From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:17:15 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#12922 <12922@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#12922 <12922@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work Reply-To: bug#12922 <12922@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:17:15 +0000 retitle 12922 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work reassign 12922 emacs submitter 12922 Dani Moncayo severity 12922 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 07:37:49 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 12:37:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52329 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta48D-0002bc-1u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:37:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta48B-0002bV-2W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:37:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta47C-0007jN-D1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:49 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:58048) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta47C-0007jJ-9g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:46 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta479-0008Tv-1q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta475-0007gj-Vc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:42 -0500 Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:38182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta475-0007gZ-QD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:36:39 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id lz20so4628819obb.0 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:36:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5TIeTl+dTHKW4tOYeJthDelyXy6yhFcDJh5NuTcpgUw=; b=WB1a58fDtveu/zD6eYdz7kitWEnCyUSKTt4Lm9LDlvpROWVjTCsM74lArwi8RQswUd E8Re6+RXoUCRJ3SCSY+c60yK1ZPZ09ju5IsYATuQW8ENMc+M0dy5Gjr1/Doy0dQXEjVw l6rBOQ2PlEuKrLGDjJys6CEUKezWV9YajM1CoMgWPshDMFogHrO2nKc0m2pM6fCaOeuD pO/Vc/dmMPKZz+v8KkfbxSquBgBL/E4/DaUCNRwGNJgAlIZWZnFhP12D1Gn7q3oHOgYY vrPd9o9rA2x0btHKrHXmx/yDg+6CMv+5cE3csH3jmJLgXRUqeWTWQT04jcLdOzfwrGoV oHQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.32.210 with SMTP id l18mr4850413oei.99.1353242199110; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.64.170 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:36:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:36:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work From: Dani Moncayo To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) Hi, (Maybe I'm missing something, but I fail to see what) I've read this paragraph in (info "(emacs) Display Custom"): If the mouse pointer lies inside an Emacs frame, Emacs makes it invisible each time you type a character to insert text, to prevent it from obscuring the text. (To be precise, the hiding occurs when you type a "self-inserting" character. *Note Inserting Text::.) Moving the mouse pointer makes it visible again. To disable this feature, set the variable `make-pointer-invisible' to `nil'. When I try to test that feature, the mouse pointer never hides. It only changes between the arrow (when the pointer is over an empty area) and the "I-beam" (when the pointer is over some text). I've tested this with Emacs -Q, with the current trunk, with the current emacs-24 branch, and with the 24.2, 24.1 and 23.4 releases. In all cases the behavior is the same (mouse pointer remains visible after typing text). In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2012-11-18 on MS-W7-DANI Bzr revision: 110940 cyd@gnu.org-20121118053813-ijg6257029399jtu Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.10/src -Ic:/emacs/libs/libpng-1.2.37-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/zlib-1.2.5 -Ic:/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1-lib/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -Ic:/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9-w32-bin/include -Ic:/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.9.2-1-lib/include' Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 10:31:26 2012 Received: (at 12922) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 15:31:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta6qD-0006Yc-PV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:31:25 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:40673) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta6qB-0006YS-MR for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:31:24 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MDO00G00WD1TX00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:30:23 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MDO00F3MWENL8N0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:30:23 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:29:58 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Dani Moncayo Message-id: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: severity 12922 wishlist stop > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:36:38 +0100 > From: Dani Moncayo > > I've read this paragraph in (info "(emacs) Display Custom"): > > If the mouse pointer lies inside an Emacs frame, Emacs makes it > invisible each time you type a character to insert text, to prevent it > from obscuring the text. (To be precise, the hiding occurs when you > type a "self-inserting" character. *Note Inserting Text::.) Moving > the mouse pointer makes it visible again. To disable this feature, set > the variable `make-pointer-invisible' to `nil'. > > When I try to test that feature, the mouse pointer never hides. It > only changes between the arrow (when the pointer is over an empty > area) and the "I-beam" (when the pointer is over some text). > > I've tested this with Emacs -Q, with the current trunk, with the > current emacs-24 branch, and with the 24.2, 24.1 and 23.4 releases. > In all cases the behavior is the same (mouse pointer remains visible > after typing text). [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.172 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12922 Cc: 12922@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: severity 12922 wishlist stop > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:36:38 +0100 > From: Dani Moncayo > > I've read this paragraph in (info "(emacs) Display Custom"): > > If the mouse pointer lies inside an Emacs frame, Emacs makes it > invisible each time you type a character to insert text, to prevent it > from obscuring the text. (To be precise, the hiding occurs when you > type a "self-inserting" character. *Note Inserting Text::.) Moving > the mouse pointer makes it visible again. To disable this feature, set > the variable `make-pointer-invisible' to `nil'. > > When I try to test that feature, the mouse pointer never hides. It > only changes between the arrow (when the pointer is over an empty > area) and the "I-beam" (when the pointer is over some text). > > I've tested this with Emacs -Q, with the current trunk, with the > current emacs-24 branch, and with the 24.2, 24.1 and 23.4 releases. > In all cases the behavior is the same (mouse pointer remains visible > after typing text). [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.172 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4864] severity 12922 wishlist stop > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:36:38 +0100 > From: Dani Moncayo > > I've read this paragraph in (info "(emacs) Display Custom"): > > If the mouse pointer lies inside an Emacs frame, Emacs makes it > invisible each time you type a character to insert text, to prevent it > from obscuring the text. (To be precise, the hiding occurs when you > type a "self-inserting" character. *Note Inserting Text::.) Moving > the mouse pointer makes it visible again. To disable this feature, set > the variable `make-pointer-invisible' to `nil'. > > When I try to test that feature, the mouse pointer never hides. It > only changes between the arrow (when the pointer is over an empty > area) and the "I-beam" (when the pointer is over some text). > > I've tested this with Emacs -Q, with the current trunk, with the > current emacs-24 branch, and with the 24.2, 24.1 and 23.4 releases. > In all cases the behavior is the same (mouse pointer remains visible > after typing text). This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I marked this "wishlist"; patches are welcome. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 10:39:30 2012 Received: (at 12922) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 15:39:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53063 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta6y1-0006lZ-IN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:39:30 -0500 Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:42520) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta6xy-0006lQ-MJ for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:39:27 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id ef5so3955632obb.3 for <12922@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:38:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ToZw4NBI99v4lfCUVrXHY0HT1ykgOag15Af87Zm4q9s=; b=G1Dnv+SkeNYXyVZ3+x5ctfm7MoF2cSUCHjq3uzJAE7dfy6S2QNPfobo8+N6mz1yr7T xYk7UFixc9556IBLZTUWw0atNQWRr5L2+WWkpIz+L2WMzLYrkAXdS3caAX0FQdVv5ZSG BOOw7Kl1Sr/Lw1ycUv3febDPIG2Ds2A1TfRJpKiWs2LcFToDZ7GiDKMQ7ijFp2z9hVVK mp8frTY9z3UzGWR2KApDt1eUTO8YbN6ZFAcQVB1zGK/6TPhY6IYwKbBdUdMIldq/ooPy I75Xku39WdjwY7PPP2DXDJghvponT0wYO8LtriFPovyDlCRwxnlVY6G6X2kyCGwgaRU/ N6IQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.27.97 with SMTP id s1mr8325132oeg.6.1353253106578; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.64.170 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:38:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:38:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work From: Dani Moncayo To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12922 Cc: 12922@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) > This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I marked this > "wishlist"; patches are welcome. Ok. I suggest putting this clarification in the documentation (docstring and manual) while this feature is not available on MS-Windows. -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 10:55:49 2012 Received: (at 12922) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 15:55:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53076 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta7Dp-000781-EN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:55:49 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:19293) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta7Dm-00077s-FA for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:55:47 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qAIFskvZ004185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:54:47 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qAIFsj7s018968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:54:46 GMT Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qAIFsjod014992; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:54:45 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:54:45 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Dani Moncayo'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:54:35 -0800 Message-ID: <3FD78C07B7124BC5B3A4C02F5B26EE63@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac3FotyY1eQBKcrrS/WGHYVUGamtNAAAfSsQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12922 Cc: 12922@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > > This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I > > marked this "wishlist"; patches are welcome. > > I suggest putting this clarification in the documentation (docstring > and manual) while this feature is not available on MS-Windows. +1 There are also other things regarding the mouse pointer that are not supported on Windows. They too should should be pointed out. I have seen more than one user try to change the pointer attributes in vain. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 12:10:31 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 17:10:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53143 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta8O7-0000O8-HU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:10:31 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:53116) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta8O5-0000O1-Jp for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:10:30 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MDP00H000ZKWP00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:09:29 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MDP00HY80ZTNAB0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:09:29 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:09:04 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Message-id: <831ufq25zj.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: severity 12922 wishlist stop [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.175 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4978] severity 12922 wishlist stop From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 12:12:34 2012 Received: (at 12922) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 17:12:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53147 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta8Q5-0000RJ-RH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:12:34 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:45879) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ta8Q3-0000RB-AE for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:12:32 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MDP00J0012BG600@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:11:30 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MDP00I4O132ONF0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:11:27 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:11:01 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work In-reply-to: <3FD78C07B7124BC5B3A4C02F5B26EE63@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83y5hyzviy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org> <3FD78C07B7124BC5B3A4C02F5B26EE63@us.oracle.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <12922@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:54:35 -0800 > > > > This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I > > > marked this "wishlist"; patches are welcome. > > > > I suggest putting this clarification in the documentation (docstring > > and manual) while this feature is not available on MS-Windows. > > +1 [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.166 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12922 Cc: 12922@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <12922@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:54:35 -0800 > > > > This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I > > > marked this "wishlist"; patches are welcome. > > > > I suggest putting this clarification in the documentation (docstring > > and manual) while this feature is not available on MS-Windows. > > +1 [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.166 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4986] > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <12922@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:54:35 -0800 > > > > This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I > > > marked this "wishlist"; patches are welcome. > > > > I suggest putting this clarification in the documentation (docstring > > and manual) while this feature is not available on MS-Windows. > > +1 We don't normally do that in the manuals, but feel free to suggest changes, perhaps Stefan or Chong will accept them. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 14:40:51 2012 Received: (at 12922) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 19:40:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53273 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaAja-0004gg-AQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:40:51 -0500 Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.219.44]:43408) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaAjY-0004gZ-4U for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:40:49 -0500 Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id n5so4036723oag.3 for <12922@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:39:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eGgDcwkb159X3mCFLhXcUIFjL5AM2fzMLLJ3wIMCaoY=; b=muxV/OXxYOo0nUXgmfoQJp+qGODE+hM/lbamBvlZesD3aQp4BCnCNOGBEempAFMzI1 OK7vbdQMzMkS8w6Ti+GExfoEgVjRWqlv9zeAD5Xquivui0TrJtsoRS2giPyTOadjjki+ W+JqhNxiPlvtcxZN96RWO6SEGT7LWesIhYED3aYrB394H3RposMDBfu3KLQIuE58YPtq w4HOKIlLOoD6oZocvK4Ap/RWnL8DBwwyLgTCba+0OLmPBYQMN/lHMVc188O56OQZyERd X23UR3PwbwlaAVDwjr4tSPHELvGM8jyL6023YBd3VryVy0bPesYOztMVS7dJie9GHsl4 OhmQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.171.228 with SMTP id ax4mr8700834oec.35.1353267584888; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.64.170 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:39:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83y5hyzviy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org> <3FD78C07B7124BC5B3A4C02F5B26EE63@us.oracle.com> <83y5hyzviy.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:39:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work From: Dani Moncayo To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12922 Cc: 12922@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) >> > > This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I >> > > marked this "wishlist"; patches are welcome. >> > >> > I suggest putting this clarification in the documentation (docstring >> > and manual) while this feature is not available on MS-Windows. >> >> +1 > > We don't normally do that in the manuals, but feel free to suggest > changes, perhaps Stefan or Chong will accept them. Not sure about the docstrings, but the Emacs Manual has many references to MS-Windows, explaining things specific to that platform, which obviously is TRT, as that is a supported platform. The very reason for filing this bug report was that I read about a feature that didn't work for me. If the documentation had been accurate, I wouldn't have had to send this bug report. IOW, this is a documentation bug. So, why not fixing it? -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 16:14:56 2012 Received: (at 12922) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 21:14:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53513 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCCc-0006qe-Tj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:14:56 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:43294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCCb-0006qW-7e for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:14:54 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MDP00J00C751L00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 23:12:45 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MDP00IA3C98XS40@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 23:12:45 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 23:12:20 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Dani Moncayo Message-id: <83fw46zkcr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org> <3FD78C07B7124BC5B3A4C02F5B26EE63@us.oracle.com> <83y5hyzviy.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:39:44 +0100 > From: Dani Moncayo > Cc: Drew Adams , 12922@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> > > This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I > >> > > marked this "wishlist"; patches are welcome. > >> > > >> > I suggest putting this clarification in the documentation (docstring > >> > and manual) while this feature is not available on MS-Windows. > >> > >> +1 > > > > We don't normally do that in the manuals, but feel free to suggest > > changes, perhaps Stefan or Chong will accept them. > > Not sure about the docstrings, but the Emacs Manual has many > references to MS-Windows, explaining things specific to that platform, > which obviously is TRT, as that is a supported platform. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.175 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12922 Cc: 12922@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:39:44 +0100 > From: Dani Moncayo > Cc: Drew Adams , 12922@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> > > This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I > >> > > marked this "wishlist"; patches are welcome. > >> > > >> > I suggest putting this clarification in the documentation (docstring > >> > and manual) while this feature is not available on MS-Windows. > >> > >> +1 > > > > We don't normally do that in the manuals, but feel free to suggest > > changes, perhaps Stefan or Chong will accept them. > > Not sure about the docstrings, but the Emacs Manual has many > references to MS-Windows, explaining things specific to that platform, > which obviously is TRT, as that is a supported platform. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.175 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4996] > Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:39:44 +0100 > From: Dani Moncayo > Cc: Drew Adams , 12922@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> > > This feature is not currently supported on MS-Windows. I > >> > > marked this "wishlist"; patches are welcome. > >> > > >> > I suggest putting this clarification in the documentation (docstring > >> > and manual) while this feature is not available on MS-Windows. > >> > >> +1 > > > > We don't normally do that in the manuals, but feel free to suggest > > changes, perhaps Stefan or Chong will accept them. > > Not sure about the docstrings, but the Emacs Manual has many > references to MS-Windows, explaining things specific to that platform, > which obviously is TRT, as that is a supported platform. No, I meant we don't normally say in the manual "this and that feature is not (yet) implemented on this and that platform." Especially if that platform is Windows. > The very reason for filing this bug report was that I read about a > feature that didn't work for me. If the documentation had been > accurate, I wouldn't have had to send this bug report. > > IOW, this is a documentation bug. So, why not fixing it? Because it's not a documentation bug. It's a feature that's missing on one particular platform. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 16:37:03 2012 Received: (at 12922) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 21:37:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53567 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCY3-0008ER-75 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:37:03 -0500 Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.219.44]:64950) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCY1-0008E3-OV for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:37:02 -0500 Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id n5so4084392oag.3 for <12922@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:36:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XfgrRM4PJW3WPQYXHVhkCa5o/Waa1FdnAmQcEdANqns=; b=Hd6s0JEwcoAvYzEBzc0iVFS5MATGaEJ+K2Q/PusETQw0/UB7sbnhk2BBVxiv1kU9Yu nRSEFom3r4XymzWtHpjpHxjmZO1/4sBhBHBBA2hbDmwHAar9wwkDOd8elUaQ8n8kSSgT fnJYQzH9ijI2fTQNqeSLdVh6IYsvSEivixB5I7UuqX1H1cYO0huCCWU6YG51N4GrMhV8 FXrd3Emf7X0I1w7dUyiVKZ7/pj19S+YUK0mQxAKkk8di//NxBB5BxF/B+wMN6WMzyvD7 0idNG+YincY4yB165VjSZGYTBFyXFPJVHPOVYrp53yJ8cPPvp+sRbO9ougT0hdKygUVt h14Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.32.210 with SMTP id l18mr5620982oei.99.1353274561215; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.64.170 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:36:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83fw46zkcr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org> <3FD78C07B7124BC5B3A4C02F5B26EE63@us.oracle.com> <83y5hyzviy.fsf@gnu.org> <83fw46zkcr.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:36:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work From: Dani Moncayo To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12922 Cc: 12922@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) >> > We don't normally do that in the manuals, but feel free to suggest >> > changes, perhaps Stefan or Chong will accept them. >> >> Not sure about the docstrings, but the Emacs Manual has many >> references to MS-Windows, explaining things specific to that platform, >> which obviously is TRT, as that is a supported platform. > > No, I meant we don't normally say in the manual "this and that feature > is not (yet) implemented on this and that platform." Especially if > that platform is Windows. I don't see the point of not doing that. >> The very reason for filing this bug report was that I read about a >> feature that didn't work for me. If the documentation had been >> accurate, I wouldn't have had to send this bug report. >> >> IOW, this is a documentation bug. So, why not fixing it? > > Because it's not a documentation bug. It's a feature that's missing > on one particular platform. To me, a documentation bug is a bug in the documentation, i.e., the program's behavior is the intended one, but the documentation doesn't describes that behavior. And that is what happens here. Definitions aside, the fact is that currently, any user of the MS-Windows port of Emacs will be confused when she reads about the `make-pointer-invisible' variable and notice that the actual behavior of the program does not match the documentation. -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 18 16:48:03 2012 Received: (at 12922) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 21:48:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCig-0008VO-JJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:03 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:33924) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCid-0008Uw-C6 for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:00 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qAILkw7l013239 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:46:58 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qAILkvRw005359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:46:57 GMT Received: from abhmt113.oracle.com (abhmt113.oracle.com [141.146.116.65]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qAILkux5024824; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:46:56 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:46:56 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Dani Moncayo'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org><3FD78C07B7124BC5B3A4C02F5B26EE63@us.oracle.com><83y5hyzviy.fsf@gnu.org><83fw46zkcr.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:46:45 -0800 Message-ID: <477A031D55CA4053A5030621C75BF681@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac3F1LVbiEekSyRuRq2d7IXDk/KEPAAAHIwQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12922 Cc: 12922@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > a bug in the documentation, i.e., the program's behavior is > the intended one, but the documentation doesn't > describes that behavior. And that is what happens here. > > Definitions aside, the fact is that currently, any user of the > MS-Windows port of Emacs will be confused when she reads about the > `make-pointer-invisible' variable and notice that the actual behavior > of the program does not match the documentation. If it is not possible to update the doc wrt specific platforms here and there, describing specific limitations per platform, perhaps it would at least be possible in some cases (like this one) to state that the feature (whatever it is - making the pointer invisible, for instance) "might not be available on some platforms". That would at least give readers a heads-up, so they do not completely wonder what's going on and whether (a) there is perhaps a product bug or (b) they are perhaps misreading the doc. Yes, such a weak caveat is true for nearly all features. But this is not something black-and-white, all-or-nothing. If such caveats are used judiciously, i.e., only in places where we in fact do not support a feature on some platform (especially a commonly used platform) and where we realize there might well be a chance for reader confusion, then I, for one, think they could be helpful. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 06 07:04:34 2015 Received: (at 12922-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2015 11:04:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41519 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZC4CQ-0005FI-5I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 07:04:34 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:61286) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZC4CO-0005F4-Qo for 12922-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 07:04:33 -0400 Received: from [188.22.238.62] ([188.22.238.62]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MUTSJ-1Zc5er03ox-00RLzU; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:04:26 +0200 Message-ID: <559A60B8.8070201@gmx.at> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:04:24 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dani Moncayo , 12922-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:zu0fmUs8vZjoftapYE4llVrTIS07Pxmu8ZyBwgWA684HY6NCVL7 HNrCizP/bTK2bOsyqbAriV4INyN9gO1l+SNs8r7bpaSq/8+rP1UeKA/PBMxqQ8L/uYJ1hlH bByzZPDrippLxhPZUUBcAICMH3lkz7SvkMsPPHyGt1PBSPneoDQSDLSqzSLw2wuxQZTnzq5 z4Fb47i4+UUQAsN/PGrdA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:7ysBjOhunkY=:VIrTX4SNDsHETGa8taR3UK aYpckKxhgrsfaCNnSU+EyEmUWgQLGDa3zRlG+Sfwq0k4h/S9JMY4NLkaix5sJix0xz/HPMq1/ /wQL94BTZst5AdrYGON0I9jdjKHxhVqLAvTBWlhGIezJRDJ7kGZZHknM2KlCvRJyxc7SdZQVA qGPj/lEavIpJaTwwwpj5qJjGc5GExFKo9I7B2i0OxW7iN3wZ/M7A+tFfiFO0X6ifOdyOJexEO stlxAImapW2tUK2+Wr+9P3KissPaEl/BMQUfFKaAqjMbHAJ1BIxpPOp7VVB+mmew5e305lgAP +KH/FFUDACYZOEAkMX/mNjpALtZWBn2KGrYgtDYk0kLV27MwpWan4Ic9vsLLzOsmizMk8330c 0H3lE6XyHyKiL/v+Jw9wAkm2LgAJzo4qDrZvpMo5uDehiWi4zGTEZnmq8q9k+PCLG31fO6fdW FiWdR/DmJuHosgMWXZzmzbMqOCosIQyGwP9SqiKpn3E/6wwIp7C4+Vpc1bq9tNOOGHDYJy14b XYP+c5UtG9HWPOOPECzacBgrJevQaOQAvGavFKcSJIzmLOegLQhiTlTeMmGSyB4Gx1X2IHO8X yyaUf6zLrnWfdSp5vQirHBliM0uAVu1HnbfA1dkEx8E8q01WXuKEafPUSup7XwwKQODuKpN6T v08BTgWyOQIqeG5J+JbLy22nxZdd83Oc0b9GyAEEoWzaBJd4s6DCjCGtCYGSNQcrCTsQ= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12922-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Version: 25.1 > I've read this paragraph in (info "(emacs) Display Custom"): > > If the mouse pointer lies inside an Emacs frame, Emacs makes it > invisible each time you type a character to insert text, to prevent it > from obscuring the text. (To be precise, the hiding occurs when you > type a "self-inserting" character. *Note Inserting Text::.) Moving > the mouse pointer makes it visible again. To disable this feature, set > the variable `make-pointer-invisible' to `nil'. > > When I try to test that feature, the mouse pointer never hides. It > only changes between the arrow (when the pointer is over an empty > area) and the "I-beam" (when the pointer is over some text). > > I've tested this with Emacs -Q, with the current trunk, with the > current emacs-24 branch, and with the 24.2, 24.1 and 23.4 releases. > In all cases the behavior is the same (mouse pointer remains visible > after typing text). > > > In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) > of 2012-11-18 on MS-W7-DANI This should work with Emacs 25.1. Bug closed. 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