Package: emacs;
Reported by: markskilbeck <at> gmail.com
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:56:01 UTC
Severity: minor
Tags: notabug
Found in version 24.2
Done: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
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(Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:56:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.markskilbeck <at> gmail.com:bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org.
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From: markskilbeck <at> gmail.com To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:49:37 +0000
When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the documentation[1], the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications. As such, GNOME[-shell] does not allow opening Emacs through means other than using $PATH. -- mgsk In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2012-11-18 on earth Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11103000 Configured using: `configure '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: yas/global-mode: t show-paren-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r t <tab> <return> Recent messages: Loading em-hist...done Loading em-ls...done Loading em-prompt...done Loading em-script...done Loading em-term...done Loading em-unix...done Loading /home/mgsk/.emacs.d/config-eshell.el (source)...done Loading /home/mgsk/.emacs.d/config-package.el (source)...done Loading /home/mgsk/.emacs.d/config-css.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:bug#12932; Package emacs.
(Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:11:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Message #8 received at 12932 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> To: markskilbeck <at> gmail.com Cc: 12932 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:09:39 -0500
markskilbeck <at> gmail.com wrote: > When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is > installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the > documentation[1], Reference [1] seems to be missing AFAICS. > the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and > ~/.local/share/applications. Thanks for the report. My initial reaction, without having read the Gnome docs, is that this is a Gnome bug (obviously this won't be a helpful response for you). If I compile something with --prefix=/foo, I get annoyed if it installs files outside /foo. Installing in /usr/share/applications is a definite no-go, because then we could clobber a pre-existing emacs.desktop belonging to the system. I supposed we could perhaps only install here if there was not already an emacs.desktop, but this does not seem like a great solution to me. Installing in ~ is pointless, because it only works for the installing user (doubly bad if this is root). You could of course make your own symlink there to the /foo file, so perhaps what Emacs does now is a reasonable compromise.
bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:bug#12932; Package emacs.
(Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:08:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Message #11 received at 12932 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> To: markskilbeck <at> gmail.com Cc: 12932 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:06:23 -0500
I guess we could add an explicit configure option for where the desktop
file will be installed ($desktopdir in current Makefile), and leave the
default as it is now. I doubt the option will see much use though.
But the freedesktop spec does mention (obliquely) /usr/local:
http://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html
Install Locations
If an application is intended to be installed by root on a system
wide basis then /usr/share is recommended to be used as value for
datadir and /etc/xdg is recommended to be used as value for
sysconfdir. In case the /usr/share hierarchy is not writable it is
recommended to use /usr/local/share as value for datadir instead.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So, again, it seems like a Gnome bug to me if it doesn't check in
/usr/local as well as /usr (I didn't check whether or not it actually does).
See also
http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
If $XDG_DATA_DIRS is either not set or empty, a value equal to
/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/ should be used.
Maybe your XDG_DATA_DIRS is set wrongly?
Of course, this doesn't help people who install with --prefix != /usr/local
Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
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(Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:52:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>:markskilbeck <at> gmail.com:Message #18 received at 12932-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> Cc: 12932-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, markskilbeck <at> gmail.com Subject: Re: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:49:55 -0500
tags 12932 notabug
thanks
> So, again, it seems like a Gnome bug to me if it doesn't check in
> /usr/local as well as /usr (I didn't check whether or not it actually
> does).
Yes, tho I don't care if we should consider it as a bug in Gnome or what
else, but the behavior is correct.
If the user wants to install into /usr, then she should use "--prefix=/usr".
Stefan
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From: Mark Skilbeck <m <at> iammark.us> To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> Cc: 12932 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12932: 24.2; Installing GNOME .desktop file to incorrect location Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:08:58 +0000
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:09:39PM -0500, Glenn Morris wrote: > markskilbeck <at> gmail.com wrote: > > > When compiling and installing Emacs, the GNOME .desktop file is > > installed to /usr/local/share/applications; however, according to the > > documentation[1], > > Reference [1] seems to be missing AFAICS. > > > the correct locations are: /usr/share/applications and > > ~/.local/share/applications. > > Thanks for the report. My initial reaction, without having read the > Gnome docs, is that this is a Gnome bug (obviously this won't be a > helpful response for you). If I compile something with --prefix=/foo, I > get annoyed if it installs files outside /foo. > > Installing in /usr/share/applications is a definite no-go, because then > we could clobber a pre-existing emacs.desktop belonging to the system. > I supposed we could perhaps only install here if there was not already > an emacs.desktop, but this does not seem like a great solution to me. > > Installing in ~ is pointless, because it only works for the installing > user (doubly bad if this is root). You could of course make your own > symlink there to the /foo file, so perhaps what Emacs does now is a > reasonable compromise. Apologies on the missing reference. Here it is: http://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en The relevant part is: Place this file in the /usr/share/applications directory so that it is accessible by everyone, or in ~/.local/share/applications if you only wish to make it accessible to a single user ... However, I don't know if these are the only paths used--I will have to confirm with GNOME developers. -- mgsk (replying from a different email address)
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