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Win32 (Ver:24.2); Crashes when files from shared folders are accessed

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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol <at> dancol.org>
Cc: 12621 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, andrewjmoreton <at> gmail.com, Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Subject: bug#12621: Emacs 24.1 crashing on Windows 7
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:30:10 +0400

On 17.12.2012 6:19, Daniel Colascione wrote:
> On 12/16/2012 6:03 PM, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
>> Hello Mr. Stallman,
>>
>> Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:
>>> You've made a false accusation when you call my criticisms of Windows
>>> "FUD".  The references for these criticisms are in
>>> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/digital-inclusion-in-freedom.html.
>>>
>>> You can't have had any evidence for your false accusation.  You must
>>> have leaped to the conclusion.  This bespeaks hostility towards me.
>>
>> I think the burden of proof is on you here. You said that Windows
>> contains spyware, DRM and backdoors, and only presented an article that
>> discusses the DRM.
>
> To be fair, the "backdoor" to which RMS refers involves an incident in which
> Windows Update updated itself even when users had specifically turned off
> updates from the OS configuration facility for such things. I don't mean to
> speak for RMS, but I believe he's suggesting that Windows still has these latent
> capabilities. Nobody can prove otherwise.
>
> The "spyware" claim refers to Windows Update sending a list of installed
> programs along with its "do you have an update for me?" chat with the update server.

I see, thanks for the explanation.

> That said, Chrome also transmits usage statistics and (in its default
> configuration) updates itself silently. rms, I don't see how you can claim
> Windows contains "backdoors" and "spyware" without similarly accusing Chrome.
> Many other programs do the same thing.
>
> I prefer to live in a world where the vast majority of programs I use are not
> morally reprehensible.
>
> [1] http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=96817
> [2]
> http://www.esecurityplanet.com/browser-security/google-silently-updates-chrome-as-mozilla-preps-.html
>

--Dmitry

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