From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:10:02 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#13010 <13010@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#13010 <13010@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail Reply-To: bug#13010 <13010@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:10:02 +0000 retitle 13010 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail reassign 13010 emacs,gnus submitter 13010 Laura Conrad severity 13010 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 27 08:29:28 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2012 13:29:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41351 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TdLE4-0001ab-Ik for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:29:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35073) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TdLDy-0001aQ-QA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:29:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TdLCA-0004VZ-Ub for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:27:30 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:40236) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TdLCA-0004VV-Qu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:27:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60932) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TdLC2-0007fD-Pz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:27:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TdLBu-0004TY-7b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:27:18 -0500 Received: from caiajhbdcbhh.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.177]:36317 helo=homiemail-a10.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TdLBt-0004TU-Lg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:27:10 -0500 Received: from homiemail-a10.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a10.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CA6280074 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:27:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=laymusic.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= laymusic.org; bh=y3dJC9C6uQoXiFp8gIAS+LlFeK0=; b=kMVvgosKLNPbQKZ M8yyHU5cjlzs02P5ei6qiEcxCJepDOWGtSw5a9sqclFAX7xmqrZiPaiNNxBLJIyw LmuUMhoz6/Pn9BB+ahZHWQ5rbJgHA2CKOSKMGEAEDsH2u9HXYkXncs5+nJq3F+tv 08xrt7wlaFCfj3+xMJnqEQ7ppwTY= Received: from localhost (c-50-138-183-185.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [50.138.183.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lconrad@laymusic.org) by homiemail-a10.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD38F280065 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:27:02 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Conrad To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail X-Face: +h=WU/v,Ro}5P&TcQ=|qp9>.kdKUH!`7s(WC)X/15|Nd{D!]zW(^%[Sp(}0v"O|b=C9z}*4@)x_C2fgA~Wi&@/V"f6vs*B.1`(}; T=]?M6O; HvGS Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:26:59 -0500 Message-ID: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) More than half the time, when I type "g" in the *Group* buffer, gnus reads the mail spool file and then hangs. Here's what's in the *Messages* buffer: Checking new news... Reading active file from private via nnml... Reading incoming mail from file... Wrote /home/lconrad/Mail/lilypond/160581 Wrote /home/lconrad/Mail/sunny/85993 Wrote /home/lconrad/Mail/sunny/85994 Wrote /home/lconrad/Mail/sunny/85995 Wrote /home/lconrad/Mail/cron/5489 nnml: Reading incoming mail (5 new)...done Reading active file from private via nnml...done Quit The hang is always after the "Reading active file from private via nnml...done" line, and the mail groups do not get an updated count. If I then hit ^G, I can hit "g" again and the group counts are updated appropriately. Here's what the *Messages* buffer has then: Checking new news... Reading active file from private via nnml... Reading incoming mail from file... nnml: Reading incoming mail (no new mail)...done Reading active file from private via nnml...done Reading active file via nndraft...done Reading active file from laura via nnmairix...done Checking new news...done So it looks like it might be something stupid that nnmairix is doing, but I've tried turning that off and still get the problem. In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-11-08 on lakoocha, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11103000 Configured using: `configure '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs24:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-crt-dir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro' 'CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: gnus-undo-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: q SPC n q g p p p p p p p p p p p p p SPC SPC q SPC SPC n q SPC n n n SPC q SPC c y SPC q # C-x C-s g g p p p p SPC SPC SPC q SPC SPC n SPC n SPC SPC SPC q SPC q SPC q SPC n n q SPC q SPC q g p SPC SPC SPC n SPC SPC q g g p p p SPC SPC q SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC n n C-n C-n C-n c y g p p p p p p p p p p p p p p SPC q SPC q SPC SPC SPC SPC q SPC SPC n q SPC C-d SPC q q SPC C-n C-n C-n c y SPC C-n SPC SPC q SPC q SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC q SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC SPC q SPC SPC SPC q SPC n SPC SPC n SPC n SPC SPC n SPC n SPC SPC n SPC SPC SPC n SPC n n SPC SPC n n n SPC SPC n SPC q g g p p p SPC q Recent messages: Quit Checking new news... Reading active file from private via nnml... 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page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@laymusic.org, twitter: @serpentplayer) (617) 661-8097 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 http://www.laymusic.org/ http://www.serpentpublications.org At dawn, the magpie sings, and by day the black cockatoo wing their way across a sunny sky. The koala, possum, dingo and carpet snake are silent on the land below. A mist covers the mountains. We and our land are crying for you. Eve Fesl, Matriarch of the Gubbi Gubbi tribe, eulogizing Steve Irwin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 24 07:20:07 2012 Received: (at 13010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2012 12:20:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57682 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tn70o-0008DB-NP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 07:20:07 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:37482) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tn70m-0008D0-3Z for 13010@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 07:20:05 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tn709-0005Hd-Li; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 13:19:26 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Laura Conrad Subject: Re: bug#13010: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail References: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 13:19:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> (Laura Conrad's message of "Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:26:59 -0500") Message-ID: <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Tn709-0005Hd-Li X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1356956366.42869@TxGWdgP9yBsSBHL7EEbMxg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13010 Cc: 13010@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Laura Conrad writes: > The hang is always after the "Reading active file from private via > nnml...done" line, and the mail groups do not get an updated count. If > I then hit ^G, I can hit "g" again and the group counts are updated > appropriately. Here's what the *Messages* buffer has then: If you set `debug-on-quit', `C-g' should hopefully give you a backtrace that will point you to the offending backend. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 24 11:07:19 2012 Received: (at 13010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2012 16:07:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58321 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnAYg-0006l0-DO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:07:19 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:18425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnAYd-0006ks-NI for 13010@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:07:16 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu09FxLDj/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSSIHAW6CYshhSMDiEKacYFYgweBQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="210641834" Received: from 69-196-176-227.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.176.227]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 24 Dec 2012 11:06:43 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8EEEC59525; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:06:42 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#13010: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail Message-ID: References: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:06:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 24 Dec 2012 13:19:22 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13010 Cc: 13010@debbugs.gnu.org, Laura Conrad X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> The hang is always after the "Reading active file from private via >> nnml...done" line, and the mail groups do not get an updated count. If >> I then hit ^G, I can hit "g" again and the group counts are updated >> appropriately. Here's what the *Messages* buffer has then: > If you set `debug-on-quit', `C-g' should hopefully give you a backtrace > that will point you to the offending backend. Still, as I mentioned in some earlier bug-report (which I think I sent to bug-gnus), better would be for the echo area messages to make it clear which server(s) is currently being accessed. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 24 11:16:26 2012 Received: (at 13010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2012 16:16:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnAhW-0006zY-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:16:26 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38310) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnAhU-0006zR-LO for 13010@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:16:25 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnAgn-0008Gk-R5; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:15:42 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#13010: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail References: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:15:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:06:41 -0500") Message-ID: <87wqw72zpx.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1TnAgn-0008Gk-R5 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1356970542.78297@JzEvruCQzVRN489zyWv8EA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13010 Cc: 13010@debbugs.gnu.org, Laura Conrad X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: > Still, as I mentioned in some earlier bug-report (which I think I sent > to bug-gnus), better would be for the echo area messages to make it > clear which server(s) is currently being accessed. Yes. However, flashing everything that's being done will lead to a lot of messages in the buffer, which wouldn't be very productive. If Emacs had that `delayed-message' thing I've been twittering on about for years, then Gnus could issue lots of progress info, but only the relevant messages would reach the user. (I.e., when Gnus really is waiting for something.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 24 11:35:56 2012 Received: (at 13010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2012 16:35:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58368 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnB0K-0007Sl-4K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:35:56 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:29901) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnB0F-0007SZ-Be for 13010@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:35:51 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu09FxLDj/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjEAs0EhQYDSSIHAW6CYshhSMDiEKacYFYgweBQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="210643135" Received: from 69-196-176-227.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.176.227]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 24 Dec 2012 11:35:15 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C7A1659067; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:35:15 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#13010: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail Message-ID: References: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> <87wqw72zpx.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:35:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87wqw72zpx.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:15:38 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13010 Cc: 13010@debbugs.gnu.org, Laura Conrad X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> Still, as I mentioned in some earlier bug-report (which I think I sent >> to bug-gnus), better would be for the echo area messages to make it >> clear which server(s) is currently being accessed. > Yes. However, flashing everything that's being done will lead to a lot > of messages in the buffer, which wouldn't be very productive. I'm not saying "everything" just one message between each server. I don't know about you, but I only have 4 servers here, so that just adds 3 messages to each `g', which seems pretty reasonable. Currently, Gnus often hangs on some nntp connection while the echo area might keep saying something like "received 34k from imap.bla.bla". Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 24 11:42:02 2012 Received: (at 13010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Dec 2012 16:42:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58374 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnB6I-0007bc-0p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:42:02 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39157) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnB6F-0007bE-Ku for 13010@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:42:00 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnB5c-00009Q-M8; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:41:21 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#13010: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail References: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> <87wqw72zpx.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:41:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:35:15 -0500") Message-ID: <87fw2v9zde.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1TnB5c-00009Q-M8 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1356972081.60939@Ijg7fcxOIS/TjMQ3EXZjZQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13010 Cc: 13010@debbugs.gnu.org, Laura Conrad X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: > I'm not saying "everything" just one message between each server. > I don't know about you, but I only have 4 servers here, so that just > adds 3 messages to each `g', which seems pretty reasonable. Well, no, that would be a lot more messages. :-) (But varying over what kinds of backends they are, and what you've asked Gnus to fetch from them...) Gnus issues commands asynchronously to the servers and then waits on the data from each of them. If you switch on `gnus-backend-trace' you'll get a very partial subset of the most important backend actions (i.e., the ones that typically take some time). I get 34 of these messages on hitting `g'. But I probably have more backends than you. > Currently, Gnus often hangs on some nntp connection while the echo area > might keep saying something like "received 34k from imap.bla.bla". Yup. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 29 00:32:25 2012 Received: (at 13010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2012 05:32:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35460 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Top20-0000zU-FF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:32:25 -0500 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:54192) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Top1y-0000zM-5s for 13010@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:32:22 -0500 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qBT5VIAE002094; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:31:19 -0500 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 85AC7AE0B8; Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:31:20 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#13010: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail Message-ID: References: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> <87wqw72zpx.fsf@gnus.org> <87fw2v9zde.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:31:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87fw2v9zde.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:41:17 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4445=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4445> : streams <882696> : uri <1306212> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13010 Cc: 13010@debbugs.gnu.org, Laura Conrad X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) >> I'm not saying "everything" just one message between each server. >> I don't know about you, but I only have 4 servers here, so that just >> adds 3 messages to each `g', which seems pretty reasonable. > Well, no, that would be a lot more messages. :-) (But varying over > what kinds of backends they are, and what you've asked Gnus to fetch > from them...) > Gnus issues commands asynchronously to the servers and then waits on the > data from each of them. But we still only need one message per backend: basically every time a backend ends, state either which backend ended or which backends are still busy. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 31 09:55:23 2012 Received: (at 13010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2012 14:55:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37914 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tpglt-0000ov-ST for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:55:23 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:57192) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tpglq-0000oY-8M for 13010@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:55:19 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TpgkZ-0004zz-Nj; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:53:59 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#13010: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail References: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> <87wqw72zpx.fsf@gnus.org> <87fw2v9zde.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEXs6+fZ0cOtk47////+ //79/f34+PcvGh4yBFzXAAACV0lEQVQ4jW2TTZOiMBCGO6Qmc02H0r2SWLNe0RbOMwvj2ZHFc5Qx 9+XC398OKqNT81pUYx7e0B8B6KqgglftIdz+wzXy4qid+gaO8/MYy/N38NSMsWgnkHsAUJBSrmd0 CPMJvEIQCsQTbSE8OMxLXdf4BzfgdF1twwScMdYZh65zxmK80r9USnYY49ySr9S5E4esTdnQAOEp caPmzu05ZB4zxaA4/XKmH5aD661xwzC4JUOqgD5y9QZaaR30q0jQos6Slwj2HspOBq4UO2Kg9YIC dewAWBsb60KixGf+PLuA/VEcEee+KERdCRI4C1egoPRBisNOAwgCkAcGnO7eWNBobENlAFE6Z39T TLc+hVC34dkCSiKxshksRscwql/Dti0iyDQ3+szgUrV7zt4smpRK1ewi6BjwgnNJv1VBdTsQ3RVY ZBknLeejpLAC4VJgXMdlL/5xhe05ArPgrC7ADX0SAQBaoZMFQTECNyz7XAvQkngbOrJjFUHsdb+y gWfvUZae0x0BPz/0/XXSQubBM8i7W4HUPgCaQGLXxIO1kT6AHAW96uMI5vybeuVxT177ERw7tblz GGIX5gBdmZ6LyfFhHJ3s3q6Quy/VF0gsjgczOh7AyppmbPshdHkats3dO1Lvu7EYTaqcAGagNMi4 3qT0VFQ3cMz8nEILzSYW+FnQ5OAPwfMkrdHiAYzTuH2xDKo7wMf2BrrNvYN0dQPyaysNyCcUISqE 2YecHFWpUciro6kIypt901DR0CTIp9siTO/gG1iDDxd5+Hxv3+so3hJW9IMkbf4DTlv1r+HBahEA AAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Franklin Bruno's _A Bedroom Community_: "At Marsh Ranch" Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:53:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:31:20 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1TpgkZ-0004zz-Nj X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357570439.83@JHzq1onSKAnhMDqZ9ar07w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13010 Cc: 13010@debbugs.gnu.org, Laura Conrad X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: > But we still only need one message per backend: basically every time > a backend ends, state either which backend ended or which backends are > still busy. I don't really see that helping much. When opening the server, that may take time, so we should say "Opening imap.gmail.com". Then we probably open a different server. Then we issue commands to Gmail, which may hang, so we should say "Retrieving group data from imap.gmail.com". Then we issue similar commands to other servers. Then we wait for the data from Gmail, which will most likely block, so we should say "Waiting for data from imap.gmail.com". Multiply that by six servers, and you get a constant flutter in the minibuffer if none of these commands actually hand. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 03 11:53:03 2013 Received: (at 13010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2013 16:53:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41790 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tqo2R-0006SU-B1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:53:03 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:24919) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tqo2Q-0006SL-02 for 13010@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:53:02 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkGAG6Zu09FxK5W/2dsb2JhbABEgXuyFoEIghUBAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgTAwYFsCoNiVKLIYUjA4hCjWiNCYFYgweBQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="211281275" Received: from 69-196-174-86.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.174.86]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Jan 2013 11:52:59 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DA39E58FAD; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:52:58 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#13010: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail Message-ID: References: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> <87wqw72zpx.fsf@gnus.org> <87fw2v9zde.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:52:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:53:59 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13010 Cc: 13010@debbugs.gnu.org, Laura Conrad X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> But we still only need one message per backend: basically every time >> a backend ends, state either which backend ended or which backends are >> still busy. > I don't really see that helping much. When opening the server, that may > take time, so we should say "Opening imap.gmail.com". Then we probably > open a different server. Then we issue commands to Gmail, which may > hang, so we should say "Retrieving group data from imap.gmail.com". > Then we issue similar commands to other servers. Then we wait for the > data from Gmail, which will most likely block, so we should say "Waiting > for data from imap.gmail.com". My suggestion was to only do it when a backend finishes and not to do it at the level of "backend command" but at a higher level (so when you hit "g" in the *Groups* buffer, you'd get N messages if you have N backends). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 30 18:45:22 2014 Received: (at 13010) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2014 23:45:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41913 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W91IP-0004AR-NW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:45:22 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:50628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W91II-00041m-HP for 13010@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:45:18 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W91I1-0002KS-7e; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 00:44:57 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Laura Conrad Subject: Re: bug#13010: 24.2; Gnus hangs getting mail References: <874nkbnplo.fsf@laymusic.org> <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:44:08 -0800 In-Reply-To: <874njbabhx.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 24 Dec 2012 13:19:22 +0100") Message-ID: <871tzpavcn.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1W91I1-0002KS-7e X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391730297.8874@8qssDXprBnAceeErqNsKlA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 13010 Cc: 13010@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Laura Conrad writes: > >> The hang is always after the "Reading active file from private via >> nnml...done" line, and the mail groups do not get an updated count. If >> I then hit ^G, I can hit "g" again and the group counts are updated >> appropriately. Here's what the *Messages* buffer has then: > > If you set `debug-on-quit', `C-g' should hopefully give you a backtrace > that will point you to the offending backend. More information was requested a year ago, but none were given, so I'm closing this bug report. Please reopen if further progress is made. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 30 18:45:21 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2014 23:45:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41911 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W91IO-00049A-Gj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:45:21 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:50634) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W91IL-00045a-JK for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:45:17 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W91I7-0002KZ-2b for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 00:45:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:44:14 -0800 Message-Id: <87zjmd9gs1.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #13010 X-MailScanner-ID: 1W91I7-0002KZ-2b X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391730303.94839@CP78nR+CAXOgPwUyw0bLmA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 13010 From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:10:02 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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