From unknown Sat Jun 21 17:35:06 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#12548 <12548@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#12548 <12548@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle Reply-To: bug#12548 <12548@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 00:35:06 +0000 retitle 12548 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle reassign 12548 emacs submitter 12548 Eli Zaretskii severity 12548 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 01 08:54:15 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 12:54:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35881 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIfVm-0006pM-LS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:54:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42232) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIfVk-0006pF-JD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:54:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIfVE-00089Y-Cn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:53:46 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:60657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIfVE-00089U-9S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:53:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60371) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIfVA-00047Z-3p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:53:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIfV8-00088X-PB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:53:36 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:44103) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIfV8-000879-GJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:53:34 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MB700500T2Q1200@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:53:32 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MB7004XXT58VX50@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:53:32 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:53:39 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-id: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgment at that address. Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': The recipe is: configure make bootstrap Since about 2 weeks ago, I see these warning messages while bootstrapping on MS-Windows, when Lisp files are being byte-compiled. Two typical examples: Warning: Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle: =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA =3D> (load "erc-backend.el") =3D> (macroexpand= -all (defun erc-server-connect =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA)) =3D> (macroexpand= (erc-log =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA)) =3D> (load "erc.el") =3D> (load "erc-b= ackend.el") Wrote d:/gnu/bzr/emacs/test2/lisp/erc/erc-autoaway.elc Warning: Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle: =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA =3D> (load "tramp.el") =3D> (macroexpand-all (= defun tramp-action-login =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA)) =3D> (macroexpand (with= -connection-property =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA)) =3D> (load "tramp-cache.el"= ) =3D> (load "tramp.el") Wrote d:/gnu/bzr/emacs/test2/lisp/eshell/esh-module.elc (I don't know what is that binary garbage, maybe some byte code.) AFAICS, all of these messages are related either to loading tramp.el or erc-backend.el. But I may have missed others, not sure. Please remember that byte compilation during bootstrap on Windows is done with an Emacs binary dumped with .el version of the byte compile= r and its subroutines. I never saw anything similar in "regular" byte compilation after updating from the master repository, FWIW. If I can give more information about this, please ask. If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file d:/gnu/bzr/emacs/trunk/etc/DEBUG. 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Hmm.. you should have seen them since when I introduced the eager-macroexpansion, which is a bit more than 2 weeks. > Warning: Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle: > =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA =3D> (load "erc-backend.el") =3D> (macroexpand-all= (defun erc-server-connect =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA)) =3D> (macroexpand (erc-log = =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA)) =3D> (load "erc.el") =3D> (load "erc-backend.el") [ Not sure what this =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA is about, but I'll assume it's some= incorrect encoding of =E2=80=A6 ] > AFAICS, all of these messages are related either to loading tramp.el > or erc-backend.el. But I may have missed others, not sure. Yes, IIRC there are two such problematic cycles, one with Tramp and another with ERC (there were a couple more, but I fixed them). I'm not completely sure how best to fix them, so I preferred to leave them in and wait for the ERC and Tramp maintainers to fix them later. They're harmless in the sense that the resulting .elc files should be correct (and probably even identical). I think the warning prints a clear and concise description of the cycle, so it should not be too hard for the maintainers of those packages to understand the problem and decide how best to fix it. > and its subroutines. I never saw anything similar in "regular" byte > compilation after updating from the master repository, FWIW. A bootstrap under GNU/Linux shows those same warnings. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 01 11:31:22 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 15:31:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36513 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIhxq-00021n-7s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:31:22 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:65235) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIhxn-00021f-PJ for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:31:20 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MB8008000E9PF00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:30:51 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MB80088Y0FEPM00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:30:51 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:30:57 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle In-reply-to: To: Stefan Monnier Message-id: <83k3vab45q.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:13:04 -0400 > > > Since about 2 weeks ago, I see these warning messages while > > bootstrapping on MS-Windows, when Lisp files are being byte-compiled. > > Hmm.. you should have seen them since when I introduced the > eager-macroexpansion, which is a bit more than 2 weeks. [...] Content analysis details: (1.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.175 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:13:04 -0400 >=20 > > Since about 2 weeks ago, I see these warning messages while > > bootstrapping on MS-Windows, when Lisp files are being byte-compi= led. >=20 > Hmm.. you should have seen them since when I introduced the > eager-macroexpansion, which is a bit more than 2 weeks. What can I say? I don't bootstrap too often ;-) > > Warning: Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle: > > =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA =3D> (load "erc-backend.el") =3D> (macroex= pand-all (defun erc-server-connect =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA)) =3D> (macroex= pand (erc-log =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA)) =3D> (load "erc.el") =3D> (load "e= rc-backend.el") >=20 > [ Not sure what this =CE=93=D7=90=C2=AA is about, but I'll assume i= t's some incorrect > encoding of =E2=80=A6 ] Most probably. The Windows console is notorious for screwing up non-ASCII characters, since the encoding used by GUI applications and by console programs is different. > > AFAICS, all of these messages are related either to loading tramp= .el > > or erc-backend.el. But I may have missed others, not sure. >=20 > Yes, IIRC there are two such problematic cycles, one with Tramp and > another with ERC (there were a couple more, but I fixed them). > I'm not completely sure how best to fix them, so I preferred to lea= ve > them in and wait for the ERC and Tramp maintainers to fix them late= r. > They're harmless in the sense that the resulting .elc files should = be > correct (and probably even identical). >=20 > I think the warning prints a clear and concise description of the c= ycle, > so it should not be too hard for the maintainers of those packages = to > understand the problem and decide how best to fix it. >=20 > > and its subroutines. I never saw anything similar in "regular" b= yte > > compilation after updating from the master repository, FWIW. >=20 > A bootstrap under GNU/Linux shows those same warnings. Thanks for the info. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 01 11:32:14 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 15:32:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIhyg-00023M-KQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:32:14 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:44407) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIhye-00023E-Nr for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:32:13 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q91FVfYo012041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:31:44 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q91FVefu027232 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:31:41 GMT Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q91FVeD8006678; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:31:40 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.219.190) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:31:40 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Stefan Monnier'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:31:26 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2f51z9tnArb2V/Shqb4ZSjgxwkoAAAgWdg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Perhaps this should be merged with bug #12473? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 01 12:43:28 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 16:43:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36594 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIj5c-0004Xp-60 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:43:28 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:20111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIj5a-0004Xh-6e for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:43:26 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09FxLT4/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIHAW6CZBEA6MzgViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="200393782" Received: from 69-196-180-248.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([69.196.180.248]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 01 Oct 2012 12:42:57 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9C2A7AE1FB; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:42:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle Message-ID: References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:42:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:31:26 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 'Eli Zaretskii' , 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > Perhaps this should be merged with bug #12473? No, 12473 is an actual bug (that is fixed in the trunk AFAIK). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 01 13:01:46 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 17:01:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36622 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIjNJ-0005pg-2k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:01:45 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:38535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIjNF-0005pT-Rq; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:01:43 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q91H1BFs012873 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:01:12 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q91H1Aaa005400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:01:10 GMT Received: from abhmt105.oracle.com (abhmt105.oracle.com [141.146.116.57]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q91H192n004820; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:01:09 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.219.190) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 10:01:09 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Stefan Monnier'" References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 10:00:55 -0700 Message-ID: <6653844C8A7A4FC396A0A481E729DD31@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2f89HWrWeChjP1ROWH/lmEx4fJUAAAlaxA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 'Eli Zaretskii' , 12473@debbugs.gnu.org, 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > > Perhaps this should be merged with bug #12473? > > No, 12473 is an actual bug (that is fixed in the trunk AFAIK). Really? I received no notification that it has been fixed. In fact, I've received no reply at all after my posting that bug. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 02 02:48:10 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2012 06:48:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIwH3-0001lC-4i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 02:48:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48208) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIwH0-0001l5-Nx for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 02:48:07 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIwGU-0002tt-GL; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 02:47:34 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Putin Gazprom weapons of mass destruction Mole CESID X-Ran: 0^#i?!R5"ovkhG.\@Jwd)#O^yI\fHRBqJ%OZN5tOBa.DW+&[8rJ@+vHn?hy"#K)Xg)x,}$ X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 02:47:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:53:39 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) This is explained in NEWS, so can this be closed? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 02 12:46:38 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2012 16:46:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37969 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ5cE-0002nM-D4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:46:38 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:53801) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ5cB-0002n6-A5 for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:46:36 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MB900900YFG3600@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:45:41 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MB90089YYK5N5B0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:45:41 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:45:51 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 02 12:53:41 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2012 16:53:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37975 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ5j3-0002wr-4V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:53:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:43826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ5j0-0002wj-SP for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:53:40 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ5iR-0006P6-Ia; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:53:03 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: AUTODIN spy Attorney General Bin Laden rail gun Blowfish X-Ran: cf31"seLHtmeTbo'7r}~1(pZ.@o+;u#^jcViV]E`fM'{EMo`^D){~'pwh0}3~klIp`{X7A X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:53:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:45:51 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> This is explained in NEWS, so can this be closed? > > I think the relevant maintainers (erc and Tramp) should be made aware > of this, and hopefully fix the problem reported here. It's just that there are many warnings compiling Emacs, this one is harmless, and we don't normally open reports for them all. (Also, no offence meant to anyone, but I'm not sure if anyone is maintaining erc, and I don't think they would find this report anyway.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 02 14:08:08 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Oct 2012 18:08:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38015 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ6t5-0004dO-Qs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:08:08 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ6t3-0004dH-Ix for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:08:06 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJ6sV-0002S5-AO; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:07:31 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: 9705 Samford Road SCUD missile fundamentalist rail gun X-Ran: EFx.VGB,CHLJC9b8!#WHFJ,]rLO#91E$'?6kVDk1(~TJ>i$*rg0ciH*66i8Xn;0{l,8bwW X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:07:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:53:02 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) PS also this for several files: Compiling emacs-lisp/ert-x.el Warning: Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle: => (load "gv.el") => (macroexpand-all (defun gv--defun-declaration )) => (macroexpand (pcase )) => (load "pcase.el") => (macroexpand-all (defmacro pcase-let )) => (macroexpand (dolist )) => (load "gv.el") PPS does using the ellipsis character add anything? As you can see I lost it during copy-paste from a graphical Emacs to a -nw one; and it was somehow corrupted in the initial report. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 02 21:42:35 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 01:42:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38295 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJDys-0008F0-O7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:42:35 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:42074) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJDyp-0008Eo-S3 for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:42:32 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09FxLQG/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBwFugmQRAOjM4FYgwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="200521638" Received: from 69-196-180-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.180.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 02 Oct 2012 21:41:55 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1181B594D2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 21:41:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle Message-ID: References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:41:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:07:31 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) > Compiling emacs-lisp/ert-x.el > Warning: Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle: > => (load "gv.el") => (macroexpand-all (defun gv--defun-declaration > )) => (macroexpand (pcase )) => (load "pcase.el") => > (macroexpand-all (defmacro pcase-let )) => (macroexpand (dolist )) > => (load "gv.el") I think this is the problem due to "loading cl.el causes pcase's use of dolist to load cl-macs, which loads gv, which loads pcase, ...". The occurrence of this problem depends on when pcase gets byte-compiled (since pcase.elc does not require macroexpansion of dolist). The best fix I can think of is to ban cl.el's dolist, but I have the strange feeling this suggestion is not going to fly. > PPS does using the ellipsis character add anything? As compared to using "..."? It's more concise. As compared to not writing it at all, the advantage is that it preserves the Elisp syntax, making the result more clear. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 02 21:43:00 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 01:43:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38298 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJDzI-0008GB-JR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:43:00 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:51677) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJDzG-0008G3-SV for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:42:59 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09FxLQG/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJC2HbwW6CZBEA6MzgViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="200521655" Received: from 69-196-180-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.180.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 02 Oct 2012 21:42:23 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 19B49594D2; Tue, 2 Oct 2012 21:42:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle Message-ID: References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:42:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:45:51 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: Glenn Morris , 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) >> This is explained in NEWS, so can this be closed? > I think the relevant maintainers (erc and Tramp) should be made aware > of this, and hopefully fix the problem reported here. I hope the byte-compiler warning will do that for us. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 03 03:07:17 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 07:07:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38448 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJJ36-0007Lg-NR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:07:17 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:57641) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJJ34-0007LZ-Nf for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:07:15 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJJ2S-00012A-Ns; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:06:36 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: satellite imagery Aladdin FTS2000 fundamentalist BCCI X-Ran: JJVpSSy0]z|fH7;zGGE.tcSzrR7XCH@Cie$)Vg^;YC(Pi)=r67M2,.]>7)[hRQ>v|mMOyD X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:06:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:41:54 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Stefan Monnier wrote: > The best fix I can think of is to ban cl.el's dolist, but I have the > strange feeling this suggestion is not going to fly. You mean, drop cl.el's alias of dolist to cl-dolist? Irrespective, it would be good to do that to remove the confusion of having two "dolist"s. I guess it depends whether anyone was actually intentionally requiring cl to get the cl version of dolist... For the erc one, looks like just moving erc-log and erc-with-buffer from erc to erc-backend (or a new erc-macs) would solve it. erc requires erc-backend, so this could not cause any problems other than aesthetic ones. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 03 09:05:14 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 13:05:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38937 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJOdV-000806-Q9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:05:13 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:65528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJOdT-0007zz-Td for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:05:12 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09FxLQG/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBwFugmQRAOjM4FYgwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="200547032" Received: from 69-196-180-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.180.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Oct 2012 09:04:33 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E9180594E8; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:04:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle Message-ID: References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:04:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:06:36 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) >> The best fix I can think of is to ban cl.el's dolist, but I have the >> strange feeling this suggestion is not going to fly. > You mean, drop cl.el's alias of dolist to cl-dolist? Yes. > Irrespective, it would be good to do that to remove the confusion of > having two "dolist"s. Yes. > I guess it depends whether anyone was actually intentionally requiring > cl to get the cl version of dolist... There are definitely users of CL's dolist (i.e. uses of dolist where the body uses `return'). > For the erc one, looks like just moving erc-log and erc-with-buffer from > erc to erc-backend (or a new erc-macs) would solve it. erc requires > erc-backend, so this could not cause any problems other than aesthetic > ones. I suggest you send the patch to the ERC maintainers to see what they think of it. It's not like it's an urgent problem to fix. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 03 12:19:24 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 16:19:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51554 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJRfP-0000ah-CD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:19:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45583 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJRfO-0000ab-03 for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:19:22 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJRfN-0005pS-Ab; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:19:21 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: nuclear bemd AUTODIN Exon Shell Serbian IRA pre-emptive X-Ran: `35Rfw;hI2l;ZPMcQKi$.[]t?K$O:qwtM0?i/uirq6%Te'|(>bJ+qFkeXSa{N%~uDz&H'S X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:19:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:04:32 -0400") Message-ID: <0qmx03bkae.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Stefan Monnier wrote: > I suggest you send the patch to the ERC maintainers to see what they > think of it. I don't think there are any. http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/erc has no commits in over 3 years. > It's not like it's an urgent problem to fix. No, so I guess we can close this report after all... From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 03 13:46:31 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2012 17:46:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJT1i-0002d3-WF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:46:31 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:54780) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJT1h-0002cs-Fg for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:46:29 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu09FxLQG/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kAYgbBQu5fpBEA5YqjQmBWIMF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="200575950" Received: from 69-196-180-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.180.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Oct 2012 13:46:23 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2B1E5594E8; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:46:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris , Michael Olson Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle Message-ID: References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> <0qmx03bkae.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:46:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0qmx03bkae.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 03 Oct 2012 12:19:21 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) >> I suggest you send the patch to the ERC maintainers to see what they >> think of it. > I don't think there are any. > http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/erc > has no commits in over 3 years. Hmm... I guess we should ask Michael Olson if he still considers himself maintainer, and if not, just install whichever patch we think is cleanest (and update the `erc' package on Savannah to redirect the curious to the Emacs package). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 03 21:39:37 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2012 01:39:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52049 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJaPZ-0005nD-Gg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:39:37 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:41974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TJaPX-0005mq-2L for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:39:36 -0400 Received: by obqv19 with SMTP id v19so8032618obq.3 for <12548@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:39:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=o4r2fGJuSH/bV7elt0GSn4HZxSNeGR/SC7OGr8V6SNk=; b=YDdQJcRXe8yU75BJP57ICp/doOnwvsrMfP9Wozia4lOHUPveFPg3iVRuSRBCZYWUdk CpJ9QDXuih/XBVVJboBuMiswy1wGbDoWSjvH3xlOtdbCoyK1BD+NRmhKwyaGrPyQ39Ze CIQ+5olLICed1IHwTw6hcHgW0QeByYOT+iRxDv6obdVlZl923fgxT07/ICJw5V0e0S9i nY0IiLGRbzw1xIiMstBJXmCW3UmM/Nh7EIlmn/omqAAXFx4KuT6HZhlFt9YqvzxRobDu Y1pP0Xzve+uXmCoT1hN7i45zLLdYAxInz21uu573hP4OguMaCODhSlERlfhcQX7TFlxR +bEw== Received: by 10.182.119.72 with SMTP id ks8mr3074126obb.10.1349314766987; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:39:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.24.42 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:39:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [99.116.250.80] In-Reply-To: References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> <0qmx03bkae.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> From: Michael Olson Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:39:05 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nvi8x-sb5L6ZKgS4YmHsDSaH_pU Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle To: Stefan Monnier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04451a0160637704cb31d33d X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnQD47GX+zIRkIXKjTC1oAFD3gIbSHWXlwAVJnLnzf0zgTxh/YGkaFXcQaR/aTYfq6ENG1U X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: Glenn Morris , 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) --f46d04451a0160637704cb31d33d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've been eyeballing patches that get sent to emacs-devel and Cc:'d to me and signing off on them, but not doing much more than that. We had a maintainer volunteer a couple years ago, but haven't heard from him since. I think it would be reasonable to modify sv.gnu.org/p/erc to point to the Emacs package. The only other users of that package would be users of Emacs 21 or XEmacs. Emacs 21 doesn't matter much anymore, and XEmacs already has ERC in their source tree I believe, with their own patches. On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> I suggest you send the patch to the ERC maintainers to see what they > >> think of it. > > I don't think there are any. > > http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/erc > > has no commits in over 3 years. > > Hmm... I guess we should ask Michael Olson if he still considers himself > maintainer, and if not, just install whichever patch we think is > cleanest (and update the `erc' package on Savannah to redirect the > curious to the Emacs package). > > > Stefan > -- Michael Olson | http://mwolson.org/ --f46d04451a0160637704cb31d33d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been eyeballing patches that get sent to emacs-devel and Cc:'d= to me and signing off on them, but not doing much more than that. =C2=A0We= had a maintainer volunteer a couple years ago, but haven't heard from = him since.

I think it would be reasonable to modify sv.gnu.org/p/erc to point to the Emacs package. =C2=A0The only ot= her users of that package would be users of Emacs 21 or XEmacs. =C2=A0Emacs= 21 doesn't matter much anymore, and XEmacs already has ERC in their so= urce tree I believe, with their own patches.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Stefan Monn= ier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> I suggest you send the patch to the ERC maintainers to see what th= ey
>> think of it.
> I don't think there are any.
> htt= p://savannah.gnu.org/projects/erc
> has no commits in over 3 years.

Hmm... I guess we should ask Michael Olson if he still considers himself maintainer, and if not, just install whichever patch we think is
cleanest (and update the `erc' package on Savannah to redirect the
curious to the Emacs package).


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Stefan



-- Michael Olson=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 http://mwolson.org/
--f46d04451a0160637704cb31d33d-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 05 16:21:28 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2012 20:21:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56941 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TKEOl-0004vz-EP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:21:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47229 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TKEOj-0004vs-0w for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:21:25 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TKEOV-00029N-MR; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:21:11 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Michael Olson Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> <0qmx03bkae.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: FBI MILSATCOM beanpole electronic surveillance Elvis X-Ran: L1{Xlr{1)o^!C(sh,tIY8s_M3:~PT+phl%.M*YGSDL(eS%cBKf%}Vw^W9F!{{xm1br.tIa X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:21:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Michael Olson's message of "Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:39:05 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: Stefan Monnier , 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Michael Olson wrote: > I think it would be reasonable to modify sv.gnu.org/p/erc to point to the > Emacs package. If you log in to your Savannah account, you should be able to add a notice to the erc front page. An explicit notice to erc-announce would probably be good too. Do you want us to set "Maintainer: FSF" in all lisp/erc/*.el files (except erc-desktop-notifications.el)? None of the listed authors/maintainers have made any changes in ~ 4 years. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 05 18:25:33 2012 Received: (at 12548) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2012 22:25:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57112 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TKGKq-0007pf-LN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 18:25:33 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:43089) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TKGKo-0007pL-5V for 12548@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 18:25:31 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id v19so2151390obq.3 for <12548@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:25:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=2NawVgwPw+Lp6PS1rinuwUBkBeVgFaokmudMqenlGhk=; b=mIJjbzKhXFUu6zxJe8zsO4APuJtpaRgtSKGUeAJ6eoR25vi2vzWiC/sDdmj+oiQFwi A+vmyvaKefL2wBRVKu8Pwd8WLASTxW4Dny/nxnvTegmkdaWrI7KIWCCJ+PlIDijUzzfp RK0/5AuMQ5ktSVA4QfBczVZW/3iicra6JplWedSJ5RjNnlGiIhrNTGOgi05e6kaHOHrs Mq77tgalhHcPWJVvIXVweeLM6a9g7ovVph6uX9GQvs0C3w/vpnWG+GfyN/6AGRUQC3RS SRxVvwYsZe9NSYF7GlWhF7TcG3n29G7+6fvVqV2tVC9iRt+QAIYxBQoNsyLX8ugHM/0X Q+aQ== Received: by 10.60.172.233 with SMTP id bf9mr8021523oec.99.1349475911295; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:25:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.24.42 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:24:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [216.103.134.250] In-Reply-To: References: <83391ycq0c.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk44aklc.fsf@gnu.org> <0qmx03bkae.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> From: Michael Olson Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:24:50 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: U18csI9IyO67IarXB-bJCWzUmZ8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12548: 24.2.50; Eager macro-expansion skipped due to cycle To: Glenn Morris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQleKyBYSGxzZPOsBOEu5tLoC37ilpQ/fhkCERj4Rv4yhpHdAZUhbs7etesNWrHcJtOVU/0I X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12548 Cc: Stefan Monnier , 12548@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Michael Olson wrote: > >> I think it would be reasonable to modify sv.gnu.org/p/erc to point to the >> Emacs package. > > If you log in to your Savannah account, you should be able to add a > notice to the erc front page. An explicit notice to erc-announce would > probably be good too. Done. > Do you want us to set "Maintainer: FSF" in all lisp/erc/*.el files > (except erc-desktop-notifications.el)? None of the listed > authors/maintainers have made any changes in ~ 4 years. Sounds good. -- Michael Olson | http://mwolson.org/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 07 18:37:56 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2012 23:37:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54959 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TWFC0-0007ix-0r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:37:56 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:46658) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TWFBx-0007ik-4N for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:37:53 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWFBx-0000NE-Li for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:37:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:37:53 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 12548 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) close 12548 From unknown Sat Jun 21 17:35:06 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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