From unknown Tue Aug 19 07:28:44 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#13067 <13067@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#13067 <13067@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Using `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines': many problems Reply-To: bug#13067 <13067@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:28:44 +0000 retitle 13067 Using `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines': many problems reassign 13067 gnus submitter 13067 Michael Heerdegen severity 13067 normal tag 13067 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 03 08:51:48 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2012 13:51:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TfWR0-0007va-UP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:51:48 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:49803) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TfWQy-0007vS-9y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:51:45 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([82.113.121.88]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb002) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LtX9Q-1TDumy11eu-011Oqa; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:49:20 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: Using `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines': many problems X-Debbugs-Version: 5.13 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:50:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87624jnt2o.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:YkZ6cRGTIyL2nfuNuJYsoYwdu+SBwF1q1wuca2i2NOB H8G4SAUAo8JvOFw2ET0+xV2PLXjc0PFksMfTLy0xqmJqPCUJIk Zq2myNTEgq5474Ajb+Wt3qTMDloz/EMyBD05jSOroQG/TuYn1X 55eWlIm93j07Nr1Y1kTbBZzT0YyPQCS/n2mXdZ2Q+IxgZzwP1u lE2siMAuuABsT7THCRtPQt2ZTGRJ/0UCNN8RES241w= X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Hi, I wanted to set `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines' on a per-group basis, after I had read "4.4 Customizing Articles" in the manual. It took 3 hours to have a look and find out several reasons why this doesn't work as intended. These reasons are: 1. It doesn't work to use a binding to `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines' as a group paramenter. It is just ignored. It is even ignored if I push gnus-treat-fill-long-lines to `gnus-newsgroup-variables'. The value is always nil, in any buffer. Something like that should be possible. It is very likely that users will want to configure such a treatment setting per group. 2. Only a (global) value of t for `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines' has an effect. Setting it to an integer, which is also allowed according to the documentation, doesn't work for me. 3. If I want the setting to take effect for html messages, which is a IMHO quite common wish, if have to do this: (push "text/html" gnus-article-treat-types) Note that `gnus-article-treat-types' is not a user option, and its documentation consist of three words. Maybe I overlooked something or tried the wrong things - then please tell me. But I think this could work better. Thanks, Michael. Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 24.2.90.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-11-30 on drachen 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER STARTTLS . From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 26 10:38:15 2012 Received: (at 13067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2012 15:38:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60796 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tnt3e-0006om-50 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:38:14 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:33367) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tnt3b-0006oc-Nz for 13067@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:38:13 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tnt2n-0001Je-MY; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:37:22 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#13067: Using `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines': many problems References: <87624jnt2o.fsf@web.de> X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:37:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87624jnt2o.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:50:07 +0100") Message-ID: <87y5gk3jv4.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Tnt2n-0001Je-MY X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357141042.55438@B7SffIMxt+1JfoPfrOcGRA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13067 Cc: 13067@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > 1. It doesn't work to use a binding to `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines' as > a group paramenter. It is just ignored. I tried setting it in a group parameter, and the value seems to be respected. How are you setting it? > 2. Only a (global) value of t for `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines' has an > effect. Setting it to an integer, which is also allowed according to > the documentation, doesn't work for me. Works for me as demonstrated by `M-x debug-on-entry RET gnus-article-fill-cited-long-lines RET'. > 3. If I want the setting to take effect for html messages, which is a > IMHO quite common wish, if have to do this: > > (push "text/html" gnus-article-treat-types) Yes, that should probably be on the list. I've now added it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 26 11:59:24 2012 Received: (at 13067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2012 16:59:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnuK5-0000IZ-TK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:59:21 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:58337) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnuK0-0000II-8c for 13067@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:59:17 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([89.204.130.248]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0M0Qkb-1Svvhz1LUz-00uRpM; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:58:22 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#13067: Using `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines': many problems References: <87624jnt2o.fsf@web.de> <87y5gk3jv4.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:59:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y5gk3jv4.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:37:19 +0100") Message-ID: <87a9t04ump.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:AgAPtl33YRzLrxeIq2BVT1XqIZ3cdMcvOe53wD7stx9 dr2t1ioSt71oyEFtkVCt34J4mrGBFUw7BL5+lAorxjYf/kdK+l zL8Y7dIJ9Q+0LzRPghjNbrtLdASm2yNKqWbv9IWW4JbEh+M//V e5lkiAtV095a25J5cXvKeINjCsXIEDfZqBVXea1d3IW2nnXDhF dHyDmwxbg19w4P73QkdNDeuoTWewkjvIb6+QN34YL8= X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13067 Cc: 13067@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Michael Heerdegen writes: > > > 1. It doesn't work to use a binding to `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines' as > > a group paramenter. It is just ignored. > > I tried setting it in a group parameter, and the value seems to be > respected. How are you setting it? I think it only didn't work because of my bad setup (shr-width == 1000). Please ignore. > > 2. Only a (global) value of t for `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines' has an > > effect. Setting it to an integer, which is also allowed according to > > the documentation, doesn't work for me. > > Works for me as demonstrated by `M-x debug-on-entry RET > gnus-article-fill-cited-long-lines RET'. Good. I guess this was also due to my bogus setup. Please ignore. > > 3. If I want the setting to take effect for html messages, which is a > > IMHO quite common wish, if have to do this: > > > > (push "text/html" gnus-article-treat-types) > > Yes, that should probably be on the list. I've now added it. Ok - but not sure anymore if this correct. Normally, the filling is done by the html renderer, I guess. Is it now possible that filling is done twice, maybe with two different line lengths? Regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 26 12:05:09 2012 Received: (at 13067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2012 17:05:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60827 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnuPl-0000S2-Eb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:05:09 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39918) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnuPj-0000Ru-Ua for 13067@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:05:08 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnuOv-0003WD-MC; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:04:18 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#13067: Using `gnus-treat-fill-long-lines': many problems References: <87624jnt2o.fsf@web.de> <87y5gk3jv4.fsf@gnus.org> <87a9t04ump.fsf@web.de> X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:04:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87a9t04ump.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:59:26 +0100") Message-ID: <874nj83fu8.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1TnuOv-0003WD-MC X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357146258.69907@/A+ftd6uCIC4Krtvm3OLLg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13067 Cc: 13067@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Ok - but not sure anymore if this correct. Normally, the filling is > done by the html renderer, I guess. Is it now possible that filling is > done twice, maybe with two different line lengths? Yes. But the same is true for all other article treatment functions -- they should probably be run on HTML parts, too. We'll see how this works in practice. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 26 12:05:20 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2012 17:05:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60830 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnuPv-0000SS-M1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:05:20 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39924) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnuPu-0000SJ-6C for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:05:18 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnuP7-0003WU-Bm for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:04:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:04:27 +0100 Message-Id: <8738ys3ftw.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13067 X-MailScanner-ID: 1TnuP7-0003WU-Bm X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357146269.84364@aYmRo1N8D7t8alA+d4dwaw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) tags 13067 fixed close 13067 24.4 From unknown Tue Aug 19 07:28:44 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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