From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 20 19:14:52 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Oct 2012 23:14:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53560 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPiFn-00073V-Uq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:14:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60459) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPiFl-00073I-K4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:14:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPiE6-0007mw-4H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:13:06 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:33550) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPiE6-0007ms-0u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:13:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43443) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPiE5-0004a7-3r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:13:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPiE4-0007me-4M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:13:05 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:28445) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPiE3-0007mX-UL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 19:13:04 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q9KND1Bc021101 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 23:13:02 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q9KND18c009141 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 23:13:01 GMT Received: from abhmt115.oracle.com (abhmt115.oracle.com [141.146.116.67]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9KND0jp002961 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:13:00 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:13:00 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.2.50; Describe file-name cache at (emacs) `File Conveniences' Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:12:29 -0700 Message-ID: <0DFA8D3590D648858F4762239761E904@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac2vGGBcaLl+OD++Qo2PHo8dYJkmdw== X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) This is a node about "convenient facilities for finding" files. It should mention the file-name cache and cross-reference node `File Name Cache'. That feature too provides a way to quickly find files that might be far from the current directory. In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-10-15 on DANI-PC Bzr revision: 110553 monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20121015164957-6zms5w2js1xkldtg Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -I../../libs/libxpm-3.5.8/include -I../../libs/libxpm-3.5.8/src -I../../libs/libpng-1.4.10 -I../../libs/zlib-1.2.6 -I../../libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -I../../libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -I../../libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -I../../libs/libxml2-2.7.8-w32-bin/include/libxml2 -I../../libs/gnutls-3.0.16/include -I../../libs/libiconv-1.14-2-mingw32-dev/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 17 01:31:07 2012 Received: (at 12695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2012 06:31:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50018 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZbvn-0001Xv-57 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:31:07 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.220.44]:57269) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZbvj-0001Xl-6D for 12695@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:31:04 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id hz11so427921pad.3 for <12695@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:30:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=l+kNqNnULwGUlbW0dI5XKFunSnWcdifiqBUsj5YsWJ0=; b=ggFgip2gbuqnJNttfM0JW9SvWxeXos874BXFG8iT9xeJg9Md4vRsVrsAvHuToh2mqV QxAwjdbz/fSnPPkIEncdRSJzplDrPsZeklec81ZHcvbVhCEe94qeFxFjozMekbjLaJ4z 7tp2XbpLsbw47OWzxxovU3Eh65Qu8GEDgc6g5praNAIcKZnZOdG7ZpqeghBy/jNwYfLU dAC1hqwzw25h5R9c3iaT60kW+7NF93pPBp2XUccJ3VZAZIlU/xT0IJtm4uFXd8KLtgKd Co5i+KaYkIZcVhkcNxTKIUEFi5Ihz10Xvhiu+zIkCGbnn8caNTdOUy8xMwHiwGrfEHlT b1dw== Received: by 10.69.0.134 with SMTP id ay6mr16151605pbd.50.1353133811762; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ulysses (cm198.gamma83.maxonline.com.sg. [202.156.83.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vk5sm2453130pbc.34.2012.11.16.22.30.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:30:10 -0800 (PST) From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#12695: 24.2.50; Describe file-name cache at (emacs) `File Conveniences' References: <0DFA8D3590D648858F4762239761E904@us.oracle.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:30:06 +0800 In-Reply-To: <0DFA8D3590D648858F4762239761E904@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:12:29 -0700") Message-ID: <878va0rbbl.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12695 Cc: 12695@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > This is a node about "convenient facilities for finding" files. It > should mention the file-name cache and cross-reference node `File Name > Cache'. That feature too provides a way to quickly find files that > might be far from the current directory. File Name Cache is the immediately preceding node, so this is redundant. 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[202.156.83.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uk9sm2447326pbc.63.2012.11.16.22.30.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:30:28 -0800 (PST) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 12695 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:30:24 +0800 Message-ID: <87ip94d9mn.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) tags 12695 + wontfix close 12695 thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 17 01:46:56 2012 Received: (at 12695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2012 06:46:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50046 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZcB5-0002mf-N6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:46:56 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30121) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TZcB2-0002mS-Dl for 12695@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:46:53 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qAH6jxEL029244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 17 Nov 2012 06:46:00 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qAH6jwE6003335 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 17 Nov 2012 06:45:59 GMT Received: from abhmt114.oracle.com (abhmt114.oracle.com [141.146.116.66]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qAH6jwut012502; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 00:45:58 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.229.77) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:45:58 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Chong Yidong'" References: <0DFA8D3590D648858F4762239761E904@us.oracle.com> <878va0rbbl.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#12695: 24.2.50; Describe file-name cache at (emacs) `File Conveniences' Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 22:45:52 -0800 Message-ID: <786D9A0CE0614EB8B4FF1781E571C211@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <878va0rbbl.fsf@gnu.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac3EjQBqvebqkbWlTMGfw2QmagJkuQAAcFpQ X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12695 Cc: 12695@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) > > This is a node about "convenient facilities for finding" files. It > > should mention the file-name cache and cross-reference node > > `File Name Cache'. That feature too provides a way to quickly > > find files that might be far from the current directory. > > File Name Cache is the immediately preceding node, so this is > redundant. Not at all redundant. There is nothing in that node that refers you to the other or even mentions file-name caching. People do not necessarily read the manual from start to finish in a linear fashion. They can land in a given node in any number of ways, including via the index or a cross reference. It makes no sense to say that because some information is in a sibling node there is no reason to cross reference it. Whether to cross reference it should depend only on whether its content is relevant/related. Which it is, in this case. 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