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24.2; manual section 21.1 (mouse commands) contradictory/unclear

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To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>
Cc: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13049: closed (24.2; manual section 21.1 (mouse commands)
 contradictory/unclear)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 03:06:02 +0000

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From: Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb <at> nyu.edu>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.2; manual section 21.1 (mouse commands) contradictory/unclear
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:42:08 -0500

I believe that the documentation in section 21.1 Mouse Commands for
Editing is contradictory, or at least unclear.

In the beginning we read

    `Drag-Mouse-1'
         Activate the region around the text selected by dragging, and
         copy it to the kill ring (`mouse-set-region').

Which does not mention the primary selection and asserts copying to kill
ring.

Later we read

       Holding down `Mouse-1' and "dragging" the mouse over a stretch of
    text activates the region around that text (`mouse-set-region'),
    placing the mark where you started holding down the mouse button,
    and point where you release it (*note Mark::).  In addition, the
    text in the region becomes the primary selection (*note Primary
    Selection::).

       If you change the variable `mouse-drag-copy-region' to a
    non-`nil' value, dragging the mouse over a stretch of text also adds
    the text to the kill ring.  The default is `nil'.

This asserts copying to the primary selection and that copying to the
kill ring is not the default behavior.

Thanks again for emacs, which I have been using happily for ~30 years.
allan gottlieb
new york university


In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.11)
 of 2012-08-28 on ajglap
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11299905
Configured using:
 `configure '--prefix=/usr' '--build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu'
 '--host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=/usr/share/man'
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 'CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe -ggdb -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1
 -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS=''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
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Major mode: Info

Minor modes in effect:
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  iswitchb-mode: t
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  file-name-shadow-mode: t
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  auto-compression-mode: t
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  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<mouse-1> <return> p r i v a t e SPC s t a t i c SPC 
f i n a l SPC i n t SPC N U M _ P E R _ L I N E SPC 
= SPC 1 0 ; C-S-x C-S-s C-S-a C-S-k C-/ C-S-x O C-S-x 
O C-S-y C-S-x C-S-s M-X C O M P I L E C-a M-l <return> 
<return> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <C-backspace> i n 
i t i a l <down> <down> <down> <down> <left> <C-backspace> 
f i n a l C-x C-s <select-window> M-x c o m p i l e 
<return> <return> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> <mouse-1> 
C-x 2 <select-window> <select-window> <help-echo> <select-window> 
<help-echo> <help-echo> <select-window> <down-mouse-3> 
<mouse-3> <select-window> <help-echo> <select-window> 
<select-window> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<select-window> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<help-echo> <select-window> <help-echo> <select-window> 
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-3> 
<mouse-3> <down-mouse-3> <mouse-3> <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<help-echo> <select-window> <select-window> <down-mouse-1> 
<mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> <select-window> <mouse-movement> 
<select-window> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> <select-window> 
<mouse-movement> <select-window> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> 
<select-window> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> <select-window> 
<mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> <select-window> <drag-mouse-1> 
<down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <double-down-mouse-4> <double-mouse-4> 
<triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> 
<triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> 
<triple-down-mouse-4> <triple-mouse-4> <triple-down-mouse-4> 
<triple-mouse-4> <select-window> <select-window> <select-window> 
<select-window> <select-window> <select-window> <select-window> 
<select-window> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <double-down-mouse-1> 
<double-mouse-1> <triple-down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> 
<mouse-movement> <triple-drag-mouse-1> <select-window> 
<select-window> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-2> 
<mouse-2> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> C-/ <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> C-y M-y M-y C-/ C-/ C-/ 
<select-window> <select-window> <select-window> <select-window> 
C-x 5 2 <switch-frame> C-c C-g C-r C-g C-c r C-g C-g 
C-h r C-s m o u s e <return> <return> <select-window> 
<help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <down-mouse-5> 
<mouse-5> <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <double-down-mouse-4> 
<double-mouse-4> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <down-mouse-5> 
<mouse-5> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <double-down-mouse-4> <double-mouse-4> 
<down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5> <down-mouse-5> 
<mouse-5> <help-echo> C-x 5 2 <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<select-window> <switch-frame> M-x r e p o r t - e 
m <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Compilation finished
Ispell process killed
Starting new Ispell process [default] ...
byte-code: Beginning of buffer [3 times]
Mark set
Undo!
Mark set
Undo! [3 times]
Quit [3 times]
Mark saved where search started

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From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> gnu.org>
To: Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb <at> nyu.edu>
Cc: 13049-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13049: 24.2;
	manual section 21.1 (mouse commands) contradictory/unclear
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:05:20 +0800

Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb <at> nyu.edu> writes:

> I believe that the documentation in section 21.1 Mouse Commands for
> Editing is contradictory, or at least unclear.
>
> In the beginning we read
>
>     `Drag-Mouse-1'
>          Activate the region around the text selected by dragging, and
>          copy it to the kill ring (`mouse-set-region').
>
> Which does not mention the primary selection and asserts copying to kill
> ring.

I've committed a fix.  Thanks for spotting this.

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