From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:07:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12680: 24.2.50; about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message) Resent-From: Christopher Schmidt Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12680 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12680@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135065013015171 (code B ref -1); Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:36:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2012 12:35:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51243 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPBnW-0003wb-4M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:35:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51790) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPBnU-0003wP-DB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:35:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPBlx-0004vS-5i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:33:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:37946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPBlx-0004vN-2A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:33:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPBls-0001jG-Si for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:33:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPBlj-0004ss-BY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:33:48 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:36081 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPBlj-0004sk-2E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:33:39 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id E28831FF42; Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:33:36 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1350650016; bh=MtwI4KjqoJAHwr6MCPDg3skB2N45Lxsfinb7cydjb14=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Date; b=KQbQiX4se2mKaeOUM9o13QAGXeYFTKXwY0L4Ih5y3mj76O1SZBFdz5fqhLhGWp41I ol8gNgq7Md0ZK6TZXOVOks5RMucedA60oMKIUpa/mT5rzdCzXrNH2TErlcx4FW1n8a FnpiJZ2RLsqOnGQRlHnmkC6EXCZOVCxf9lwA91I4= From: Christopher Schmidt Message-ID: <87pq4ewsip@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:33:36 +0100 (BST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) If (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) is non-nil, about-emacs (C-h C-a), in particular fancy-about-screen, messages (startup-echo-area-message). This is confusing, especially when Emacs is started as a daemon. Christopher From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:07:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12680: 24.2.50; about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message) Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12680 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12680@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13507845018608 (code B ref -1); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:55:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2012 01:55:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53655 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPkkm-0002En-Lj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:55:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38001) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TPkkk-0002Ea-Pa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:54:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPkj4-0004D0-7Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:15 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:40960) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPkj4-0004Cw-4O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48218) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPkj3-0003xk-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPkj2-0004Cj-G2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:13 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:58332) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPkj2-0004Cf-Cf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:12 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TPkj1-0002C6-Pw; Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:11 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <87pq4ewsip@ch.ristopher.com> X-Spook: Rand Corporation bluebird Noriega Treasury Semtex JPL X-Ran: G!I.';m3i28ePp1%t36hs!8o~1Z_dAXMJl#{ZW1tJG|0XWu^e""^zO^=J.j*nTf'^5'>*/ X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pq4ewsip@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:33:36 +0100 (BST)") Message-ID: <5dsj98pp4o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) Christopher Schmidt wrote: > If (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) is non-nil, about-emacs (C-h C-a), in > particular fancy-about-screen, messages (startup-echo-area-message). > This is confusing, especially when Emacs is started as a daemon. Sorry, I don't understand. Why is it confusing when Emacs was not started as a daemon? Why is it confusing if Emacs _was_ started in that way? From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:07:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12680: 24.2.50; about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message) Resent-From: Christopher Schmidt Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12680 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12680@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135084797312568 (code B ref -1); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:33:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2012 19:32:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54634 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1GW-0003Ge-Hc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:32:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48267) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1GT-0003GQ-Hn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:32:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1Ej-0001dw-0b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:31:01 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:45449) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1Ei-0001dq-Tp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:31:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1Ei-0004gq-1R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:31:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1Eg-0001dc-LE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:30:59 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:36640 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1Eg-0001dY-Cv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:30:58 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id BB7D31FF45; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:30:55 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1350847855; bh=Zp30UxoNQ9URFvIYvKG+rFsKXYNb/B1lvzbwfxJWo+w=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=k9N+q8GoBSM9WLh+oph/SkY7ZkmGTP0F2b+UN6lQzta8yytrUglO7xlwLi8MGbw4s AQ8TInz0kxggm1MLNKYOjbvSJL0h44zVaSe3VogJy98cjjvM/CXJu7yYV4XJ9Xp0SN u2inon+zXH17tnlgEsj8lrOcatk4M5IlD8Eq+pI8= From: Christopher Schmidt In-Reply-To: <5dsj98pp4o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:11 -0400") Message-ID: <87d30bsjv6@ch.ristopher.com> References: <87pq4ewsip@ch.ristopher.com> <5dsj98pp4o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:30:55 +0100 (BST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Glenn Morris writes: > Christopher Schmidt wrote: > >> If (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) is non-nil, about-emacs (C-h C-a), in >> particular fancy-about-screen, messages (startup-echo-area-message). >> This is confusing, especially when Emacs is started as a daemon. > > Sorry, I don't understand. > Why is it confusing when Emacs was not started as a daemon? Pressing C-h C-a will make Emacs message "For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.". This message is superfluous because that very information is already displayed and the user most likely just did press C-h C-a. > Why is it confusing if Emacs _was_ started in that way? In this case Emacs messages "Starting Emacs daemon." This message has nothing to do with about-emacs. Christopher From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:07:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12680: 24.2.50; about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message) Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12680 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12680@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.135150599115818 (code B ref -1); Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:20:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2012 10:19:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37453 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TSmRi-000475-Nk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:19:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44355) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TSmRh-00046y-5e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:19:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSmPH-0004pG-EP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:17:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:51529) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSmPH-0004pB-B7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:17:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35592) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSmPD-0006ir-Hc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:17:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSmP9-0004oC-Id for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:17:15 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.220.41]:42155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TSmP9-0004o8-AE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 06:17:11 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fa10so3410439pad.0 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:17:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=MALBhteb0KMWE3BR35EsvQg11S/VFRf/I9V2y5NKItU=; b=n4LTI7nslAaNAqpbmyK8HxOY4O7m5fWPr2Px4IcT7EYoK5fSgDwJ2fbYclQV9OAAli VAi3l24P0HGVDtExqUpuHJDCJXbNoouURPRoPmEKlsdLR5H/fe0fgDcrM149Rs+DTXaQ 6AfOqGZIfW/5QWdtQgVu5KdKrt16VX0BlUC1QwuMFGsKIoEdt8JfHB1Hcoq54uRtik+c 6ZKQ8BKu2GW4X2utCiEWSxdMgk0rDCmQoe/PiEFJc4i5mVJcnTBoFEp27jFTe2jzycfM g4/h9SFM/qeq92WFBE1nKExPWEdWncy+2/ZsSQm0PZcI4ZiQuiWyUJcylW8zl2HLehsv ZVNA== Received: by 10.68.203.227 with SMTP id kt3mr68535911pbc.13.1351505830594; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulysses ([155.69.16.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k9sm5729191paz.22.2012.10.29.03.17.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Chong Yidong References: <87pq4ewsip@ch.ristopher.com> <5dsj98pp4o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d30bsjv6@ch.ristopher.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:17:04 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87d30bsjv6@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:30:55 +0100 (BST)") Message-ID: <87txtdoa5b.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Christopher Schmidt writes: > Pressing C-h C-a will make Emacs message "For information about GNU > Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.". This message is superfluous > because that very information is already displayed and the user most > likely just did press C-h C-a. > >> Why is it confusing if Emacs _was_ started in that way? > > In this case Emacs messages "Starting Emacs daemon." This message has > nothing to do with about-emacs. You're right, the message does nothing. I removed it. 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