From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:08:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12982: 24.2.90; Removed autoload not mentioned in news. Resent-From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12982 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12982@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135378388914507 (code B ref -1); Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:05:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2012 19:04:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL20-0003lw-T1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:04:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45020) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL1x-0003ln-DX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:04:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0Q-0005io-CQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:40385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0Q-0005iU-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56444) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0O-0000KP-O4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0N-0005du-55 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:08 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:08 -0500 Received: from mail1-hoer.fullrate.dk ([89.150.129.84]:60624 helo=smtp.fullrate.dk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0M-0005bd-SH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:07 -0500 Received: from kfs-lx2.home.kfs (1405ds6-amb.1.fullrate.dk [90.184.79.200]) by smtp.fullrate.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id B2D119CD81 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:03:03 +0100 (CET) From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 8.x Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) For ages, I have had these lines in my .emacs: (setq hippie-expand-verbose nil) (setq hippie-expand-try-functions-list (cons 'try-expand-dabbrev-visible hippie-expand-try-functions-list)) With 24.2.90, these now trigger a bug on load: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable hippie-expand-try-functions-list) (cons (quote try-expand-dabbrev-visible) hippie-expand-try-functions-list) ... Comparing hippie-exp.el, I see that the autoload clauses have been removed for these variables -- obviously related to this change: 2012-09-29 Glenn Morris * hippie-exp.el (hippie-expand-try-functions-list) (hippie-expand-verbose, hippie-expand-dabbrev-skip-space) (hippie-expand-dabbrev-as-symbol, hippie-expand-no-restriction) (hippie-expand-max-buffers, hippie-expand-ignore-buffers) (hippie-expand-only-buffers): No need to autoload defcustoms. At least this should be listed as an incompatible lisp change in 24.3 ... In GNU Emacs 24.2.90.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2012-11-24 on kfs-lx2 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11104000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 (squeeze) Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: en_DK.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_DK.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: en_DK.utf8 value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: display-time-mode: t cua-mode: t ido-everywhere: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r t - e m Recent messages: C1: nil Loading /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/user/kfs/custom-cvs.el (source)... Loading cua-base...done Loading time...done Loading keypad...done Loading paren...done Loading /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/user/kfs/custom-cvs.el (source)...done C2: t Loading /home/kfs/gm/gm5/tools/cgi-mode.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type M-x about-emacs. 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Storm http://www.cua.dk From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:08:47 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Subject: bug#12982: closed (Re: bug#12982: 24.2.90; Removed autoload not mentioned in news.) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 12982 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 12982@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 01:45:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1353894302-3437-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1353894302-3437-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #12982: 24.2.90; Removed autoload not mentioned in news. which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 12982@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 12982: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D12982 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1353894302-3437-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 12982-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2012 01:44:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38795 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tcnkl-0000t6-Sx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:44:56 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54000) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tcnkk-0000t0-TY for 12982-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:44:55 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tcnj7-0001jm-VG; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:43:14 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 12982-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12982: 24.2.90; Removed autoload not mentioned in news. References: X-Spook: Kennedy Manfurov illuminati SRI kibo sweep national X-Ran: ]>9QWX4Jh.j}Wc2Ac_WmWg%!z/PmT_!Va`FHuhBiv%'QDA4*/.:Se-'FmF>O*(h3zMuF>c X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:43:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Kim F. Storm's message of "Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:08 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12982-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) Version: 24.2.91 Kim F. Storm wrote: > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable hippie-expand-try-functions-list I put the autoload for that one back. The others no longer being autoloaded doesn't seem NEWSworthy to me, but feel free to add a mention of it if you like. ------------=_1353894302-3437-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2012 19:04:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL20-0003lw-T1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:04:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45020) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL1x-0003ln-DX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:04:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0Q-0005io-CQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:40385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0Q-0005iU-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56444) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0O-0000KP-O4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0N-0005du-55 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:08 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:08 -0500 Received: from mail1-hoer.fullrate.dk ([89.150.129.84]:60624 helo=smtp.fullrate.dk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcL0M-0005bd-SH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:03:07 -0500 Received: from kfs-lx2.home.kfs (1405ds6-amb.1.fullrate.dk [90.184.79.200]) by smtp.fullrate.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id B2D119CD81 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:03:03 +0100 (CET) From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2.90; Removed autoload not mentioned in news. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 8.x Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) For ages, I have had these lines in my .emacs: (setq hippie-expand-verbose nil) (setq hippie-expand-try-functions-list (cons 'try-expand-dabbrev-visible hippie-expand-try-functions-list)) With 24.2.90, these now trigger a bug on load: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable hippie-expand-try-functions-list) (cons (quote try-expand-dabbrev-visible) hippie-expand-try-functions-list) ... Comparing hippie-exp.el, I see that the autoload clauses have been removed for these variables -- obviously related to this change: 2012-09-29 Glenn Morris * hippie-exp.el (hippie-expand-try-functions-list) (hippie-expand-verbose, hippie-expand-dabbrev-skip-space) (hippie-expand-dabbrev-as-symbol, hippie-expand-no-restriction) (hippie-expand-max-buffers, hippie-expand-ignore-buffers) (hippie-expand-only-buffers): No need to autoload defcustoms. At least this should be listed as an incompatible lisp change in 24.3 ... In GNU Emacs 24.2.90.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2012-11-24 on kfs-lx2 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11104000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.6 (squeeze) Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: en_DK.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_DK.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: en_DK.utf8 value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: display-time-mode: t cua-mode: t ido-everywhere: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r t - e m Recent messages: C1: nil Loading /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/user/kfs/custom-cvs.el (source)... Loading cua-base...done Loading time...done Loading keypad...done Loading paren...done Loading /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/user/kfs/custom-cvs.el (source)...done C2: t Loading /home/kfs/gm/gm5/tools/cgi-mode.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type M-x about-emacs. Load-path shadows: /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/user/kfs/nero hides /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/lisp/nero /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/lisp/mwheel hides /home/kfs/fsf/emacs-24.2.90/lisp/mwheel /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/lisp/misc hides /home/kfs/fsf/emacs-24.2.90/lisp/misc /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/user/kfs/vcursor hides /home/kfs/fsf/emacs-24.2.90/lisp/vcursor /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/lisp/avoid hides /home/kfs/fsf/emacs-24.2.90/lisp/avoid /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/lisp/printing hides /home/kfs/fsf/emacs-24.2.90/lisp/printing /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/lisp/pong hides /home/kfs/fsf/emacs-24.2.90/lisp/play/pong /home/kfs/emacs/common/emacs/lisp/smtpmail hides /home/kfs/fsf/emacs-24.2.90/lisp/mail/smtpmail Features: (shadow emacsbug message format-spec mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils imenu cgi-mode derived windmove kmacro paren keypad time cua-base cus-start cus-load telnet mailcrypt rfc822 comint ansi-color ring easymenu make begendol ido warnings server cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs disp-table match aux-fct common printing ps-print ps-def lpr time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) -- Kim F. 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