From unknown Tue Aug 19 05:08:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12682: 24.2.50; make server-execute less noisy Resent-From: Christopher Schmidt Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12682 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12682@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135065227018313 (code B ref -1); Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:12:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2012 13:11:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51278 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPCM0-0004lI-Ai for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:11:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54812) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPCLy-0004kn-9U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:11:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPCKM-0007dJ-1e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:09:31 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:58449) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPCKL-0007dF-V7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:09:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43137) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPCKL-0000Hq-1W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:09:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPCKH-0007cq-2Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:09:24 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:36098 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPCKG-0007cN-QZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:09:20 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 130C31FF42; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:09:19 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1350652159; bh=zfAxAPMLVjFI5mykdvKa0LCXH/ArZi0Xl5+Gh1uLAbA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Date; b=GVx7BSr54+2e7BdNFBbF0NLHd3NXOCmev9/tfqJvP0i6Eme14VQuggQ62FH59220Y cjke9bJXPFKkmTD3LZyjrbwNVr5K36jzewWeG8cIm4cCs7OXh+9ATnjpl2Oe0jLO6i CMmY+7XcNbOlau16EO1VmCQp2SkDCcII6wKZBLJE= From: Christopher Schmidt Message-ID: <871ugufw1v@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:09:19 +0100 (BST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) severity: wishlist In server-execute, there is this form: (message "%s" (substitute-command-keys "When done with this frame, type \\[delete-frame]")) It would be great if one could disable this messages. Christopher From unknown Tue Aug 19 05:08:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12682: 24.2.50; make server-execute less noisy Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12682 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12682@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13506652798478 (code B ref -1); Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:48:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2012 16:47:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51966 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPFjr-0002Ch-5k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:47:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44731) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPFjp-0002CW-BA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:47:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPFiE-0008SH-0F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:46:21 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:60335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPFiD-0008SD-TD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:46:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38885) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPFi7-0000xa-SJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:46:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPFi1-0008PI-Nr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:46:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:58447) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPFi1-0008P4-K3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:46:05 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPFhz-0005Nz-FX; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:46:03 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <871ugufw1v@ch.ristopher.com> X-Spook: advisors Blowpipe undercover eternity server diwn X-Ran: >4]]X%m|[~3"&}lYnu^lPWu\w!~_Ye]FxW"S\:&1brOf2Ok=2=:e|Iv!j=FC X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:46:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871ugufw1v@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:09:19 +0100 (BST)") Message-ID: <51bofycsvo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) Christopher Schmidt wrote: > In server-execute, there is this form: > > (message "%s" (substitute-command-keys > "When done with this frame, type \\[delete-frame]")) > > It would be great if one could disable this messages. Maybe it could respect emacsclient's --quiet option? From unknown Tue Aug 19 05:08:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12682: 24.2.50; make server-execute less noisy Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12682 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 12682@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12682-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12682.135068945614758 (code B ref 12682); Fri, 19 Oct 2012 23:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 12682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2012 23:30:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52340 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPM1n-0003py-IN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:30:56 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:62551) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPM1l-0003pl-7N for 12682@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:30:54 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id dt12so692314wgb.15 for <12682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:29:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=hw5b/XpF7xoBKcMhHAUgV4YXdrYdWR1OKk9hY5EKRWM=; b=ssrJGklEYQvYW75AusjO1hw0g3+RBMvq1kuBXFyBqoOFflht04TmlyuDX+g8kyge2V jQ3MbYMyCqTOEyVB2Z/AceLY9AytkxJQOwqrHQIlixql8w2MS08h/H1PcJ6c0Rd1RfTk uj6T3MjL4bxWOHZyVppfuMLEcSjsnYiuH2JZoeJmjQYOz1w7T9clFzdSzeSbw+UcKYRA cAhhR4k6i0LPkslFgIyCz7Y6YZ2LzvSuD2SKoDaqLp0DnefjUgdNXsfUpXJmwHJdf5/5 +5Ey0jsnIhU3yCD69sCV6mi1EPvLgqTHnoRAmmCI4c1xb2NqOntOa9zfplQhrje6Hldc A54g== Received: by 10.180.91.71 with SMTP id cc7mr6226606wib.2.1350689355335; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:29:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.62.204 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:28:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51bofycsvo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <871ugufw1v@ch.ristopher.com> <51bofycsvo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 01:28:35 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Maybe it could respect emacsclient's --quiet option? I don't think it's a good match. And Christopher likely wants to silence the message in all situations. The fact is that many Emacs functions show messages and we don't add options to disable them. In this case it is trivial to add an advice in his own's .emacs: (defadvice server-execute (around silence-server-execute activate compile) (with-temp-message "" ad-do-it)) and the messages still get logged on *Messages* in case there's something else going on (or the advice can be more sofisticate and check *Messages* to be sure than nothing untold is happening). This is a wontfix IMO. Juanma From unknown Tue Aug 19 05:08:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12682: 24.2.50; make server-execute less noisy Resent-From: Christopher Schmidt Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12682 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12682@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135084944914675 (code B ref -1); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:58:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2012 19:57:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1eL-0003oe-Bn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:57:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59332) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1eI-0003oQ-BA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:57:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1cX-0007BC-F1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:55:38 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:49913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1cX-0007Az-BP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:55:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45116) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1cW-000056-Aq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:55:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1cV-00077G-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:55:36 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:36646 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1cU-00075i-To for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:55:35 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 42D171FF45; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:55:33 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1350849333; bh=PzGTPa75WyEgMjK4Yatgo7FyroiAAceSmW7nwDd5BT4=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=JbiWzkp9RqgROkP809u6maBZhuZHzsf3URifUnioOa0OIIk0LZpICNBEV2H15AGkV d4hI3OFxMmkaCVLQicm3doM+jKwcBc7yA2AOkBbfpl272urMaexgntsjxwzmgcYdu1 naafQ2U9GnZK6B2HO1wPi2+nqJkRJ3qFD9AAFGE4= From: Christopher Schmidt In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Sat, 20 Oct 2012 01:28:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87objv7g7g@ch.ristopher.com> References: <871ugufw1v@ch.ristopher.com> <51bofycsvo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:55:33 +0100 (BST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > >> Maybe it could respect emacsclient's --quiet option? > > I don't think it's a good match. And Christopher likely wants to > silence the message in all situations. > > The fact is that many Emacs functions show messages and we don't add > options to disable them. In this case it is trivial to add an advice > in his own's .emacs: > > (defadvice server-execute (around silence-server-execute activate compile) > (with-temp-message "" > ad-do-it)) > > and the messages still get logged on *Messages* in case there's > something else going on (or the advice can be more sofisticate and > check *Messages* to be sure than nothing untold is happening). There are other, useful messages in server-execute. A more sophisticated advice is not trivial any more. server-execute is an internal, undocumented function. The message may be subject to change, the form might be refactored to another function in future versions. I would like to have a permanent solution. There are many superfluous messages floating around, making my *Messages*-buffer a pain to look at and my minibuffer a constant source of distraction. I will not create feature requests for all these messages. Right now, to me, it is just about this one and the one I reported in bug 12370 because IMO these two provide absolutely no value whatsoever. I am fine with "Mark set", "Starting new Ispell process", "Quit", etc. - but Emacs telling me the keys of its most fundamental commands - all the time, all over again!? I do not like that. Having that said... > This is a wontfix IMO. ...I am fine with wontfix. I guess a real solution to the underlying problem would be to attach a log-level or a category-symbol to each message, with the user being able to disable certain categories. I do realise this is quiet a demand and there are lots of more important things to implement. Christopher From unknown Tue Aug 19 05:08:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12682: 24.2.50; make server-execute less noisy Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12682 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12682@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12682-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12682.13508625761041 (code B ref 12682); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 12682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2012 23:36:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54732 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ543-0000Gj-U7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:36:16 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:64737) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ540-0000GV-Jc for 12682@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:36:13 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id dt12so1599792wgb.15 for <12682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:34:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=nkhcC4hYFd5GGO0uAyuVKB0pyXyytHT/a7RWxvvSayQ=; b=l1Lj4xDBU8sfyTitFbgb0LdusEfN8t5s73he0BvPynntWLYB/J4Ee06Mk2BqS8xBrS D9aUCU/alBh8IPlYeq/UKTwBb23ZsORFTtX7zUB+VLXU6D9sTni9KzKs2pIrCzuh5pML 0W+/p4iNcQMy4wZpYRJPM00lZWbdKmBeFuP0EjcVDJTz4nXn5yrul9WNWnZ7RoPXl/w7 NQh1Gbw6iGv+UZ9ZtDNLbN01fSL8gSmbAEYt93r0zwJaQxDnZ8eJth8AwhiYArGgrm/z 9yIKeemocsjDLVTTyrk0ZJFsUycL79eVUX3eJsw0H7XOVxJp8Ms8y/XveJZqzFRheXvM lcNA== Received: by 10.180.82.72 with SMTP id g8mr32316893wiy.20.1350862463519; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:34:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.62.204 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:33:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87objv7g7g@ch.ristopher.com> References: <871ugufw1v@ch.ristopher.com> <51bofycsvo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87objv7g7g@ch.ristopher.com> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 01:33:43 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote: > There are other, useful messages in server-execute. A more > sophisticated advice is not trivial any more. Not very hard, anyway. > server-execute is an > internal, undocumented function. The message may be subject to change, > the form might be refactored to another function in future versions. I > would like to have a permanent solution. Fair enough. > There are many superfluous messages floating around, making my > *Messages*-buffer a pain to look at and my minibuffer a constant source > of distraction. I will not create feature requests for all these > messages. Right now, to me, it is just about this one and the one I > reported in bug 12370 because IMO these two provide absolutely no value > whatsoever. I suppose "superfluous" is in the eye of the beholder. I find the C-x # message a useful reminder (because I really rarely use emacsclient without --no-wait), and it seems like a newbie-oriented message anyway. > ...I am fine with wontfix. I haven't tagged it as wontfix, just stating my opinion. Someone is bound to differ, I suppose. > I guess a real solution to the underlying problem would be to attach a > log-level or a category-symbol to each message, with the user being able > to disable certain categories. I do realise this is quiet a demand and > there are lots of more important things to implement. I think both messages and warnings should have a customizable way to filter them out (with several criteria, from the very text of the message/warning to categories, etc). For warnings that already exists through the severity level, though it is pretty coarse. Juanma From unknown Tue Aug 19 05:08:27 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12682: 24.2.50; make server-execute less noisy Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 11:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12682 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juanma Barranquero Cc: 12682@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris Received: via spool by 12682-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12682.163092608125921 (code B ref 12682); Mon, 06 Sep 2021 11:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 12682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2021 11:01:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52123 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNCNM-0006jo-Rx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 07:01:21 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNCNK-0006dN-Tg for 12682@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 07:01:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=3Os++kVNQ+PZ2vShpsSzep6KG/m5CvLoW2JZ6Yrxd0w=; b=NW9xlU/fwJy0/9cG9kwNTUFaM5 JGirZsZmmebHLp/Ow7f7bcTmBtDlwv9PQT+mTWFsBrYAELN/Stnb2QJrBDWvw5UdXNtYImn5b9abH iDMjTt4gySFgwTZKVHTe/re9fhj42SDtJLzC75XrX+CRA/wAWH6Y9llrhPSRrzTW62Ps=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNCN9-0000bY-Jj; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 13:01:12 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <871ugufw1v@ch.ristopher.com> <51bofycsvo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 13:01:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Sat, 20 Oct 2012 01:28:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87o896eznw.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Juanma Barranquero writes: > The fact is that many Emacs functions show messages and we don't add > options to disable them. In this case it is trivial to add an advice > in his own's .emacs: > > (defadvice server-execute (arou [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Juanma Barranquero writes: > The fact is that many Emacs functions show messages and we don't add > options to disable them. In this case it is trivial to add an advice > in his own's .emacs: > > (defadvice server-execute (around silence-server-execute activate compile) > (with-temp-message "" > ad-do-it)) We now have `set-message-function', which can be used by the user to filter out messages that the user doesn't like. > and the messages still get logged on *Messages* in case there's > something else going on (or the advice can be more sofisticate and > check *Messages* to be sure than nothing untold is happening). > > This is a wontfix IMO. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: close 12682 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 12682 quit