From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 11 15:25:55 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2012 20:25:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33636 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TXe6M-0001kN-Ml for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:25:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37337) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TXe6L-0001kG-7W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:25:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXe5y-0004xa-29 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:25:33 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:56438) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXe5x-0004xV-Uw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:25:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47931) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXe5u-0006SI-SV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:25:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXe5r-0004x7-QK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:25:26 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30281) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TXe5r-0004x1-K4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:25:23 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qABKPLQN000988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:25:22 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qABKPLMa003102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:25:21 GMT Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qABKPKlA032203 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:25:20 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:25:20 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.3.50; bad & confusing Customize `State' Menu behavior Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:25:12 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac3ASqaykN9Mt/e1R8qDVrm2QztCHQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) emacs -Q M-x customize-option delete-old-versions Value Menu: Leave State: Revert This Session's Customization The State is now back to STANDARD, which is correct. In the State menu, this item is not dimmed, but should be, since there should be no backup value different from the original value (Ask): Set to Backup Value. Choose Set to Backup Value anyway. The State now shows "SET for current session only, which is incorrect (at best misleading). The State menu now shows items Set to Backup Value and Revert This Session's Customization, both of which are incorrect and misleading. (The current value is the standard value, and we reverted to it. Choose Revert This Session's Customization anyway. State now says CHANGED outside Customize, which is 100% wrong. And the State menu shows Undo Edits, Revert This Session's Customization, and Set to Backup Value, all of which are wrong (and confusing). Choose Undo Edits anyway. It has no visible effect - State and its menu stay the same. Again, confusing. Choose Set to Backup Value anyway. State now says SET for current session only, which is (still) wrong. And the same menu items are available, except Undo Edits. Choosing Set to Backup Value again has no visible effect. Choosing Revert This Session's Customization has the same incorrect effect as before (adds Undo Edits to the menu and changes State to CHANGED outside Customize. This is a confusing mess. Without emacs -Q it is even more confusing, with Reset to Saved added to the mix. One thing that is not clear in the behavior is that Set to Backup Value seems sometimes to be available without Reset to Saved (even without emacs -Q). If you have made changes to the value that have not been saved, then I would think that Reset to Saved would always be available (until you choose it or you save). In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-11-05 on MS-W7-DANI Bzr revision: 110809 lekktu@gmail.com-20121105172930-a5gn0bwi4lndchhw Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -I../../libs/libXpm-3.5.10/include -I../../libs/libXpm-3.5.10/src -I../../libs/libpng-1.2.37-lib/include -I../../libs/zlib-1.2.5 -I../../libs/giflib-4.1.4-1-lib/include -I../../libs/jpeg-6b-4-lib/include -I../../libs/tiff-3.8.2-1-lib/include -I../../libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -I../../libs/gnutls-3.0.9-w32-bin/include -I../../libs/libiconv-1.9.2-1-lib/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 01 12:03:16 2020 Received: (at 12864) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2020 16:03:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56897 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kD8kd-0001XM-SK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:03:16 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f41.google.com ([209.85.128.41]:51602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kD8kb-0001X7-Bv for 12864@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:03:14 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f41.google.com with SMTP id w2so1688295wmi.1 for <12864@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 09:03:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=px2wsZRbnwLi+0rZdhRvYBTZPNWiIVhUgDQGGgpLJMk=; b=b39EW3kc6LGUxN46QaAJgZlyFdlrxQtfiNqO/HhLoyvvQJ7m7pHCqTUpXD344VJjSe Abu6mhDQIss9eL8pT8AEiADaMHhe+5qmaKdzmd4b/CLQlc62kfPPQrm/6C/GX1TMwJHO Jy/ACw3QMOtHt9sf/kDZncxEZF9MDrbG4WMxbkp3j31mWDv6FaETDWwfcxRoIsJv8pys HFpUKCdjVhEav8PM4GeBS5OBplJJOJbVFJgWuS7VcNhDnPvKtDokuSpoEPSQ3kLOaz7d OAa8BoK4mHx6eopH6W2ZW9NH8IHbZxU2zu9+kpBENiASEbdYLdc8jevaUkJh3D6pM8RE 9ChA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=px2wsZRbnwLi+0rZdhRvYBTZPNWiIVhUgDQGGgpLJMk=; b=dSnChCVS2n1mW2t26RGm5W9JKbx+bY0b6BCX/xL/BT6aGg2Ra39PS2Bg9S/VgtFtpL ennPurwW07DDk2LEHIuCkOGnchqZS/ybwfBOAvyP0VdoKLDLoPG38pglKpskAY8vPuk1 9/8jw2CzILyM2CX7LLyy/0IRzdEYib4tHPpbMEo7C0aRDHFepiwY0iiaLevpbljcx0e5 Oto7x/naLpfPHR18QJ1cRFIoZC2q4SgpIFv7cjFWORjCiDwMb07YEJe8Owd75UWeOaXh OpkU3LOHojWTqAkCeLouTSmjfhlGMvSAE5AljkhmDIuv6mUd88noTPaHMHbJugVSCD8s YB6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Ej248ooQr+L6v8vJbCn78xrYZaO1gOdkJcl1OrjIW+bos6d9t ZYXjftwbdt67zfl5nkHQJSJbj1yVo7HxjSnXQMZEKZyWNk/iHA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyHQDtC4HJbvWmyrMFuhnldHodIX/DsT/hRSlHWFqAEGMgLcKE/OYc7EmGzHDzfXPljnhky45dOH//0eEefGLw= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:1b43:: with SMTP id b64mr2593588wmb.6.1598976186898; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 09:03:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mauro Aranda Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 13:02:55 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12864: 24.3.50; bad & confusing Customize `State' Menu behavior To: 12864@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009fde1805ae42a7ac" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12864 Cc: Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000009fde1805ae42a7ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Drew Adams writes: > emacs -Q > > M-x customize-option delete-old-versions > > Value Menu: Leave > > State: Revert This Session's Customization > > The State is now back to STANDARD, which is correct. > > In the State menu, this item is not dimmed, but should be, since there > should be no backup value different from the original value (Ask): Set > to Backup Value. Would it make sense to guard against backing up a value, if it's the same as the new one? That way, Set to Backup Value would be disabled in this situation. > Choose Set to Backup Value anyway. The State now shows "SET for current > session only, which is incorrect (at best misleading). I think this is a bug in `custom-variable-state': the first cond clause doesn't check if value is equal to the standard-value, so it just returns 'set. It should check for it and return the correct state. > The State menu now shows items Set to Backup Value and Revert This > Session's Customization, both of which are incorrect and misleading. > (The current value is the standard value, and we reverted to it. Doing the two fixes above will fix this... > Choose Revert This Session's Customization anyway. > > State now says CHANGED outside Customize, which is 100% wrong. And the > State menu shows Undo Edits, Revert This Session's Customization, and > Set to Backup Value, all of which are wrong (and confusing). ...But this message can still appear when it shouldn't: emacs -Q M-x customize-option RET delete-old-versions Set the variable to Delete, for the current session. Set to Backup Value, to bring back the standard value of delete-old-versions. Then Revert This Session's Customization. This is a bug in `custom-variable-reset-saved': it is not resetting the 'variable-comment property of the variable when there is no saved-value, and that confuses `custom-variable-state'. > Choose Undo Edits anyway. It has no visible effect - State and its menu > stay the same. Again, confusing. > > Choose Set to Backup Value anyway. > > State now says SET for current session only, which is (still) wrong. > And the same menu items are available, except Undo Edits. Choosing Set > to Backup Value again has no visible effect. Choosing Revert This > Session's Customization has the same incorrect effect as before (adds > Undo Edits to the menu and changes State to CHANGED outside Customize. > I think this is just a consequence of the above three bugs. IOW, no new bug here. I'm not sure how to proceed here: should I send different patches for the bugs, or put the fixes altogether in one patch? --0000000000009fde1805ae42a7ac Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Drew Adams <dr= ew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> emacs -Q
> =C2=A0
= > M-x customize-option delete-old-versions
> =C2=A0
> Value = Menu: Leave
> =C2=A0
> State: Revert This Session's Customi= zation
>
> The State is now back to STANDARD, which is correct.=
> =C2=A0
> In the State menu, this item is not dimmed, but sho= uld be, since there
> should be no backup value different from the or= iginal value (Ask): Set
> to Backup Value.

Would it make sense= to guard against backing up a value, if it's the
same as the new on= e? That way, Set to Backup Value would be disabled in
this situation.
> Choose Set to Backup Value anyway.=C2=A0 The State now shows &quo= t;SET for current
> session only, which is incorrect (at best mislead= ing).

I think this is a bug in `custom-variable-state': the firs= t cond clause
doesn't check if value is equal to the standard-value,= so it just
returns 'set.=C2=A0 It should check for it and return th= e correct state.

> The State menu now shows items Set to Backup V= alue and Revert This
> Session's Customization, both of which are= incorrect and misleading.
> (The current value is the standard value= , and we reverted to it.

Doing the two fixes above will fix this...<= br>
> Choose Revert This Session's Customization anyway.
> = =C2=A0
> State now says CHANGED outside Customize, which is 100% wron= g.=C2=A0 And the
> State menu shows Undo Edits, Revert This Session&#= 39;s Customization, and
> Set to Backup Value, all of which are wrong= (and confusing).
=C2=A0
...But this message can still appear when i= t shouldn't:
emacs -Q
M-x customize-option RET delete-old-version= s
Set the variable to Delete, for the current session.
Set to Backup = Value, to bring back the standard value of
delete-old-versions.
Then = Revert This Session's Customization.

This is a bug in `custom-va= riable-reset-saved': it is not resetting the
'variable-comment p= roperty of the variable when there is no saved-value,
and that confuses = `custom-variable-state'.

> Choose Undo Edits anyway.=C2=A0 It= has no visible effect - State and its menu
> stay the same.=C2=A0 Ag= ain, confusing.
> =C2=A0
> Choose Set to Backup Value anyway.> =C2=A0
> State now says SET for current session only, which is= (still) wrong.
> And the same menu items are available, except Undo = Edits.=C2=A0 Choosing Set
> to Backup Value again has no visible effe= ct.=C2=A0 Choosing Revert This
> Session's Customization has the = same incorrect effect as before (adds
> Undo Edits to the menu and ch= anges State to CHANGED outside Customize.
> =C2=A0

I think thi= s is just a consequence of the above three bugs.=C2=A0 IOW, no new
bug h= ere.

I'm not sure how to proceed here: should I send different p= atches for
the bugs, or put the fixes altogether in one patch?
--0000000000009fde1805ae42a7ac-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 01 12:21:00 2020 Received: (at 12864) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2020 16:21:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56952 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kD91o-0001yq-3V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:21:00 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f54.google.com ([209.85.208.54]:40319) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kD91n-0001yb-6a for 12864@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 12:20:59 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f54.google.com with SMTP id l21so2036127eds.7 for <12864@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 09:20:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wkgAEP+MoVWKhTRqTlyEEiQbFX9i8jKqIbrrckfFpko=; b=tkwYFvvOUtW4ZbeFFGfYDjtJVgKP9IcDKmX3TfVARkQm2v1XUMTO/clYDHH+iCt0u4 SRaYaD5OE5coCoHhcDmUt+ePloScndAqW5iDjlToGZGxBizQhjICafxm5MCewP8beg0f qo1XSOGmfpuvrJnkObHQLDGjadtMcZU871qYlzTn8BI35K5jmvDm6THOxAGPUmk5Nn63 0DGNOtMkCjt/EnP7rFF7CbbO/xKY+MAhcDfeWTAwoprMJns5Ek3AeDNPu4WvzMF7qhBb SBIysMhHkqPJm/41raedtVDdEV1/MHcSEkClzjxIVRc40LNmRDmBSpTL6zAuopMoT7dO W2AQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wkgAEP+MoVWKhTRqTlyEEiQbFX9i8jKqIbrrckfFpko=; b=sA8M0pTAav/8Qq39JMY/0lKHKbPV5789Q0NejJb8TfBnmL57YX5s0HkjHm8AqBn174 DZtlAttnEKRMBqjkgaXdyaGRxCcEWQdT1VT++tZk3id2TASHM01Xza47t7gat7tKSQN7 5epsGZ7qx72pqG7JqoVupT5kHwnvUHDUed6dw2pfLXOHQWSQBlZSPs6IM1WxdXaGA8Ta qUBYa/uNgJlThiWaI+jYnhAuLnRlsFA4b6E2K/2vYgikls+fhlqPVJGYpDGi2shpo1Ju 1uYQ9yQgwXmtQEnhJZ3vW8i0lQtpRrmbmPrJh1pMqKtOhak7cXoEnTARUXB2Abvw/GDE 4LwA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531KdTpQbmSljaeujhjF1m0FZqW9lFUtK4lATa+Z2opvyrjC7qPt w9+DyOHyoKeOb97wiogpyjefXOhltGGBjtaS5DQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxAu/MY6v5MniWqcqHXBGx3KDP43LYe3D+gr+aP91Za4Uy3CEhGr8kSsE2tALJGox9Rux/oZOH+QdbaEb6ieQo= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c0d5:: with SMTP id j21mr2536512edp.259.1598977253428; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 09:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 1 Sep 2020 09:20:52 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 09:20:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12864: 24.3.50; bad & confusing Customize `State' Menu behavior To: Mauro Aranda , 12864@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12864 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: > I'm not sure how to proceed here: should I send different patches for > the bugs, or put the fixes altogether in one patch? Some other projects emphasize smaller and logically self-contained patches. Here, the preference definitely seems to be towards making bigger patches rather than many small ones. But I'm not aware of any strict policy in this regard; it seems to be mostly at your own discretion. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but my take is this: It's really up to what you feel makes more sense: if they are closely related, you might prefer sending them in one patch; otherwise, it might be better to send the changes in separate patches. (My personal preference is to avoid bundling unrelated changes. But I don't always work like that in Emacs.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 01 16:17:49 2020 Received: (at 12864) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2020 20:17:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57439 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDCiy-00026B-Qm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 16:17:49 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f45.google.com ([209.85.221.45]:36203) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDCix-00025w-4f for 12864@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 16:17:47 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f45.google.com with SMTP id z1so2916146wrt.3 for <12864@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 13:17:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bxOFsJqL1T6mIIrvrctQ0PVTl/To3hJtRh1121IQoe8=; b=EEGN679cHx2/npoNycxxVhtkrE94mTQkYPsz1nkZkYtIvBO20uizLOdWHSHCEhuMTW SkacwMQxtp8QpVqV5lgLDUeoIURENe9k+fT3+7xPmK+MnMaGrJEj6Ss3et72rgK3qIXq Bng4+h0gXpH3396b1IpXf/wv4CpYpf5/n9MyVVTuPVtTv7sE2B0/QAIPbso4JwKF7Ow1 c1q/IS/DW9PHa3z3njvyBnfF9Ahc3/Nwom3/AAHM5Oos0trRD4RGz2MBNnqhBhDzZaM9 63cge5XGCC3RnKNuDSVJV2t0fG/UZm8sv73DiZbwGfKD6AQP9RLKdDw4cVUNEpBax0N/ yRXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bxOFsJqL1T6mIIrvrctQ0PVTl/To3hJtRh1121IQoe8=; b=MY48cVarIgr3xIKeOc8eHqhTXwp0OUUdjD4Pyd09CAgsOy3vWiFAba6TErEMzn0f4B 782NLlaI7XixxBAEly/zLcfe4C3OyqDGn76lPRw1jwjeBgUagKojuzUVPDIdxDCdHv3D Tu7KSbhQf5qsWwSdIcoD5KKsbRc9B2hIH2Ihp2sRVqOtLhKliml6SiMu3ePEDnvCPNCc Wht9pepnRxovvkpZZaHeud12gOrWOLM0mQgxs5utJ9X+yIjZglCSoLw3/3Q2jroeuAes YBjMCD5N2ubnOFRAVlAy1yIV3M1GW8AYsoa8xMTqp28LMI+/ekHwtIruHaAAiTYZFwJ3 +NTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531CuEAmhjhibmAuW4hY0yB45CgG8M+FJbCpiQ/uEWiFNfkkUDD8 vuKIK9cr+q6unh90wydHLhNjv0zGtuoWvpjS3sc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx8PhcXi9QXUuCoZDQUY+U02Gp5WVA2QqJA7dEfu7MtF+Yy0BDbKgsA7OEuyqrkUpS1lSybNyc3fkyyyntUZZQ= X-Received: by 2002:adf:e411:: with SMTP id g17mr3859715wrm.77.1598991461263; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Mauro Aranda Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 17:17:29 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12864: 24.3.50; bad & confusing Customize `State' Menu behavior To: Stefan Kangas Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0000000000000c501905ae463665" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12864 Cc: 12864@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000000c501905ae463665 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000c501805ae463663" --0000000000000c501805ae463663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Stefan Kangas writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: > >> I'm not sure how to proceed here: should I send different patches for >> the bugs, or put the fixes altogether in one patch? > > It's really up to what you feel makes more sense: if they are closely > related, you might prefer sending them in one patch; otherwise, it might > be better to send the changes in separate patches. > Hello Stefan, Thanks for your answer. I went with a single patch. If after seeing the patch someone feels it should be split, just let me know. Please review, and thanks. --0000000000000c501805ae463663 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> writes:

> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:=
>
>> I'm not sure how to proceed here: should I send di= fferent patches for
>> the bugs, or put the fixes altogether in on= e patch?
>
> It's really up to what you feel makes more sen= se: if they are closely
> related, you might prefer sending them in o= ne patch; otherwise, it might
> be better to send the changes in sepa= rate patches.
>

Hello Stefan,

Thanks for your answer.
I went with a single patch.=C2=A0 If after seeing the patch someone f= eels it
should be split, just let me know.

Please review, and tha= nks.
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" tags 12864 patch quit Mauro Aranda writes: > I went with a single patch. If after seeing the patch someone feels it > should be split, just let me know. ping. I've been using Customize with this patch, without noticing any trouble. I hope someone can review it soon. --00000000000015ee3305b2439513 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:
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> should be split, just let me know.

ping.
I've been using Customize with this patch, without noticing any
tro= uble.=C2=A0 I hope someone can review it soon.
--00000000000015ee3305b2439513-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 22 10:56:54 2020 Received: (at 12864) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2020 14:56:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53484 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kVc1O-0008WN-9N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:56:54 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44596) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kVc1N-0008W8-2g for 12864@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:56:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uxrIYioxpf1rMnXsKi78RZa/Zgk6536MAmMUOwls5m8=; b=lvcUEJDIL5yTZdZhNcQOp+qFoN a1sC9rHvQtM5nNmxd/EHPlsjQc8GCFXCunJlT785kHOrmDIcYTsL2SKPHjj1sp7EoQK9YZNZc7Bwa pt5c+GgUIQWHgDnlyXHY3BS7V/w7mFr68b9IV3ZlkyM2alrhBtJKnVofKo6d7NG44gCg=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kVc1E-00051J-3T; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:56:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#12864: 24.3.50; bad & confusing Customize `State' Menu behavior References: X-Now-Playing: Cosey Fanni Tutti's _Tutti_: "En" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:56:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:50:01 -0300") Message-ID: <87eelqjolx.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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I hope someone can review it soon. > > Skimming it, it looks fine to me, so I've pushed it to the trunk. Thanks. > And if there's any more outstanding patches of yours that has fallen > between the cracks, please do ping the relevant bug reports. I think I've run out of those, unfortunately. All I have is some tests that demonstrate the problem in Bug#21355, but I haven't worked in a fix yet. --00000000000058bd6e05b243ec9e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars Ingebrigtsen <la= rsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:
>
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>> trouble.=C2=A0 I hope someone can review it soon.
>
= > Skimming it, it looks fine to me, so I've pushed it to the trunk.<= br>
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> And if there's any more outstanding patches = of yours that has fallen
> between the cracks, please do ping the rel= evant bug reports.

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> Thanks for working on this,= Mauro.
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No need to thank me, it's my pleasure.
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