From unknown Sat Sep 13 11:13:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Resent-From: markskilbeck@gmail.com Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12932 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12932@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13533441187169 (code B ref -1); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:56:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2012 16:55:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55305 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaUcu-0001rX-MJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:55:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46568) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaN4P-0006lV-O4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:51:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaN3K-0005DN-TN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:50:05 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:59057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaN3K-0005DC-Pz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:50:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36110) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaN3H-0000sr-Hj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:50:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaN3E-0005Av-FM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:49:59 -0500 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:44101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaN3E-0005Ak-54 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:49:56 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id gg4so2005511wgb.30 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:49:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=iI+u0Mnz9MeRK5YmTux+GnBk10PFKuC5T7PVCk/hp5U=; b=VOIIrR+8xA2FNczyNsd68540jgUovsaEjJI5Z+lfa6VO0XnK4RQECV4jFuZ7oY5amZ rgriWktpT6rPXfqzVrg+HogdSgnk9G/sil8PWecuw+DyZEFHDRkLN0fux5f3dlQmPpyZ SihryQbUp6u5QoffawXaAPMrj6XwDM34HIaYCsmE+k5pzq2HGsVoi+XHirw9dLwFCrDm 6Mn5CvpWVbfKov6ojEgPTu9cSy/mh/G2K6Ul2U8PaS1i7ZC+ZNQCFXw+7wCew02W8msB BMF3fOZF6x8YvvCj2FrooBlqIHAOjDGnYnXSMb1wwUsWieM6iB7WEVXgOz9KgY1sUlcw jZ6w== Received: by 10.216.198.234 with SMTP id v84mr550252wen.119.1353314994865; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from earth (host86-149-123-242.range86-149.btcentralplus.com. [86.149.123.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm11470406wix.6.2012.11.19.00.49.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:49:53 -0800 (PST) From: markskilbeck@gmail.com Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:49:37 +0000 Message-ID: <87pq3aht9a.fsf@earth.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:55:16 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the documentation[1], the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications. As such, GNOME[-shell] does not allow opening Emacs through means other than using $PATH. -- mgsk In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2012-11-18 on earth Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11103000 Configured using: `configure '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: yas/global-mode: t show-paren-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: Loading em-hist...done Loading em-ls...done Loading em-prompt...done Loading em-script...done Loading em-term...done Loading em-unix...done Loading /home/mgsk/.emacs.d/config-eshell.el (source)...done Loading /home/mgsk/.emacs.d/config-package.el (source)...done Loading /home/mgsk/.emacs.d/config-css.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) From unknown Sat Sep 13 11:13:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12932 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: markskilbeck@gmail.com Cc: 12932@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12932-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12932.13533450488587 (code B ref 12932); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:11:01 +0000 Received: (at 12932) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2012 17:10:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55329 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaUrw-0002ER-6T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:10:48 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:42721) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaUru-0002EL-AH for 12932@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:10:47 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaUqq-0002vx-2O; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:09:40 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <87pq3aht9a.fsf@earth.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-Spook: warfare Bush Wired 2600 Magazine Elvis Comirex chameleon X-Ran: c+"(|`SfAJ^?#JXfo45 (markskilbeck@gmail.com's message of "Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:49:37 +0000") Message-ID: <753905cyek.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) markskilbeck@gmail.com wrote: > When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is > installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the > documentation[1], Reference [1] seems to be missing AFAICS. > the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and > ~/.local/share/applications. Thanks for the report. My initial reaction, without having read the Gnome docs, is that this is a Gnome bug (obviously this won't be a helpful response for you). If I compile something with --prefix=/foo, I get annoyed if it installs files outside /foo. Installing in /usr/share/applications is a definite no-go, because then we could clobber a pre-existing emacs.desktop belonging to the system. I supposed we could perhaps only install here if there was not already an emacs.desktop, but this does not seem like a great solution to me. Installing in ~ is pointless, because it only works for the installing user (doubly bad if this is root). You could of course make your own symlink there to the /foo file, so perhaps what Emacs does now is a reasonable compromise. From unknown Sat Sep 13 11:13:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12932 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: markskilbeck@gmail.com Cc: 12932@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12932-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12932.135335205222317 (code B ref 12932); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 12932) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2012 19:07:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55482 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaWgu-0005nu-8G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:07:32 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:44794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaWgr-0005nn-RZ for 12932@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:07:31 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaWfn-00074y-TH; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:06:23 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <87pq3aht9a.fsf@earth.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <753905cyek.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: blackjack Freeh Verisign AGT. AMME analyzer Islam X-Ran: ",Kw{#Tn$z;j-N^>rCWFZFmmhJ"#IHMg0_F (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:09:39 -0500") Message-ID: <6awqxhpg40.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) I guess we could add an explicit configure option for where the desktop file will be installed ($desktopdir in current Makefile), and leave the default as it is now. I doubt the option will see much use though. But the freedesktop spec does mention (obliquely) /usr/local: http://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html Install Locations If an application is intended to be installed by root on a system wide basis then /usr/share is recommended to be used as value for datadir and /etc/xdg is recommended to be used as value for sysconfdir. In case the /usr/share hierarchy is not writable it is recommended to use /usr/local/share as value for datadir instead. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So, again, it seems like a Gnome bug to me if it doesn't check in /usr/local as well as /usr (I didn't check whether or not it actually does). See also http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html If $XDG_DATA_DIRS is either not set or empty, a value equal to /usr/local/share/:/usr/share/ should be used. Maybe your XDG_DATA_DIRS is set wrongly? Of course, this doesn't help people who install with --prefix != /usr/local From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 19 14:51:10 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2012 19:51:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55546 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaXN7-0007il-9u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:51:09 -0500 Received: from relais.videotron.ca ([24.201.245.36]:26440) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaXN5-0007iZ-0l; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:51:07 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from ceviche.home ([24.201.208.110]) by VL-VM-MR004.ip.videotron.ca (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTP id <0MDR00CMS33C4XB0@VL-VM-MR004.ip.videotron.ca>; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:50:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5E7B3660FF; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:49:55 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Message-id: References: <87pq3aht9a.fsf@earth.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <753905cyek.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <6awqxhpg40.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:49:55 -0500 In-reply-to: <6awqxhpg40.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: tags 12932 notabug thanks > So, again, it seems like a Gnome bug to me if it doesn't check in > /usr/local as well as /usr (I didn't check whether or not it actually > does). Yes, tho I don't care if we should consider it as a bug in Gnome or what else, but the behavior is correct. If the user wants to install into /usr, then she should use "--prefix=/usr". 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: tags 12932 notabug thanks > So, again, it seems like a Gnome bug to me if it doesn't check in > /usr/local as well as /usr (I didn't check whether or not it actually > does). Yes, tho I don't care if we should consider it as a bug in Gnome or what else, but the behavior is correct. If the user wants to install into /usr, then she should use "--prefix=/usr". 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Stefan From unknown Sat Sep 13 11:13:23 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: markskilbeck@gmail.com Subject: bug#12932: closed (Re: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location) Message-ID: References: <87pq3aht9a.fsf@earth.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 12932 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: notabug Reply-To: 12932@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:52:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1353354723-29759-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1353354723-29759-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: tags 12932 notabug thanks > So, again, it seems like a Gnome bug to me if it doesn't check in > /usr/local as well as /usr (I didn't check whether or not it actually > does). Yes, tho I don't care if we should consider it as a bug in Gnome or what else, but the behavior is correct. If the user wants to install into /usr, then she should use "--prefix=/usr". 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[86.149.123.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm11470406wix.6.2012.11.19.00.49.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:49:53 -0800 (PST) From: markskilbeck@gmail.com To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:49:37 +0000 Message-ID: <87pq3aht9a.fsf@earth.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:55:16 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the documentation[1], the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications. As such, GNOME[-shell] does not allow opening Emacs through means other than using $PATH. -- mgsk In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2012-11-18 on earth Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11103000 Configured using: `configure '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: yas/global-mode: t show-paren-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: Loading em-hist...done Loading em-ls...done Loading em-prompt...done Loading em-script...done Loading em-term...done Loading em-unix...done Loading /home/mgsk/.emacs.d/config-eshell.el (source)...done Loading /home/mgsk/.emacs.d/config-package.el (source)...done Loading /home/mgsk/.emacs.d/config-css.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) ------------=_1353354723-29759-1-- From unknown Sat Sep 13 11:13:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Resent-From: Mark Skilbeck Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12932 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Glenn Morris Cc: 12932@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12932-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12932.13533558152272 (code B ref 12932); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 12932) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2012 20:10:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaXfW-0000aX-UC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:10:14 -0500 Received: from li357-97.members.linode.com ([178.79.188.97]:54203 helo=mail.iammark.us) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaXfQ-0000aM-UM for 12932@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:10:09 -0500 Received: by mail.iammark.us (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A4BFAAC46; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:08:58 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:08:58 +0000 From: Mark Skilbeck Message-ID: <20121119200858.GA11400@iammark.us> References: <87pq3aht9a.fsf@earth.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <753905cyek.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <753905cyek.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:09:39PM -0500, Glenn Morris wrote: > markskilbeck@gmail.com wrote: > > > When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is > > installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the > > documentation[1], > > Reference [1] seems to be missing AFAICS. > > > the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and > > ~/.local/share/applications. > > Thanks for the report. My initial reaction, without having read the > Gnome docs, is that this is a Gnome bug (obviously this won't be a > helpful response for you). If I compile something with --prefix=/foo, I > get annoyed if it installs files outside /foo. > > Installing in /usr/share/applications is a definite no-go, because then > we could clobber a pre-existing emacs.desktop belonging to the system. > I supposed we could perhaps only install here if there was not already > an emacs.desktop, but this does not seem like a great solution to me. > > Installing in ~ is pointless, because it only works for the installing > user (doubly bad if this is root). You could of course make your own > symlink there to the /foo file, so perhaps what Emacs does now is a > reasonable compromise. Apologies on the missing reference. Here it is: http://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en The relevant part is: Place this file in the /usr/share/applications directory so that it is accessible by everyone, or in ~/.local/share/applications if you only wish to make it accessible to a single user ... However, I don't know if these are the only paths used--I will have to confirm with GNOME developers. -- mgsk (replying from a different email address)