.yahoo.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/y.out) with ESMTP id mA5M5Jar071813 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:05:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=serpent; d=yahoo-inc.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:from:to:date:subject:thread-topic:thread-index: message-id:accept-language:content-language:x-ms-has-attach: x-ms-tnef-correlator:acceptlanguage:content-type:mime-version; b=TXGDUSsiJq9ZfnV+k0TW1dYVAe3hgDPgtdb+i/+SpaJccap4PyIt2POeCtEdnh+C Received: from SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com ([216.252.116.136]) by sp1-ex07cas03.ds.corp.yahoo.com ([216.252.116.151]) with mapi; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:05:15 -0800 From: Joshua Richardson To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:05:11 -0800 Thread-Topic: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs customizations Thread-Index: Ack/kpLpHIp55ts0SEO79n31Qc5C3A== Message-ID: <7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FA@SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FASP1EX07VS02ds_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) --_000_7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FASP1EX07VS02ds_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe it's not possible, but either way, thinking it should be documented h= ow it would be possible to start emacs without showing the startup screen. = There was one reference to using -quick, but that also seemed to bypass cu= stomizations. There was not other reference to the startup screen. I'm re= ferring to documentation at: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html= _mono/emacs.html Thanks, --josh Joshua Richardson Engineering Manager Yahoo! Upcoming (408) 349-7676 --_000_7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FASP1EX07VS02ds_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Maybe it’s not possible, but either way, thinking = it should be documented how it would be possible to start emacs without showin= g the startup screen.  There was one reference to using –quick, bu= t that also seemed to bypass customizations.  There was not other reference t= o the startup screen.  I’m referring to documentation at:  http:/= /www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/emacs.html

 

Thanks, --josh

 

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--_000_7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FASP1EX07VS02ds_-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:12:50 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: Joshua Richardson Subject: bug#1309 closed by Chong Yidong (Re: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs customizations) Message-ID: References: <87skq5cp8z.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FA@SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 1309 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 1309@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1225955403-26485-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1225955403-26485-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #1309: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs cus= tomizations It has been closed by Chong Yidong . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Chong Yidong by replying to this email. --=20 1309: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D1309 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1225955403-26485-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From cyd@stupidchicken.com Wed Nov 5 23:00:53 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 1309-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Nov 2008 07:00:53 +0000 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA670ost024492 for <1309-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:00:51 -0800 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 259AE57E09E; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:01:00 -0500 (EST) From: Chong Yidong To: Joshua Richardson Cc: 1309-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs customizations Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:01:00 -0500 Message-ID: <87skq5cp8z.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Maybe it's not possible, but either way, thinking it should be > documented how it would be possible to start emacs without showing the > startup screen. There was one reference to using -quick, but that > also seemed to bypass customizations. There was not other reference > to the startup screen. I'm referring to documentation at: > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/emacs.html I've made some changes to the Emacs manual in CVS that describes inhibit-startup-screen more prominently. These changes will appear on the website when Emacs 23 is released. Thanks for the bug report. ------------=_1225955403-26485-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From jric@yahoo-inc.com Wed Nov 5 14:06:13 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_20,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_RDNS_DOTCOM_HELO,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Nov 2008 22:06:13 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA5M68Od021919 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:06:09 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxqVr-0002eR-Un for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:07 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxqVp-0002e6-Ds for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:06 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53375 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxqVp-0002e3-6J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:05 -0500 Received: from mrout1-b.corp.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.107.20]:24871) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KxqVo-0007hW-OI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:04 -0500 Received: from sp1-ex07cas03.ds.corp.yahoo.com (sp1-ex07cas03.ds.corp.yahoo.com [216.252.116.151]) by mrout1-b.corp.re1.yahoo.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/y.out) with ESMTP id mA5M5Jar071813 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:05:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=serpent; d=yahoo-inc.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:from:to:date:subject:thread-topic:thread-index: message-id:accept-language:content-language:x-ms-has-attach: x-ms-tnef-correlator:acceptlanguage:content-type:mime-version; b=TXGDUSsiJq9ZfnV+k0TW1dYVAe3hgDPgtdb+i/+SpaJccap4PyIt2POeCtEdnh+C Received: from SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com ([216.252.116.136]) by sp1-ex07cas03.ds.corp.yahoo.com ([216.252.116.151]) with mapi; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:05:15 -0800 From: Joshua Richardson To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:05:11 -0800 Subject: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs customizations Thread-Topic: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs customizations Thread-Index: Ack/kpLpHIp55ts0SEO79n31Qc5C3A== Message-ID: <7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FA@SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FASP1EX07VS02ds_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) --_000_7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FASP1EX07VS02ds_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe it's not possible, but either way, thinking it should be documented h= ow it would be possible to start emacs without showing the startup screen. = There was one reference to using -quick, but that also seemed to bypass cu= stomizations. There was not other reference to the startup screen. I'm re= ferring to documentation at: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html= _mono/emacs.html Thanks, --josh Joshua Richardson Engineering Manager Yahoo! Upcoming (408) 349-7676 --_000_7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FASP1EX07VS02ds_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Maybe it’s not possible, but either way, thinking = it should be documented how it would be possible to start emacs without showin= g the startup screen.  There was one reference to using –quick, bu= t that also seemed to bypass customizations.  There was not other reference t= o the startup screen.  I’m referring to documentation at:  http:/= /www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/emacs.html

 

Thanks, --josh

 

Joshua Richardson

Engineering Manager

Yahoo! Upcoming

(408) 349-7676

 

--_000_7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FASP1EX07VS02ds_-- ------------=_1225955403-26485-1-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:12:50 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#1309: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs customizations Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 1309@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1309 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122602459723100 (code B ref -1); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:30:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Nov 2008 02:23:17 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA72NELF023093 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:23:15 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyH0E-0006WL-8L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:23:14 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyH0C-0006UO-PU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:23:12 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43255 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyH0C-0006UE-GO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:23:12 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:51122) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KyH0B-0006lO-Ts for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:23:12 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtcEAI81E0lMCqyo/2dsb2JhbACBdso6g1aBEA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,560,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="29497757" Received: from 76-10-172-168.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.172.168]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2008 21:23:11 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2D82E703DA; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:23:10 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Joshua Richardson Cc: 1309@debbugs.gnu.org, "bug-gnu-emacs\@gnu.org" Message-ID: References: <7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FA@SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:23:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FA@SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com> (Joshua Richardson's message of "Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:05:11 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. > Maybe it's not possible, but either way, thinking it should be > documented how it would be possible to start emacs without showing the > startup screen. There was one reference to using -quick, but that > also seemed to bypass customizations. There was not other reference The startup screen itself has a link to "customize startup", where the second entry is "inhibit startup screen". Do you think we should try and make it more prominent? If so how? Stefan From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:12:50 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#1309: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs customizations Reply-To: Joshua Richardson , 1309@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Joshua Richardson Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1309 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122608683524117 (code B ref -1); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:50:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, HAS_BUG_NUMBER,NO_RDNS_DOTCOM_HELO,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Nov 2008 19:40:35 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA7JeW1g024111 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:40:33 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyXC3-0002SO-Qs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyXC0-0002Rh-11 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50529 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyXBz-0002Re-Sz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:40:27 -0500 Received: from mrout3.yahoo.com ([216.145.54.173]:36205) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KyXBz-0003wy-CT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:40:27 -0500 Received: from sp1-ex07cas03.ds.corp.yahoo.com (sp1-ex07cas03.ds.corp.yahoo.com [216.252.116.151]) by mrout3.yahoo.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/y.out) with ESMTP id mA7Jdwoh048143; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:39:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=serpent; d=yahoo-inc.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:from:to:cc:date:subject:thread-topic: thread-index:message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language: content-language:x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator:acceptlanguage: content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=xQYMG1ITFV/YZkPx+uNSE0FSMJGbceKs82HMelBujoWGgwDWjrHxol1OlYbTIwwP Received: from SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com ([216.252.116.136]) by sp1-ex07cas03.ds.corp.yahoo.com ([216.252.116.151]) with mapi; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:39:58 -0800 From: Joshua Richardson To: Stefan Monnier CC: "1309@debbugs.gnu.org" <1309@debbugs.gnu.org>, "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:39:55 -0800 Thread-Topic: bug#1309: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still loading .emacs customizations Thread-Index: AclAf9e70G78tFz0QQ6tNv5SPlrMAwAj+owg Message-ID: <7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D079C10@SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com> References: <7D76650699E4354D90489A1BF623EEF1133D0799FA@SP1-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 I don't see the link; must be in newer versions only. As an aside, the opt= ion doesn't seem to be working with my version. If I type 'M-x eval-expres= sion', 'inhibit-startup-screen', I see 't' in the status bar, but I'm still= getting startup screens. Here is the text from my startup screen: Welcome to GNU Emacs, a part of the GNU operating system. Type C-l to begin editing your file. Get help C-h (Hold down CTRL and press h) Emacs manual C-h r Emacs tutorial C-h t Undo changes C-x u Buy manuals C-h C-m Exit Emacs C-x C-c Browse manuals C-h i Activate menubar F10 or ESC ` or M-` (`C-' means use the CTRL key. `M-' means use the Meta (or Alt) key. If you have no Meta key, you may instead type ESC followed by the character= .) GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i386-pc-freebsd, GTK+ Version 2.10.9) of 2007-08-01 on build01-bsd4.dt.corp.sp1.yahoo.com Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GNU Emacs comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type C-h C-w for full details. Emacs is Free Software--Free as in Freedom--so you can redistribute copies of Emacs and modify it; type C-h C-c to see the conditions. Type C-h C-d for information on getting the latest version. If an Emacs session crashed recently, type Meta-x recover-session RET to recover the files you were editing. -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Monnier [mailto:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca]=20 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:23 PM To: Joshua Richardson Cc: 1309@debbugs.gnu.org; bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#1309: no doc on how to avoid startup screen while still lo= ading .emacs customizations > Maybe it's not possible, but either way, thinking it should be > documented how it would be possible to start emacs without showing the > startup screen. There was one reference to using -quick, but that > also seemed to bypass customizations. There was not other reference The startup screen itself has a link to "customize startup", where the second entry is "inhibit startup screen". Do you think we should try and make it more prominent? If so how? Stefan