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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgement at that address. Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': In GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, Section 12.13, entitled "Determining whether a Function is Safe to Call", in the first paragraph and first sentence one can read: Some major modes such as SES call functions that are stored in user files. I took several seconds to realize the real sentence's meaning. It could be due to my poor english skills, because I'm not, actually, a native english speaker; or my trend to read very fast when there isn't punctuation; or even the several reading hours which I submitted myself. Though it's clear to me the sentence has only one possible meaning by the context, I think if the expression "such as SES" _was_ surro= unded by commas the sentence would be fairly simple to understand and that change won't cause any harm. For instance: Some major modes, such as SES, call functions that are stored in user files. Thanks in advance. If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file /share/emacs/24.1/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-08-26 on felix-laptop Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10903000 Configured using: `configure 'CFLAGS=3D-pipe -O3 -march=3Datom -mtune=3Datom -mmmx -msse -ms= se2 -msse3 -mssse3 -mfpmath=3Dsse'' --=20 ,=3D ,-_-. =3D. Bruno F=C3=A9lix Rezende Ribeiro (oitofelix) ((_/)o o(\_)) Uns o chamam de super-vaca... `-'(. .)`-' Outros de hiper-touro... \_/ Eu o chamo simplesmente: meta-gnu! From unknown Sun Sep 07 01:28:04 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: oitofelix@gmail.com (Bruno =?UTF-8?Q?F=C3=A9lix?= Rezende Ribeiro) Subject: bug#12562: closed (Re: bug#12562: 24.1; GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual; Couple comma's lack, might cause fuss; Section 12.13, "Determining whether a Function is Safe to Call"; First paragraph; First Sentence.) Message-ID: References: <87pq50aclz.fsf@gmail.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 12562 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 12562@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 07:27:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1349249221-30052-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1349249221-30052-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #12562: 24.1; GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual; Couple comma's lack, might c= ause fuss; Section 12.13, "Determining whether a Function is Safe to Call";= First paragraph; First Sentence. which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 12562@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 12562: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D12562 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1349249221-30052-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 12562-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 07:26:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38478 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJJLv-0007oD-P5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:26:44 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:57980) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJJLt-0007o6-HN for 12562-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:26:42 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJJLI-0005nb-EB; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:26:04 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 12562-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12562: 24.1; GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual; Couple comma's lack, might cause fuss; Section 12.13, "Determining whether a Function is Safe to Call"; First paragraph; First Sentence. References: <87pq50aclz.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: global AK-47 espionage mania S Box class struggle oil X-Ran: gf,UG;g|sbeXObS/(PHc1ZmN]T/~]{7L~R$97-LgkNJX19_fa(Px5k`kpFgCSAAqAh ("Bruno =?utf-8?Q?F=C3=A9lix?= Rezende Ribeiro"'s message of "Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:38:16 -0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12562-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Version: 24.3 OK, changed as you suggest in emacs-24 branch. PS, have you considered sending diffs with your proposed changes? 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgement at that address. Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': In GNU Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, Section 12.13, entitled "Determining whether a Function is Safe to Call", in the first paragraph and first sentence one can read: Some major modes such as SES call functions that are stored in user files. I took several seconds to realize the real sentence's meaning. It could be due to my poor english skills, because I'm not, actually, a native english speaker; or my trend to read very fast when there isn't punctuation; or even the several reading hours which I submitted myself. Though it's clear to me the sentence has only one possible meaning by the context, I think if the expression "such as SES" _was_ surro= unded by commas the sentence would be fairly simple to understand and that change won't cause any harm. For instance: Some major modes, such as SES, call functions that are stored in user files. Thanks in advance. If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file /share/emacs/24.1/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-08-26 on felix-laptop Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10903000 Configured using: `configure 'CFLAGS=3D-pipe -O3 -march=3Datom -mtune=3Datom -mmmx -msse -ms= se2 -msse3 -mssse3 -mfpmath=3Dsse'' --=20 ,=3D ,-_-. =3D. Bruno F=C3=A9lix Rezende Ribeiro (oitofelix) ((_/)o o(\_)) Uns o chamam de super-vaca... `-'(. .)`-' Outros de hiper-touro... \_/ Eu o chamo simplesmente: meta-gnu! ------------=_1349249221-30052-1--