From dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu Mon Oct 27 23:36:28 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 28 Oct 2008 06:36:29 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9S6aPSD004428 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:36:27 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KuiBl-0007G3-It for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:36:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KuiBl-0007Fq-4r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:36:25 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47530 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KuiBk-0007Fn-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:36:25 -0400 Received: from barrelv2.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.114]:45899) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KuiBk-0002b9-Me for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 02:36:24 -0400 Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9S6aIJi004999 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dann@localhost) by mothra.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id m9S6aIYk025326; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200810280636.m9S6aIYk025326@mothra.ics.uci.edu> From: Dan Nicolaescu To: bug-gnu-emacs Subject: "obsolete" are too early in load-path Lines: 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: m9S6aIJi004999 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) "obsolete" should be just about at the end of the list, it's not exactly where popular files reside... From cyd@stupidchicken.com Tue Oct 28 13:13:19 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 1264) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 28 Oct 2008 20:13:19 +0000 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9SKDENH012543 for <1264@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:13:15 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B75E357E0B2; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:13:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Dan Nicolaescu Cc: 1264@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: "obsolete" are too early in load-path Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:13:19 -0400 Message-ID: <87abcoiilc.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > "obsolete" should be just about at the end of the list, it's not > exactly where popular files reside... startup.el sets the load patch in reverse alphabetical order. Does it matter in practice? From dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu Thu Oct 30 09:08:51 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 1264) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 Oct 2008 16:08:51 +0000 Received: from sallyv2.ics.uci.edu (sallyv2.ics.uci.edu [128.195.1.120]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9UG8mwD030957 for <1264@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:08:49 -0700 Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9UG7MQO028389; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dann@localhost) by mothra.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id m9UG7Lqp019490; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200810301607.m9UG7Lqp019490@mothra.ics.uci.edu> From: Dan Nicolaescu To: Chong Yidong Cc: 1264@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: "obsolete" are too early in load-path References: <87abcoiilc.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes In-Reply-To: <87abcoiilc.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (Chong Yidong's message of "Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:13:19 -0400") Lines: 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: m9UG7MQO028389 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu Chong Yidong writes: > > "obsolete" should be just about at the end of the list, it's not > > exactly where popular files reside... > > startup.el sets the load patch in reverse alphabetical order. Does it > matter in practice? For each file loaded there might be 6 extra stat system calls. From cyd@stupidchicken.com Thu Oct 30 12:00:16 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 1264-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 Oct 2008 19:00:17 +0000 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9UJ0DXO009098 for <1264-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:00:14 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4700457E04B; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:00:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Dan Nicolaescu Cc: 1264-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: "obsolete" are too early in load-path References: <87abcoiilc.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <200810301607.m9UG7Lqp019490@mothra.ics.uci.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:00:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200810301607.m9UG7Lqp019490@mothra.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87bpx19ad8.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dan Nicolaescu writes: > Chong Yidong writes: > > > > "obsolete" should be just about at the end of the list, it's not > > > exactly where popular files reside... > > > > startup.el sets the load patch in reverse alphabetical order. Does it > > matter in practice? > > For each file loaded there might be 6 extra stat system calls. OK, I changed update-subdirs to put the obsolete/ directory last. From unknown Sun Sep 21 16:20:18 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # A New Hope # A log time ago, in a galaxy far, far away # something happened. # # Magically this resulted in the following # action being taken, but this fake control # message doesn't tell you why it happened # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator