From unknown Fri Sep 12 04:35:16 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#12833 <12833@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#12833 <12833@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages Reply-To: bug#12833 <12833@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 11:35:16 +0000 retitle 12833 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overrid= den by messages reassign 12833 emacs submitter 12833 "Sebastien Vauban" severity 12833 minor tag 12833 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 08 08:11:47 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2012 13:11:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55577 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TWRtY-0003dh-9U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:11:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TWRtR-0003dW-Qp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:11:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWRtC-0000HW-5p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:11:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FROM_LOCAL_NOVOWEL, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM, HK_RANDOM_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:55009) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWRtC-0000HM-1j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:11:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41032) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWRsz-00088S-Iq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:11:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWRsq-0000Em-TT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:11:09 -0500 Received: from 81-188-7-133.sdsl.easynet.be ([81.188.7.133]:45465 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWRsp-0000Dc-LR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:11:00 -0500 Received: from MEDIACENTER. (mediacenter [10.10.10.51]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 332A2500C26 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:34:53 +0100 (CET) From: "Sebastien Vauban" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages Organization: Sebastien Vauban X-Url: Under construction... 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Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': Here a recipe to reproduce the symptom explained in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2012-04/msg00014.html 1. Take the following minimal Emacs file: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ;; "source" of the problem (defadvice require (around require-around) "Leave a trace of packages being loaded." (let* ((feature (ad-get-arg 0))) (cond ((featurep feature) (message "(info) Requiring `%s'... already loaded" feature) (setq ad-return-value feature)) (t (let ((my/time-start)) (message "(info) Requiring `%s'..." feature) (setq my/time-start (float-time)) ad-do-it (message "(info) Requiring `%s'... %s (loaded in %.2f s)" feature (locate-library (symbol-name feature)) (- (float-time) my/time-start))))))) (ad-activate 'require) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- 2. Load the minimal Emacs. 3. Create a new file. 4. Apply org-mode on it (M-x org-mode). You see the information from the defadvice: every require'd package gets tracing info (from where, in how much time). 5. Create a headline with M-RET 6. Schedule a date from that item with `C-c C-s': the prompt for the date gets hidden (for something like 5 seconds) by the "require" message (though, that happened before displaying the prompt). This is reproducible ever and ever, in the same session. For the sake of clarity, please find a screencast of the problem: http://screencast.com/t/fmmkKf3CJ If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file c:/Program Files/Emacs-24.2/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-10-22 on DANI-PC Bzr revision: 110618 monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20121022132928-232zm0fecassmhfb Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -I../../libs/libxpm-3.5.8/include -I../../libs/libxpm-3.5.8/src -I../../libs/libpng-1.4.10 -I../../libs/zlib-1.2.6 -I../../libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -I../../libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -I../../libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -I../../libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -I../../libs/gnutls-3.0.16/include -I../../libs/libiconv-1.14-2-mingw32-dev/include' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t TeX-PDF-mode: t gnus-topic-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t helm-match-plugin-mode: t recentf-mode: t global-auto-complete-mode: t pretty-control-l-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-s C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-x C-s C-x h M-w C-c n G G v a u b a n g G G n i e s s e n G G v a C-u 2 0 0 0 / a v a u n / a v a u b C-u 4 0 0 0 / o / a A T C-SPC C-c g r N N q M-x r e p o r t - e m C-g M-x r e p o r t - e m Recent messages: (info) +-> Requiring `gnus-group'... already loaded [2 times] (info) +-> Requiring `sort'... already loaded (info) +-> Requiring `helm-misc'... already loaded Quit (info) +-> Requiring `helm-misc'... already loaded (info) +-> Requiring `sendmail'... already loaded (info) +-> Requiring `message'... already loaded (info) +-> Requiring 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E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="209077956" Received: from 108-161-115-152.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.115.152]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Dec 2012 15:14:08 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CB26958C73; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:14:07 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: bug#12833: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages Message-ID: References: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:14:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:34:53 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12833 Cc: 12833@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 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Schedule a date from that item with `C-c C-s': the prompt for the > date gets hidden (for something like 5 seconds) by the "require" > message (though, that happened before displaying the prompt). > This is reproducible ever and ever, in the same session. It shouldn't be 5 seconds, but more like 2 seconds (or rather "whatever time it takes to display the messages plus setup the minibuffer plus 2s"). IOW this is `minibuffer-message-timeout'. What behavior would you like to see instead? Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 04 17:06:21 2012 Received: (at 12833) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Dec 2012 22:06:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53761 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tg0dB-00064g-Gg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:06:21 -0500 Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:39913) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tg0d9-00064V-IO for 12833@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:06:20 -0500 Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821599DA1 for <12833@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 23:06:12 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 15498 invoked by uid 89); 4 Dec 2012 22:06:12 -0000 Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 4 Dec 2012 22:06:12 -0000 Received: from [172.20.199.248] (janiphone [172.20.199.248]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02C127FA05E; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 23:06:12 +0100 (CET) References: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <00010CA2-02C8-4C54-9AAC-0ED463C4DDAB@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10A523) From: =?utf-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= Subject: Re: bug#12833: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 23:06:08 +0100 To: Stefan Monnier X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello. 4 dec 2012 kl. 21:14 skrev Stefan Monnier : >> 6. Schedule a date from that item with `C-c C-s': the prompt for the >> date gets hidden (for something like 5 seconds) by the "require" >> message (though, that happened before displaying the prompt). > >> This is reproducible ever and ever, in the same session. > > It shouldn't be 5 seconds, but more like 2 seconds (or rather "whatever > time it takes to display the messages plus setup the minibuffer plus 2s"). > > IOW this is `minibuffer-message-timeout'. > > What behavior would you like to see instead? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello. 4 dec 2012 kl. 21:14 skrev Stefan Monnier : >> 6. Schedule a date from that item with `C-c C-s': the prompt for the >> date gets hidden (for something like 5 seconds) by the "require" >> message (though, that happened before displaying the prompt). > >> This is reproducible ever and ever, in the same session. > > It shouldn't be 5 seconds, but more like 2 seconds (or rather "whatever > time it takes to display the messages plus setup the minibuffer plus 2s"). > > IOW this is `minibuffer-message-timeout'. > > What behavior would you like to see instead? [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars Hello.=20 4 dec 2012 kl. 21:14 skrev Stefan Monnier : >> 6. Schedule a date from that item with `C-c C-s': the prompt for the >> date gets hidden (for something like 5 seconds) by the "require" >> message (though, that happened before displaying the prompt). >=20 >> This is reproducible ever and ever, in the same session. >=20 > It shouldn't be 5 seconds, but more like 2 seconds (or rather "whatever > time it takes to display the messages plus setup the minibuffer plus 2s").= >=20 > IOW this is `minibuffer-message-timeout'. >=20 > What behavior would you like to see instead? Not speaking for the op, but I would like that messages only went to *Messag= es* and was never shown in the minibuffer if there is a prompt there. Semantic/CEDET is a pain to use because of this with its useless "parsing...= " messages.=20 Jan D.=20= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 04 17:10:41 2012 Received: (at 12833) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Dec 2012 22:10:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53765 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tg0hN-0006AY-3i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:10:41 -0500 Received: from 81-188-7-133.sdsl.easynet.be ([81.188.7.133]:51550 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tg0hK-0006AQ-Ph for 12833@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:10:40 -0500 Received: from MEDIACENTER. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Schedule a date from that item with `C-c C-s': the prompt for the date gets >> hidden (for something like 5 seconds) by the "require" message (though, >> that happened before displaying the prompt). > >> This is reproducible ever and ever, in the same session. > > It shouldn't be 5 seconds, but more like 2 seconds (or rather "whatever time > it takes to display the messages plus setup the minibuffer plus 2s"). > > IOW this is `minibuffer-message-timeout'. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Schedule a date from that item with `C-c C-s': the prompt for the date gets >> hidden (for something like 5 seconds) by the "require" message (though, >> that happened before displaying the prompt). > >> This is reproducible ever and ever, in the same session. > > It shouldn't be 5 seconds, but more like 2 seconds (or rather "whatever time > it takes to display the messages plus setup the minibuffer plus 2s"). > > IOW this is `minibuffer-message-timeout'. [...] Content analysis details: (3.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 HK_RANDOM_FROM From username looks random 0.0 HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM Envelope sender username looks random 0.5 FROM_LOCAL_NOVOWEL From: localpart has series of non-vowel letters 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] 1.0 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS Hi Stefan, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Schedule a date from that item with `C-c C-s': the prompt for the date gets >> hidden (for something like 5 seconds) by the "require" message (though, >> that happened before displaying the prompt). > >> This is reproducible ever and ever, in the same session. > > It shouldn't be 5 seconds, but more like 2 seconds (or rather "whatever time > it takes to display the messages plus setup the minibuffer plus 2s"). > > IOW this is `minibuffer-message-timeout'. Just checked that unknown var (for me): yep, equals 2. The true reality (now that I'm chronometering it) is as well that the messages are more or less displayed for 2 seconds -- but they seemed like 5 looong seconds. > What behavior would you like to see instead? IIUC, the require (of some package) is done before asking whatever question in the minibuffer. So, for me, the same would apply as in other cases... If I do 2 requires in a row (package "A", then package "B"), the message telling I required the first one ("A") will certainly not be visible in the echo area, as immediately after, there is another message being displayed, saying that "B" just got required. What does that change in case of interactive question? If I do 1 require before asking a question to the user, the message about that require should hardly be visible (if visible at all -- because actions happen so quickly). The question should use the space of the information message, point. In the given example here above, things are happening in the function `org-read-date': --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (defun org-read-date (...) "Read a date..." (require 'parse-time) ... (read-string prompt default-input 'org-read-date-history timestr) ...) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- The require of `parse-time' does display a message in the minibuffer (echo area, to be accurate). When executing `read-string', whatever displayed message should disappear and be replaced by the prompt. The prompt, IMO, should never be overridden by a reminiscent message. Am I exposing clearly my point of view (be it shared or not)? Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 04 22:41:47 2012 Received: (at 12833) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2012 03:41:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53940 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tg5rn-0006jD-3G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:41:47 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:54524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tg5rh-0006j3-ED for 12833@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:41:42 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09soXOY/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBVAIjBQsLNBIUGA2IQAW6CY0mgx4DiEKacYFYgwc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="209102561" Received: from 108-161-115-152.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.115.152]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Dec 2012 22:41:35 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D69F558C73; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:41:34 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: WXHGMQZGWMUF@spammotel.com Subject: Re: bug#12833: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages Message-ID: References: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> <1354662544.WXHGMQZGWMUF@spammotel.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:41:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1354662544.WXHGMQZGWMUF@spammotel.com> (WXHGMQZGWMUF@spammotel.com's message of "Tue, 04 Dec 2012 23:10:29 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12833 Cc: 12833@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > What does that change in case of interactive question? > If I do 1 require before asking a question to the user, the message about > that require should hardly be visible (if visible at all -- because > actions happen so quickly). The question should use the space of the > information message, point. I see, yes, that would make sense. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 06 15:14:39 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2012 20:14:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57240 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TghqB-00007R-GK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54183) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tghq9-00007L-NV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:38 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tghpo-00065B-IU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:23 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:47828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tghpo-000651-F4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tghpj-0004t1-PX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tghpi-0005tJ-P1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:11 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:18759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tghpi-0005tB-L8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:10 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09soXOY/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBwFugmQRAOIQppxgViDBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="209242419" Received: from 108-161-115-152.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.115.152]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Dec 2012 15:14:09 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 812A458F5C; Thu, 6 Dec 2012 15:14:09 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: bug#12833: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages Message-ID: References: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> <1354662544.WXHGMQZGWMUF@spammotel.com> <80txs03mu2.fsf@somewhere.org> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 15:14:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <80txs03mu2.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Wed, 05 Dec 2012 09:49:41 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) >>> What does that change in case of interactive question? >>> If I do 1 require before asking a question to the user, the message about >>> that require should hardly be visible (if visible at all -- because >>> actions happen so quickly). The question should use the space of the >>> information message, point. >> I see, yes, that would make sense. > Does that mean it will be fixed that way? No, it just means that I'd accept such a change. But I don't have time to come up with a patch for it in the foreseeable future. > BTW, I tested a workaround in the meanwhile: let-binding > `minibuffer-message-timeout' to 0. I think you'd need to let-bind it around the code that brings up the minibuffer. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 10 12:02:27 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Dec 2012 17:02:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35782 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ti6kM-00009Z-Jt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:02:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60909) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ti6kJ-00009N-SM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:02:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ti6jZ-0003ih-VO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:01:47 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:50682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ti6jZ-0003ic-SF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:01:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43949) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ti6jU-00070T-1a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:01:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ti6jO-0003ed-5B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:01:31 -0500 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:46507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ti6jO-0003eX-0v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:01:26 -0500 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qBAH1OIN009580; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:01:24 -0500 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 92453B415D; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:01:23 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: bug#12833: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages Message-ID: References: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> <1354662544.WXHGMQZGWMUF@spammotel.com> <80txs03mu2.fsf@somewhere.org> <80vccaqkk1.fsf@somewhere.org> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:01:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: <80vccaqkk1.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:16:14 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4428=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4428> : streams <873207> : uri <1290260> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) > IIUC, in the examplified case, you mean to let-bind it in defun > `org-read-date'? That's one option, yes, tho doing it lower down the stack might help make it work in more places. E.g. you can try advising read-from-minibuffer. > All those packages (`org.el', `help-fns.el', etc.) are out of my > responsability area. I can't patch them all, can I? These are just workarounds. A real fix would need to be somewhere probably in the C code, maybe in read-from-minibuffer. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 11 08:52:11 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2012 13:52:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36633 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQFk-0007ee-QF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:52:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49557) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQFg-0007eU-GW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:52:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQEv-0005SH-Oa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:51:23 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:43060) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQEv-0005SD-MJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:51:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60909) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQEq-0000mt-0a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:51:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQEe-0005QX-2W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:51:11 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:27339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQEd-0005QM-V5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:50:59 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09soXOY/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghYBBScvIxALDiYSFBgNJIghugmQRAOIQppxgViDBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="209590782" Received: from 108-161-115-152.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.115.152]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 11 Dec 2012 08:50:59 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A8B5958C73; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:50:58 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: bug#12833: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages Message-ID: References: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> <1354662544.WXHGMQZGWMUF@spammotel.com> <80txs03mu2.fsf@somewhere.org> <80vccaqkk1.fsf@somewhere.org> <8038zcykvn.fsf@somewhere.org> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:50:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8038zcykvn.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:54:20 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > (defadvice read-from-minibuffer (around read-around) > "Read ... ." > (let* ((minibuffer-message-timeout 0)) > ad-do-it)) > (ad-activate 'read-from-minibuffer) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Maybe a more radical (defadvice read-from-minibuffer (before crush-message activate) (message nil)) will do Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 12 15:07:07 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2012 20:07:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39435 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TisaA-0004l2-6l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:07:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54831) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tisa8-0004kv-S3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:07:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TisZI-0008Ju-9Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:06:16 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:41872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TisZI-0008Jk-6S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:06:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37951) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TisZH-0005td-5N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:06:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TisZG-0008JW-CP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:06:11 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:40210) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TisZG-0008JI-8F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:06:10 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09soXOY/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghYBBVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kiCG6CZBEA4hCmnGBWIMH X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="209715263" Received: from 108-161-115-152.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.115.152]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 12 Dec 2012 15:06:08 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7F2D85941F; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:06:08 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: bug#12833: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages Message-ID: References: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> <1354662544.WXHGMQZGWMUF@spammotel.com> <80txs03mu2.fsf@somewhere.org> <80vccaqkk1.fsf@somewhere.org> <8038zcykvn.fsf@somewhere.org> <80wqwnr5p5.fsf@somewhere.org> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:06:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <80wqwnr5p5.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:16:22 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) >> (defadvice read-from-minibuffer (before crush-message activate) >> (message nil)) > Thanks for the tip! However, no, it did not change anything... My guess is that the advice is not run, then. Probably because the minibuffer is setup via completing-read which is coded in C and calls Fread_from_minibuffer directly, thus bypassing advice. You can try adding (defadvice completing-read (before crush-message activate) (message nil)) [ tho Fcompleting_read is also called a few times from the C code, so that advice will also be bypassed in various occasions. ] Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 20 14:14:49 2020 Received: (at 12833) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2020 18:14:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43972 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8p5N-0005CN-EF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:14:49 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:60746) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k8p5L-0005C6-5e for 12833@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:14:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=dbv+1yR/fiCB6uaas+cFjfK6d2kdf7qFDf4kIFjJadw=; b=LdI4cyYJ0zjZ0MuI+7I2xrfte/ K3pWrHQyt00oikFzr2U00ON/aDtK5YYwivMyIewyGtbshWn/uVwpqSMNGC+rkyuLzTFSNL2BDmAg7 ozcipSK7qrVdF2KrefPIqcInS7V1pH/dITiiQxVpIff1Eo33c65sRKQYUwP6djuZ5rnE=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k8p5C-0008JZ-3o; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:14:40 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Sebastien Vauban" Subject: Re: bug#12833: 24.2.50; Avoid questions asked in the echo area to be overridden by messages References: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> X-Now-Playing: A Tribe Called Quest's _People's Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm_: "After Hours" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:14:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <80liec1dea.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:34:53 +0100") Message-ID: <87k0xtnq0j.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > Here a recipe to reproduce the symptom explained in > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2012-04/msg00014.html [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12833 Cc: 12833@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > Here a recipe to reproduce the symptom explained in > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2012-04/msg00014.html [...] > 6. Schedule a date from that item with `C-c C-s': the prompt for the date gets > hidden (for something like 5 seconds) by the "require" message (though, > that happened before displaying the prompt). I think this was fixed some months ago -- messages are appended to prompts now (in Emacs 28, at least). So I'm closing this bug report. 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