GNU bug report logs - #12967
Texinfo compile failure on IRIX 6.5 (was: Re: failure on IRIX 6.5)

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini <at> gmail.com>
To: Patrice Dumas <pertusus <at> free.fr>
Cc: Karl Berry <karl <at> freefriends.org>, bug-automake <at> gnu.org,
	texinfo-devel <at> gnu.org
Subject: Texinfo compile failure on IRIX 6.5 (was: Re: failure on IRIX 6.5)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:20:46 +0100

[+cc bug-automake]

Hi Patrice, Karl.

On 11/23/2012 03:17 AM, Patrice Dumas wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:52:50PM -0700, Karl Berry wrote:
>>     info do not compile on IRIX 6.5.  There is an error linked with the
>>     call of depcomp.
>>
What is the dependency style determined by configure?  You might
grep for the line "dependency style" in config.log to find out.

>>  It is as if when called with depcomp the C
>>     preprocessor is not correctly used.
>>
>> Is this on the Utah machine (golan)?  Is this with gcc or the system
>> compiler?
> 
> It is on the Utah machine with the system compiler, cc.  It works with
> gcc.
>
Is the failure still present if you run configure with the
"--disable-dependency-tracking" option?

>> If it fails with gcc, I think it's worth pursuing.  If it works with gcc
>> but fails with the system compiler, I think neither we nor the depcomp
>> (automake) maintainers need to care,
>
Actually, as long as we have support in depcomp, we care that it works.
Once there is consensus we should no longer care about a given depmode,
we should remove it from the depcomp script altogether, rather than
keeping it there half-broken.

>> although I know there are still some installations left.
>>
Has been IRIX discontinued?  I wasn't aware of that.  If it has, we
might indeed want to remove support from it from the depcomp script
(that can be done for Automake 1.14).

>> (A volunteer came forward recently to make the
>> binaries for TeX Live, and I'm guessing that same person might care
>> about Texinfo, aside from Nelson.)
> 
> You mean people should test and come up with patches?
> 

Thanks,
  Stefano

Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: karl <at> freefriends.org (Karl Berry)
To: stefano.lattarini <at> gmail.com
Cc: pertusus <at> free.fr, bug-automake <at> gnu.org, texinfo-devel <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: Texinfo compile failure on IRIX 6.5 (was: Re: failure on IRIX 6.5)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 22:35:58 GMT

    Has been IRIX discontinued?

According to Wikipedia, IRIX 6.5 will be retired as of December 2013.

k

Message #11 received at 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini <at> gmail.com>
To: Patrice Dumas <pertusus <at> free.fr>, 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: texinfo-devel <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: Texinfo compile failure on IRIX 6.5
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:53:08 +0100

[+cc automake bug#12967]

Hi Patrice.

In future replies, could you avoid dropping the CC: list?  This way,
the details of our discussion will be registered in the Automake
bug tracker.  Thanks.

Now, back to business...

On 11/24/2012 12:26 AM, Patrice Dumas wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:20:46AM +0100, Stefano Lattarini wrote:
>> [+cc bug-automake]
>>
>> Hi Patrice, Karl.
>>
>> On 11/23/2012 03:17 AM, Patrice Dumas wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 05:52:50PM -0700, Karl Berry wrote:
>>>>     info do not compile on IRIX 6.5.  There is an error linked with the
>>>>     call of depcomp.
>>>>
>> What is the dependency style determined by configure?  You might
>> grep for the line "dependency style" in config.log to find out.
> 
> It was 'sgi'.
>
OK, as I thought.  Thanks for confirming.

>> Is the failure still present if you run configure with the
>> "--disable-dependency-tracking" option?
> 
> No, it is not present anymore.
>
OK, so it is a failure in depcomp.  But at least the package builds
when dependency tracking is disabled.

>> Has been IRIX discontinued?  I wasn't aware of that.  If it has, we
>> might indeed want to remove support from it from the depcomp script
>> (that can be done for Automake 1.14).
> 
> It is supported until december 2013
> http://www.sgi.com/services/support/irix_mips_support.html
> 
Then we have to fix the sgi depmode, I fear.  But I'll need access
to an IRIX system to do so myself.  Another possibility is to simply
remove the sgi depmode; this way, automatic dependency tracking will
automatically be disabled for the SGI C compiler, but at least
simple builds with "./configure; make all" will succeed.

Opinions?

Thanks,
  Stefano

Message #14 received at 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini <at> gmail.com>
To: Patrice Dumas <pertusus <at> free.fr>, 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: texinfo-devel <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#12967: Texinfo compile failure on IRIX 6.5
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:55:10 +0100

On 11/24/2012 09:53 AM, Stefano Lattarini wrote:
> 
> Hi Patrice.
> 
> In future replies, could you avoid dropping the CC: list?  This way,
> the details of our discussion will be registered in the Automake
> bug tracker.  Thanks.
>
Forget it -- I see you did that correctly, and it 's my mailer which
messed up somehow.  Sorry for the confusion and the unwarranted
criticism.

Regards,
  Stefano

Message #17 received at 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: karl <at> freefriends.org (Karl Berry)
To: stefano.lattarini <at> gmail.com
Cc: 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, pertusus <at> free.fr
Subject: Re: Texinfo compile failure on IRIX 6.5
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:55:24 GMT

    I'll need access
    to an IRIX system to do so myself.  

I will ask my friend at Utah for an account for you if you want to
pursue it.  Let me know.

Message #20 received at 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Patrice Dumas <pertusus <at> free.fr>
To: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, texinfo-devel <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: Texinfo compile failure on IRIX 6.5
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:56:55 +0100

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 09:53:08AM +0100, Stefano Lattarini wrote:
> > 
> > It is supported until december 2013
> > http://www.sgi.com/services/support/irix_mips_support.html
> > 
> Then we have to fix the sgi depmode, I fear.  But I'll need access
> to an IRIX system to do so myself.  Another possibility is to simply
> remove the sgi depmode; this way, automatic dependency tracking will
> automatically be disabled for the SGI C compiler, but at least
> simple builds with "./configure; make all" will succeed.

I'd say simply remove the sgi depmode.  I think that there is little
point in doing more work to support a platform that will disappear soon
anyway.  The fact that nobody reported it before is also a sign that it
is not that much important.

-- 
Pat

Message #23 received at 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini <at> gmail.com>
To: Patrice Dumas <pertusus <at> free.fr>, 12967 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 
	texinfo-devel <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#12967: Texinfo compile failure on IRIX 6.5
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:28:27 +0100

Hi Patrice, sorry for the delay.

On 11/25/2012 07:56 PM, Patrice Dumas wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 09:53:08AM +0100, Stefano Lattarini wrote:
>>>
>>> It is supported until december 2013
>>> http://www.sgi.com/services/support/irix_mips_support.html
>>>
>> Then we have to fix the sgi depmode, I fear.  But I'll need access
>> to an IRIX system to do so myself.  Another possibility is to simply
>> remove the sgi depmode; this way, automatic dependency tracking will
>> automatically be disabled for the SGI C compiler, but at least
>> simple builds with "./configure; make all" will succeed.
> 
> I'd say simply remove the sgi depmode.  I think that there is little
> point in doing more work to support a platform that will disappear soon
> anyway.  The fact that nobody reported it before is also a sign that it
> is not that much important.
> 
I got access to an IRIX system, and I couldn't reproduce a failure
with the SGI depmode.  So I say we still keep the SGI depmode in
Automake 1.13, and remove it in Automake 1.14 (which will likely
be out about the time IRIX support from SGI is discontinued).

Regards,
  Stefano

Message #28 received at 12967-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini <at> gmail.com>
To: 12967-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 12978-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: close reports
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:03:44 +0100

References:
<http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12967>
<http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=12978>

The support for SGI compiler has been removed in the master version
of the depcomp script (see commit 'v1.13-11-g35da608'), so I'm closing
these bug reports.

Regards,
  Stefano

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