From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:41:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd Resent-From: Michael Welsh Duggan Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12570 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12570@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13492750436763 (code B ref -1); Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:38:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 14:37:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39609 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJQ4g-0001l1-BP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:37:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49483) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJQ4e-0001ku-9m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:37:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJQ41-0008Oj-59 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:36:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:34839) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJQ41-0008Of-2L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:36:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37612) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJQ3w-0003nj-Di for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:36:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJQ3s-0008MX-4r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:36:36 -0400 Received: from upton.red.cert.org ([192.88.209.60]:40836) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJQ3r-0008ME-WB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:36:32 -0400 Received: from bucknell.indigo.cert.org (bucknell.indigo.cert.org [10.60.10.121]) by upton.red.cert.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q93EaUIZ003930 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:36:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cert.org; s=jthatj15xw2j; t=1349274990; bh=+VquCaigIz4XBTNSskrUavjBz/ra/v1oYbX+zo4i2pk=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:In-Reply-To; b=ASjgADW9Rp0G3C72TPIPIeqt0RrMx8w0TjAjGWSQJfcEWcH1OwncB/YtPFTUyIPOi fJtH9bRzYzZ4UqmuSHynaY+U8cNL7jROObomz7MxkcCztW/culgjT/rnUTO2zexVfu IxU4+Xzbo6l6+fTpX+YLvDSyAT3XFj6qmHmib+PM= Received: from waterbuck.yellow.cert.org (waterbuck.yellow.cert.org [10.20.128.84]) by bucknell.indigo.cert.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/2.81) with ESMTP id q93EaUVl014910 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:36:30 -0400 Received: (from mwd@localhost) by waterbuck.yellow.cert.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit/1.6) id q93EaUbS020440; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:36:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: waterbuck.yellow.cert.org: mwd set sender to mwd@cert.org using -f From: Michael Welsh Duggan Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:36:30 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) When read-passwd was changed in revision 107874 (monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20120411181320-zd3wwgbom1229q74) to use read-string, it no longer allows C-u to reset the currently entered string. In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.4) of 2012-09-25 on waterbuck.yellow.cert.org Bzr revision: 110196 eliz@gnu.org-20120925124413-us1fkny5urer83c3 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70101000 System Description: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.8 (Tikanga) -- Michael Welsh Duggan (mwd@cert.org) From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:41:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12570 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Welsh Duggan Cc: 12570@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12570-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12570.13492851298206 (code B ref 12570); Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 12570) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 17:25:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51641 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJShN-00028I-JF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:25:29 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:19478) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJShL-000287-Sz for 12570@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:25:28 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09FxLQG/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIHAW6CZBEA6MzgViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="200573370" Received: from 69-196-180-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.180.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Oct 2012 13:25:21 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5F197594E8; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:25:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:25:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:36:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > When read-passwd was changed in revision 107874 > (monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20120411181320-zd3wwgbom1229q74) to use > read-string, it no longer allows C-u to reset the currently entered > string. You can use C-a C-k, instead, like in any other minibuffer. Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:41:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd Resent-From: Michael Welsh Duggan Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12570 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: "12570@debbugs.gnu.org" <12570@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 12570-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12570.134928632810000 (code B ref 12570); Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 12570) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 17:45:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51678 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJT0g-0002bE-UX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:45:27 -0400 Received: from upton.red.cert.org ([192.88.209.60]:53634) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJT0f-0002b3-Qc for 12570@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:45:26 -0400 Received: from bucknell.indigo.cert.org (bucknell.indigo.cert.org [10.60.10.121]) by upton.red.cert.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q93HjJMq009600; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:45:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cert.org; s=jthatj15xw2j; t=1349286319; bh=jSeRR63XhLizy4878L+g8vXZyqzk89VMdxtNZwh3OIY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To; b=jUevrph8eI+SqBobIvfEzwdoCXDK41nJh2uajm7IK6BF0Sf3JMQZBfJvGSYYPnV89 K3OwaQa2155+Y+YQLUpIlSjWy9YsiHVQ9BashBjMAGEY+VhEh4RhPISm4ErA6ixxS2 xYJFO/RocXEgoJO0RC6gz0tpGyed9qtHy3zJXQ+M= Received: from waterbuck.yellow.cert.org (waterbuck.yellow.cert.org [10.20.128.84]) by bucknell.indigo.cert.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/2.81) with ESMTP id q93HjJRF024759; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:45:19 -0400 Received: (from mwd@localhost) by waterbuck.yellow.cert.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit/1.6) id q93HjJZE023395; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:45:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: waterbuck.yellow.cert.org: mwd set sender to mwd@cert.org using -f From: Michael Welsh Duggan References: Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:45:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:25:21 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: >> When read-passwd was changed in revision 107874 >> (monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20120411181320-zd3wwgbom1229q74) to use >> read-string, it no longer allows C-u to reset the currently entered >> string. > > You can use C-a C-k, instead, like in any other minibuffer. If you truly think that this is TRT, so be it. I will adjust (eventually). But it does sit uneasily in my mind. I can type C-u to cancel typing in passwords for login shells, ssh-add, and just about any other program that accepts a password. It feels odd to switch my password typing habits just in Emacs. When I fumble-finger a password, I barely pause in typing before typing C-u and continuing to type. The change is consistent with the rest of Emacs, but I do not know that I can declare it a wise consistency in this case. -- Michael Welsh Duggan (mwd@cert.org) From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:41:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12570 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Welsh Duggan Cc: 12570@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 12570-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12570.13493819928909 (code B ref 12570); Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 12570) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2012 20:19:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54715 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJrtf-0002Jd-5X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:19:51 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51926 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJrtd-0002JV-Bh for 12570@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:19:49 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJrtV-0001l9-M1; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:19:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:19:41 -0400 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Michael Welsh Duggan on Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:45:19 -0400) References: X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) I agree with you. I think consistency with other programs that read passwords is more important than consistency with the minibuffer. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:41:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd Resent-From: "Andrew W. 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Nosenko" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > I agree with you. I think consistency with other programs that read > passwords is more important than consistency with the minibuffer. > Excuse me, but proposed "consistence" is not a consistence with other password-reading programs but a consistence with teminals or teminal emulators. For example, for me the most used password entries are GDM (login), gnome-screensaver (session lock) and pinentry for GnuPG and SSH. All of them use GTK+, and "reset previous typed passwd" is Shift-Home followed by Del or Backspace. Should I propose Emacs to behave the same?.. Rhetorical question. -- Andrew W. Nosenko From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:41:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12570 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Welsh Duggan Cc: "12570@debbugs.gnu.org" <12570@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 12570-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12570.134938811220992 (code B ref 12570); Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 12570) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2012 22:01:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54742 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJtUN-0005SW-OU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:01:52 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:59839) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJtUL-0005SJ-Vp for 12570@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:01:50 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09FxLQG/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCwsuAQEEEhQYDSSIHAW6CY0iAQWDHAOjM4FYgwWBPA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="200682772" Received: from 69-196-180-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.180.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Oct 2012 18:01:36 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F311459478; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 18:01:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:01:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:45:19 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > If you truly think that this is TRT, so be it. I will adjust > (eventually). But it does sit uneasily in my mind. I can type C-u to > cancel typing in passwords for login shells, ssh-add, and just about any > other program that accepts a password. It feels odd to switch my > password typing habits just in Emacs. When I fumble-finger a password, We can add a C-u binding as well. I don't have time right now, tho, so if someone else wants to do it... Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:41:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12570 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Andrew W. Nosenko" Cc: 12570@debbugs.gnu.org, mwd@cert.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 12570-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12570.13494009526937 (code B ref 12570); Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 12570) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2012 01:35:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54860 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJwpT-0001nq-Or for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:35:52 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56449 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJwpR-0001ni-8Y for 12570@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:35:50 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJwpA-0002q6-1C; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:35:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:35:32 -0400 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com) References: X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Excuse me, but proposed "consistence" is not a consistence with other password-reading programs but a consistence with teminals or teminal emulators. I normally use terminals. Perhaps read-passwd should implement C-u on terminals and Shift-HOME DEL on a window system? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:41:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd Resent-From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 08:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12570 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 12570@debbugs.gnu.org, mwd@cert.org Received: via spool by 12570-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12570.134942752516363 (code B ref 12570); Fri, 05 Oct 2012 08:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 12570) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2012 08:58:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55190 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TK3k4-0004Fr-T8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:58:45 -0400 Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.212.44]:38308) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TK3k2-0004Fd-UW for 12570@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:58:43 -0400 Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fc26so1907612vbb.3 for <12570@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:58:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3j2Ji+zOXLL1bb1OgHjsXJAMO9mPg24p+qiTRW7Z5ic=; b=F5jLTGoJ9Zb7yVnlAJCMJYA9WRL+mgh00Zrx6nIbhoSkZeUlN2DZ+u/Hy4z8ZAs/AC FhXW38VuByWm2R6aBl/g10A8m+tiZGgKyBhVbG5rvKsAHc8cyOjiEnfqjRVcD159tIsJ qhl8tPp4TdvremXrVi47Y2kVxS5BrQ8rChRAi6QydGBKrX3Ee8UG2ZfACX9+xI/C7/+z S0MeXUAdB8JIWej6BC6VfPNmCZ0iwkBN+RubyW2Web2DNkWGahDNbyIKdE6ehWn1X+UE Sm7AgO3lKIFdsKJSvy9sQkfXh8IZ8PFBwXllLbnad9XvyTDYgWqJfOMxjTpFtMl8tgnA OWCg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.67.129 with SMTP id n1mr3960948vdt.28.1349427507634; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.1.103 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 01:58:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:58:27 +0300 Message-ID: From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > Excuse me, but proposed "consistence" is not a consistence with other > password-reading programs but a consistence with teminals or teminal > emulators. > > I normally use terminals. Then, for consistency with terminals, you need not C-u, but what the "kill" control-character is set to (see KILL control character in termios(4) and "kill" control character in stty(1)). Yes, it set to ^U (C-u in Emacs notation) by default, but may be redefined by user at the any time using stty(1), for example. > > Perhaps read-passwd should implement C-u on terminals > and Shift-HOME DEL on a window system? Oh, no, please! I hate CUA and prefer Emacs way! -- Andrew W. Nosenko From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:41:00 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Michael Welsh Duggan Subject: bug#12570: closed (Re: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd) Message-ID: References: <2ay5jkco3e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 12570 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 12570@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:49:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1349491742-20997-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1349491742-20997-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 12570@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 12570: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D12570 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1349491742-20997-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 12570-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2012 02:48:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57450 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TKKRi-0005SM-OP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:48:54 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52059 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TKKRg-0005SF-Ke for 12570-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:48:53 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKKRR-0000ag-WD; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:48:38 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 12570-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12570: 24.2.50; C-u does not work in read-passwd References: X-Spook: Etacs industrial espionage Exon Shell Panama Cocaine X-Ran: :\vf9WMXQ3pX3@|a3,L`.DOzr5Mo}z-3zI2.BzPs&)w5+qlVD0*to?gc=Ae,e($;]}h5dx X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:48:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 04 Oct 2012 18:01:35 -0400") Message-ID: <2ay5jkco3e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12570-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Stefan Monnier wrote: > We can add a C-u binding as well. I don't have time right now, tho, so > if someone else wants to do it... 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In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.4) of 2012-09-25 on waterbuck.yellow.cert.org Bzr revision: 110196 eliz@gnu.org-20120925124413-us1fkny5urer83c3 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70101000 System Description: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.8 (Tikanga) -- Michael Welsh Duggan (mwd@cert.org) ------------=_1349491742-20997-1--