GNU bug report logs - #12911
24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written

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Message #99 received at 12911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 12911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams <at> oracle.com
Subject: Re: bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether)
	`emacs_backtrace.txt'	files are written
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 05:58:33 +0200

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 12911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:15:17 -0500
> 
> > Making it in ~/.emacs.d on w32 alone doesn't change the basic fact
> > that most of the users we care about will still have their backtraces
> > in random places.
> 
> No, ~/.xsesson-errors is not a random place.  Even if the user doesn't
> know it, we do.

This place is also platform-specific.  Not on every Posix platform
stderr is put there.

> > Why not change that on all platforms?
> 
> Because stderr is good enough under GNU/Linux (and it's easy to
> redirect when it matters).

And the current arrangement on Windows is good enough for that system.

> > Why demand that only of w32?
> 
> Because currently w32 users get annoyed with new files appearing where
> they don't want any.

Only one user complained so far.

> If you prefer to always send it to stderr under Windows, please do
> so, I really couldn't care less if that means it's usually sent to
> /dev/null.

Well, I do care, so I wrote the code to be better than that.

> No, writing to an arbitrary file in the current directory is not
> a good arrangement.

I disagree, obviously.

> I didn't like the backtrace business to start with and am finding it
> worse by the day.

Should I say "told you so"?

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