From unknown Mon Aug 18 22:12:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12746: 24.2.50; doc fix for (info "(emacs)Disabled Transient Mark") Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12746 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12746@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13514229465746 (code B ref -1); Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:16:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2012 11:15:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36315 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQqI-0001Uc-1L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:15:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49566) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQqF-0001UV-N7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:15:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQny-0001Q6-Jm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:45699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQny-0001Q2-Gh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37035) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQnx-0005Px-Gy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQnt-0001PU-Bu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:21 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.219.41]:63731) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQnt-0001P7-3B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:17 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so4438379oag.0 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:13:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WtToDPMW1cA2sBLetvLtS/iDMUaLEB+HtZthDxYwqts=; b=z4RCfcK8TJcPQyTsZJbld4X9X3gBBfbX+W6GtMVbmocf49XMF7aD8Y2XNpHKLNHP1v Bgkz6gXJlfkFplU8CtnExnzqCpjD1i8cAQLCMHbWXTLSSQxncLtUJ1a/EanXK7b6SpKJ v8uKjchJ8zCxxu6kq8/WNK3hwvebiRcbzAHZLOytGsONSgjsZKGLj5lVgdN5O4ryHUh7 pU35m31A7PGCFSGnlwJXJUu8sMnSWEb/f0mssZgu5+ZlCAdGxT7uS6+MwAoPbTn9kn/T TleUiFA4FtuQdi3eDlQRFN6hJCybakqGYnTebpgczKbKcCYMz0NBDC6peVaU6sP0usvP hwww== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.0.166 with SMTP id 6mr23118334oef.6.1351422796272; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.131.168 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:13:16 +0100 Message-ID: From: Dani Moncayo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) Hi, Here is a couple of fixes for info node "(emacs)Disabled Transient Mark": 1. The paragraph [a] should be removed, since it describes a behavior that does not depend on transient mark mode being disabled. 2. The paragraph [b] is not accurate, since it doesn't mention that the point and mark are exchanged. [a] * Many commands that move point long distances, like `M-<' and `C-s', first set the mark where point was. [b] `C-u C-x C-x' Activate the mark and enable Transient Mark mode temporarily, until the mark is next deactivated. (This is the `C-x C-x' command, `exchange-point-and-mark', with a prefix argument.) Proposed patch: === modified file 'doc/emacs/mark.texi' --- doc/emacs/mark.texi 2012-05-27 01:25:06 +0000 +++ doc/emacs/mark.texi 2012-10-28 11:00:17 +0000 @@ -430,10 +430,6 @@ point and the mark (@pxref{Setting Mark}). @item -Many commands that move point long distances, like @kbd{M-<} and -@kbd{C-s}, first set the mark where point was. - -@item Some commands, which ordinarily act on the region when the mark is active, no longer do so. For example, normally @kbd{M-%} (@code{query-replace}) performs replacements within the region, if the @@ -455,9 +451,10 @@ @item C-u C-x C-x @kindex C-u C-x C-x -Activate the mark and enable Transient Mark mode temporarily, until -the mark is next deactivated. (This is the @kbd{C-x C-x} command, -@code{exchange-point-and-mark}, with a prefix argument.) +Exchange point and mark, activate the mark and enable Transient Mark +mode temporarily, until the mark is next deactivated. (This is the +@kbd{C-x C-x} command, @code{exchange-point-and-mark}, with a prefix +argument.) @end table These commands set or activate the mark, and enable Transient Mark In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2012-10-28 on DANI-PC Bzr revision: 110699 rgm@gnu.org-20121028023436-4hvcv5dsjz1g9hg7 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -I../../libs/libxpm-3.5.8/include -I../../libs/libxpm-3.5.8/src -I../../libs/libpng-1.4.10 -I../../libs/zlib-1.2.6 -I../../libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -I../../libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -I../../libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -I../../libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -I../../libs/gnutls-3.0.16/include -I../../libs/libiconv-1.14-2-mingw32-dev/include' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF8 locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t -- Dani Moncayo From unknown Mon Aug 18 22:12:05 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Dani Moncayo Subject: bug#12746: closed (Re: bug#12746: 24.2.50; doc fix for (info "(emacs)Disabled Transient Mark")) Message-ID: References: <87boewvimt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 12746 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 12746@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 06:40:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1353134402-6762-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1353134402-6762-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #12746: 24.2.50; doc fix for (info "(emacs)Disabled Transient Mark") which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 12746@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 12746: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D12746 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1353134402-6762-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 12746-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2012 06:39:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50039 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZc3w-0001kI-L3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:39:34 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.160.44]:50362) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZc3u-0001kB-CV for 12746-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:39:31 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id uo1so2318179pbc.3 for <12746-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:38:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=UeiT+MrzQ6PKuQpjS+TEpdWdESqA6Dnq3owbXK3mqFE=; b=XSSGjTk3uSTBljW3XkNPx8RHnunB69cETzagOIuVaNhN3EKFls2PNdFs4PeEd5Fg2V yrpCDlRrNPZKpmMStauTGGDEc/R4Yc+3wpglwlrqlNTWF//FCt3b0lYBpbs8aQCnKeP/ WmqsSGVdUuHLL+/zfS6pwauIBgTkQIFzRK/dwwcgWQbSuasfH8e6zzm1P2/EdGe+WD+r wv1GZj04/GdZSH1EtCF/0BdXGD+6fIvqDATA41zaJBtys4TK4rUC8QxgcYTiZ9MPs0G0 QLumqldcJ79t50emklFOsFpqjklP14Xnor5EO9/ULXB0Qi9uuf5JRulVg9mMd8Fdfxiz CSlA== Received: by 10.66.85.40 with SMTP id e8mr19123137paz.64.1353134319023; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ulysses (cm198.gamma83.maxonline.com.sg. [202.156.83.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n11sm2457397pby.67.2012.11.16.22.38.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:38:38 -0800 (PST) From: Chong Yidong To: Dani Moncayo Subject: Re: bug#12746: 24.2.50; doc fix for (info "(emacs)Disabled Transient Mark") References: Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:38:34 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Dani Moncayo's message of "Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:13:16 +0100") Message-ID: <87boewvimt.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12746-done Cc: 12746-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) Dani Moncayo writes: > Here is a couple of fixes for info node "(emacs)Disabled Transient Mark": Thanks, committed to emacs-24. ------------=_1353134402-6762-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2012 11:15:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36315 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQqI-0001Uc-1L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:15:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49566) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQqF-0001UV-N7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:15:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQny-0001Q6-Jm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:45699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQny-0001Q2-Gh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37035) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQnx-0005Px-Gy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQnt-0001PU-Bu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:21 -0400 Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.219.41]:63731) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSQnt-0001P7-3B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 07:13:17 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so4438379oag.0 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:13:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WtToDPMW1cA2sBLetvLtS/iDMUaLEB+HtZthDxYwqts=; b=z4RCfcK8TJcPQyTsZJbld4X9X3gBBfbX+W6GtMVbmocf49XMF7aD8Y2XNpHKLNHP1v Bgkz6gXJlfkFplU8CtnExnzqCpjD1i8cAQLCMHbWXTLSSQxncLtUJ1a/EanXK7b6SpKJ v8uKjchJ8zCxxu6kq8/WNK3hwvebiRcbzAHZLOytGsONSgjsZKGLj5lVgdN5O4ryHUh7 pU35m31A7PGCFSGnlwJXJUu8sMnSWEb/f0mssZgu5+ZlCAdGxT7uS6+MwAoPbTn9kn/T TleUiFA4FtuQdi3eDlQRFN6hJCybakqGYnTebpgczKbKcCYMz0NBDC6peVaU6sP0usvP hwww== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.0.166 with SMTP id 6mr23118334oef.6.1351422796272; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.131.168 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 04:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:13:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: 24.2.50; doc fix for (info "(emacs)Disabled Transient Mark") From: Dani Moncayo To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) Hi, Here is a couple of fixes for info node "(emacs)Disabled Transient Mark": 1. The paragraph [a] should be removed, since it describes a behavior that does not depend on transient mark mode being disabled. 2. The paragraph [b] is not accurate, since it doesn't mention that the point and mark are exchanged. [a] * Many commands that move point long distances, like `M-<' and `C-s', first set the mark where point was. [b] `C-u C-x C-x' Activate the mark and enable Transient Mark mode temporarily, until the mark is next deactivated. (This is the `C-x C-x' command, `exchange-point-and-mark', with a prefix argument.) Proposed patch: === modified file 'doc/emacs/mark.texi' --- doc/emacs/mark.texi 2012-05-27 01:25:06 +0000 +++ doc/emacs/mark.texi 2012-10-28 11:00:17 +0000 @@ -430,10 +430,6 @@ point and the mark (@pxref{Setting Mark}). @item -Many commands that move point long distances, like @kbd{M-<} and -@kbd{C-s}, first set the mark where point was. - -@item Some commands, which ordinarily act on the region when the mark is active, no longer do so. For example, normally @kbd{M-%} (@code{query-replace}) performs replacements within the region, if the @@ -455,9 +451,10 @@ @item C-u C-x C-x @kindex C-u C-x C-x -Activate the mark and enable Transient Mark mode temporarily, until -the mark is next deactivated. (This is the @kbd{C-x C-x} command, -@code{exchange-point-and-mark}, with a prefix argument.) +Exchange point and mark, activate the mark and enable Transient Mark +mode temporarily, until the mark is next deactivated. (This is the +@kbd{C-x C-x} command, @code{exchange-point-and-mark}, with a prefix +argument.) @end table These commands set or activate the mark, and enable Transient Mark In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2012-10-28 on DANI-PC Bzr revision: 110699 rgm@gnu.org-20121028023436-4hvcv5dsjz1g9hg7 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -I../../libs/libxpm-3.5.8/include -I../../libs/libxpm-3.5.8/src -I../../libs/libpng-1.4.10 -I../../libs/zlib-1.2.6 -I../../libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -I../../libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -I../../libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -I../../libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -I../../libs/gnutls-3.0.16/include -I../../libs/libiconv-1.14-2-mingw32-dev/include' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF8 locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t -- Dani Moncayo ------------=_1353134402-6762-1--