From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:17:54 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#13062 <13062@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#13062 <13062@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Reply-To: bug#13062 <13062@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 12:17:54 +0000 retitle 13062 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt reassign 13062 emacs submitter 13062 "Drew Adams" severity 13062 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 02 14:52:31 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2012 19:52:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50446 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TfFaY-0007zd-G2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:52:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38589) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TfFaW-0007zU-BP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac3QxjIsOVzmY1h6TiucdS7askyTLQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Backtrace: 0x0115459C 0x0115460E 0x01001459 0x01021B9F 0x012065C7 0x012030A6 0x0103B7F6 0x0104F409 0x01038B18 0x01010F1D 0x010382AB 0x0101097A 0x01038265 0x0103781F 0x01037B4C 0x010029AB 0x010010F9 0x7C817073 In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-11-19 on MS-W7-DANI Bzr revision: 110950 monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20121119182725-5p6w4wjimm7epggr Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/src -Ic:/emacs/libs/libpng-1.2.37-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/zlib-1.2.5 -Ic:/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -Ic:/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9-w32-bin/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.9.2-1-lib/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 02 15:35:39 2012 Received: (at 13062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2012 20:35:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TfGGJ-0000Zh-1h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:35:39 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:40734) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TfGGH-0000ZX-14 for 13062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 15:35:38 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MEF003007M9VE00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 13062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:33:17 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MEF003IU7RCIO80@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:33:13 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:33:05 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13062: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83r4n8ry7y.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13062 Cc: 13062@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 11:49:52 -0800 > > > Backtrace: > 0x0115459C > 0x0115460E > 0x01001459 > 0x01021B9F > 0x012065C7 > 0x012030A6 > 0x0103B7F6 > 0x0104F409 > 0x01038B18 > 0x01010F1D > 0x010382AB > 0x0101097A > 0x01038265 > 0x0103781F > 0x01037B4C > 0x010029AB > 0x010010F9 > 0x7C817073 Translation: w32_backtrace at C:\emacs\trunk\src/w32fns.c:7735 emacs_abort at C:\emacs\trunk\src/w32fns.c:7767 terminate_due_to_signal at C:\emacs\trunk\src/emacs.c:341 die at C:\emacs\trunk\src/alloc.c:6491 redisplay_internal at C:\emacs\trunk\src/xdisp.c:13529 redisplay at C:\emacs\trunk\src/xdisp.c:12683 read_char at C:\emacs\trunk\src/keyboard.c:2428 read_key_sequence at C:\emacs\trunk\src/keyboard.c:9230 command_loop_1 at C:\emacs\trunk\src/keyboard.c:1458 internal_condition_case at C:\emacs\trunk\src/eval.c:1288 command_loop_2 at C:\emacs\trunk\src/keyboard.c:1167 internal_catch at C:\emacs\trunk\src/eval.c:1059 command_loop at C:\emacs\trunk\src/keyboard.c:1146 recursive_edit_1 at C:\emacs\trunk\src/keyboard.c:778 Frecursive_edit at C:\emacs\trunk\src/keyboard.c:842 main at C:\emacs\trunk\src/emacs.c:1560 ?? at crt1.c:0 It's an assertion violation here: if (!EQ (old_frame, selected_frame) && FRAME_LIVE_P (XFRAME (old_frame))) /* We played a bit fast-and-loose above and allowed selected_frame and selected_window to be temporarily out-of-sync but let's make sure this stays contained. */ select_frame_for_redisplay (old_frame); eassert (EQ (XFRAME (selected_frame)->selected_window, <<<<<<<<<<< selected_window)); From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 22 20:08:40 2013 Received: (at 13062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2013 01:08:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44933 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U93bU-0007S6-A2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:08:40 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56828) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U93bS-0007S0-PQ for 13062@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:08:39 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U93a4-0003y2-RO; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:07:12 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13062: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt References: <83r4n8ry7y.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: industrial espionage Pine Gap Fedayeen global Telex X-Ran: #U(oe{^TS|`%p9UX|D32fbiv!A((,! X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:07:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83r4n8ry7y.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:33:05 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13062 Cc: 13062@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.6 (-------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > It's an assertion violation here: > > if (!EQ (old_frame, selected_frame) > && FRAME_LIVE_P (XFRAME (old_frame))) > /* We played a bit fast-and-loose above and allowed selected_frame > and selected_window to be temporarily out-of-sync but let's make > sure this stays contained. */ > select_frame_for_redisplay (old_frame); > eassert (EQ (XFRAME (selected_frame)->selected_window, <<<<<<<<<<< > selected_window)); So can anything be done with this information? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 23 05:23:47 2013 Received: (at 13062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2013 10:23:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45115 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9CGh-0003M4-MG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:23:47 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:37541) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9CGf-0003Lw-Vo for 13062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:23:46 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MIO00K004RFO100@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:22:17 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MIO00KQO4T4JA70@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:22:17 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:22:04 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13062: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83fw0nl48j.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83r4n8ry7y.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13062 Cc: 13062@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: 13062@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:07:12 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > It's an assertion violation here: > > > > if (!EQ (old_frame, selected_frame) > > && FRAME_LIVE_P (XFRAME (old_frame))) > > /* We played a bit fast-and-loose above and allowed selected_frame > > and selected_window to be temporarily out-of-sync but let's make > > sure this stays contained. */ > > select_frame_for_redisplay (old_frame); > > eassert (EQ (XFRAME (selected_frame)->selected_window, <<<<<<<<<<< > > selected_window)); > > So can anything be done with this information? I think this should be closed, as there were massive changes in this area (on the trunk) with the purpose of avoiding those assertion violations. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 23 14:03:35 2013 Received: (at 13062-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2013 19:03:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46059 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9KNj-00008C-Du for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:03:35 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:44895) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9KNi-000085-0v for 13062-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:03:34 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U9KMG-00024W-0e; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:02:04 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 13062-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#13062: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt References: <83r4n8ry7y.fsf@gnu.org> <83fw0nl48j.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: IMF ammunition basement militia condor UMTS halcon X-Ran: PO4E(7Oa\\MOz^E+~#E-$b&/g)F2fs""Y5KKf"SO{P/dQ#XT)1,"i^5XdTjiqnp]-LJ+RR X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:02:03 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83fw0nl48j.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:22:04 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13062-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think this should be closed, as there were massive changes in this > area (on the trunk) with the purpose of avoiding those assertion > violations. OK PS IIUC These binaries are intended for non-technical users (who can't build Emacs). Is it useful for them to be compiled with assertion checking? It just seems to lead to lots of crashes that the users can't diagnose. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 23 15:12:34 2013 Received: (at 13062) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2013 20:12:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46092 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9LSU-0001i4-I0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:12:34 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:36116) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U9LSS-0001hw-4e for 13062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:12:32 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MIO00200W12UU00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 13062@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:10:49 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MIO002PNW20RN10@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:10:48 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:10:36 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#13062: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83wqtykczn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83r4n8ry7y.fsf@gnu.org> <83fw0nl48j.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13062 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, 13062@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:02:03 -0500 > > PS IIUC These binaries are intended for non-technical users (who can't > build Emacs). Is it useful for them to be compiled with assertion > checking? It just seems to lead to lots of crashes that the users > can't diagnose. I think assertions help _us_ diagnose problems, because they trigger earlier than a crash that follows, and pinpoint the root cause better. From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:17:54 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator