From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 28 19:28:20 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2012 23:28:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32822 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THjyi-0006DI-Mj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:28:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40727) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THjbL-0005gv-Hw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:04:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THjb7-0001yO-Ib for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:03:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:57256) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THjb7-0001yK-FF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:03:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THjb5-0006ob-C8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:03:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THjb2-0001x5-Tn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:03:51 -0400 Received: from 12.mo5.mail-out.ovh.net ([46.105.39.65]:60085 helo=mo5.mail-out.ovh.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THjb2-0001wF-CV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:03:48 -0400 Received: from mail629.ha.ovh.net (b9.ovh.net [213.186.33.59]) by mo5.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F958FFA25A for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:09:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2012 01:03:49 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO neutrico.neutrico.pl) (marcin.antczak@neutrico.pl@80.87.37.238) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2012 01:03:48 +0200 From: Marcin Antczak To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Ovh-Mailout: 178.32.228.5 (mo5.mail-out.ovh.net) Subject: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:02:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 3230206833919813388 X-Ovh-Remote: 80.87.37.238 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleeiucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecuhfhrohhmpeforghrtghinhcutehnthgtiigrkhcuoehmrghrtghinhdrrghnthgtiigrkhesnhgvuhhtrhhitghordhplheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehpnhhgrdhinhenucfjughrpefhvffufffkgggtsehttdertddttddt X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleeiucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecuhfhrohhmpeforghrtghinhcutehnthgtiigrkhcuoehmrghrtghinhdrrghnthgtiigrkhesnhgvuhhtrhhitghordhplheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehpnhhgrdhinhenucfjughrpefhvffufffkgggtsehttdertddttddt X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:28:16 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Could you please remove outdated emacs22 icons from repository? These icons conflicts with icons distributed in older release packages and requires additional maintenance from packagers. These files are: etc/images/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/emacs22.png etc/images/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/emacs22.png etc/images/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/emacs22.png etc/images/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/emacs22.png Please remove them from upstream or disable in Makefile. (Makefile installs them in usr/share/icons) It also could be nice to rename them to 'emacs24.png'. 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newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 28 19:48:26 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2012 23:48:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32829 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THkID-0006fz-Km for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:48:26 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:41351) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THkIB-0006fs-IT for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:48:24 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3XT8hp5JQxz4KK6M; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:48:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 2zMG45suuSrW3nyz2JmpuxBn1PHwpg7FfJVm9UdI76Q= Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-135-221.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.135.221]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3XT8hp4qcqzbg19; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:48:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 227E6CA2A3; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:48:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Marcin Antczak Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> X-Yow: Okay, BARBRA STREISAND, I recognize you now!! Also EFREM ZIMBALIST, JUNIOR!! And BEAUMONT NEWHALL!! Everybody into th' BATHROOM! Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:48:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> (Marcin Antczak's message of "Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:02:39 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Marcin Antczak writes: > It also could be nice to rename them to 'emacs24.png'. That would be wrong, since it's the old icon from Emacs 22. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." 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(marcin.antczak@neutrico.pl@80.87.37.238) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2012 02:13:33 +0200 Message-ID: <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:13:21 +0200 From: Marcin Antczak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Schwab X-Ovh-Mailout: 178.32.228.3 (mo3.mail-out.ovh.net) Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050000040208010707080503" X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 4408179610708961074 X-Ovh-Remote: 80.87.37.238 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleeiucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhgtihhnucetnhhttgiirghkuceomhgrrhgtihhnrdgrnhhttgiirghksehnvghuthhrihgtohdrphhlqeenucfjughrpefkfffhfgggvffufhgjtgesmhdtrggrtdefje X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleeiucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhgtihhnucetnhhttgiirghkuceomhgrrhgtihhnrdgrnhhttgiirghksehnvghuthhrihgtohdrphhlqeenucfjughrpefkfffhfgggvffufhgjtgesmhdtrggrtdefje X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050000040208010707080503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit W dniu 29.09.2012 01:48, Andreas Schwab pisze: > Marcin Antczak writes: > >> It also could be nice to rename them to 'emacs24.png'. > That would be wrong, since it's the old icon from Emacs 22. > Oh! You are right. I meant not to rename from emacs22.png to emacs24.png. Sorry. I meant to remove emacs22.png files. And then rename remaining emacs.png icons to emacs24.png. But this would also require to change icon name in emacs.desktop file. In Debian packages, these (emacs.png) icons are renamed with debian/rules and then debian uses it's alternatives system to set emacs24 icons as current Emacs icons (if emacs24 is the most recent installed). --------------050000040208010707080503 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="marcin_antczak.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="marcin_antczak.vcf" YmVnaW46dmNhcmQNCmZuOk1hcmNpbiBBbnRjemFrDQpuOkFudGN6YWs7TWFyY2luDQpvcmc6 bmV1dHJpY28ucGwNCmFkcjo7Ozs7OztQb2xza2ENCmVtYWlsO2ludGVybmV0Om1hcmNpbi5h bnRjemFrQG5ldXRyaWNvLnBsDQp0ZWw7d29yazorNDg1MTMwNDU3NzkNCnVybDpodHRwOi8v d3d3Lm5ldXRyaWNvLnBsDQp2ZXJzaW9uOjIuMQ0KZW5kOnZjYXJkDQoNCg== --------------050000040208010707080503-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 28 20:47:14 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2012 00:47:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32936 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlD8-00084T-Gs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:47:14 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48263) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlD6-00084M-Qx for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:47:13 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlCt-0004K7-QK; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:46:59 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Marcin Antczak Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> X-Spook: anarchy Bush Wired national information infrastructure X-Ran: O{(Ph=jwAq\6u?@K\ss!2&O`@sen[(pky3&JR4OqHkpjhJD)v-P4)%=G]rm{O2\3VPu+,V X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:46:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> (Marcin Antczak's message of "Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:13:21 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.7 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.7 (-------) Marcin Antczak wrote: > And then rename remaining emacs.png icons to emacs24.png. > > But this would also require to change icon name in emacs.desktop file. > > In Debian packages, these (emacs.png) icons are renamed with debian/rules > and then debian uses it's alternatives system to set emacs24 > icons as current Emacs icons (if emacs24 is the most recent installed). It would not be appropriate for Emacs to rename the icons to "emacs24", because Emacs does not install itself under the name "emacs24". That is a Debian thing. I don't think eg Fedora does that (?), they just provide "emacs" packages. Also, in the same way, when Emacs was Emacs 22, the icons were called just "emacs", not "emacs22", so there is no name clash in terms of files distributed by Emacs. I suppose the emacs22 icons could be renamed to emacs_old. They were provided for people who preferred the older icon style, buy I wonder if anyone has ever actually used them, so maybe they should just go... Maybe to do this properly the icons and desktop file should obey configure's --program-transform-name option? The rest is just idle speculation: I wonder if there is much value in providing emacs23 and emacs24 packages. Emacs 23 is not supported upstream any more. If you don't want a newer version you can just not upgrade it. How many other Debian packages are provided in "versioned" form? Eg I can't install iceweasel-10 and iceweasel-15, just iceweasel. How did Emacs end up in this state? We do try quite hard to ensure new releases are stable... From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 28 20:55:52 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2012 00:55:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLU-0008Hc-1i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:55:52 -0400 Received: from 13.mo3.mail-out.ovh.net ([188.165.33.202]:39955 helo=mo3.mail-out.ovh.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlLR-0008HU-Gl for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:55:51 -0400 Received: from mail417.ha.ovh.net (b6.ovh.net [213.186.33.56]) by mo3.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 244B1FFB80C for <12536@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:04:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2012 02:55:34 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.99?) (marcin.antczak@neutrico.pl@80.87.37.238) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2012 02:55:33 +0200 Message-ID: <506646F9.3090404@neutrico.pl> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:55:21 +0200 From: Marcin Antczak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris X-Ovh-Mailout: 178.32.228.3 (mo3.mail-out.ovh.net) Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020101060300050900020906" X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 5117496552173102951 X-Ovh-Remote: 80.87.37.238 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleeiucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhgtihhnucetnhhttgiirghkuceomhgrrhgtihhnrdgrnhhttgiirghksehnvghuthhrihgtohdrphhlqeenucfjughrpefkfffhfgggvffufhgjtgesmhdtrggrtdefud X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleeiucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhgtihhnucetnhhttgiirghkuceomhgrrhgtihhnrdgrnhhttgiirghksehnvghuthhrihgtohdrphhlqeenucfjughrpefkfffhfgggvffufhgjtgesmhdtrggrtdefud X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020101060300050900020906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit W dniu 29.09.2012 02:46, Glenn Morris pisze: > Marcin Antczak wrote: > >> And then rename remaining emacs.png icons to emacs24.png. >> >> But this would also require to change icon name in emacs.desktop file. >> >> In Debian packages, these (emacs.png) icons are renamed with debian/rules >> and then debian uses it's alternatives system to set emacs24 >> icons as current Emacs icons (if emacs24 is the most recent installed). > It would not be appropriate for Emacs to rename the icons to "emacs24", > because Emacs does not install itself under the name "emacs24". That is > a Debian thing. I don't think eg Fedora does that (?), they just provide > "emacs" packages. > > Also, in the same way, when Emacs was Emacs 22, the icons were called > just "emacs", not "emacs22", so there is no name clash in terms of files > distributed by Emacs. I suppose the emacs22 icons could be renamed to > emacs_old. They were provided for people who preferred the older icon > style, buy I wonder if anyone has ever actually used them, so maybe they > should just go... > > > Maybe to do this properly the icons and desktop file should obey > configure's --program-transform-name option? > > > The rest is just idle speculation: > > I wonder if there is much value in providing emacs23 and emacs24 packages. > Emacs 23 is not supported upstream any more. If you don't want a newer > version you can just not upgrade it. How many other Debian packages are > provided in "versioned" form? Eg I can't install iceweasel-10 and > iceweasel-15, just iceweasel. How did Emacs end up in this state? We do > try quite hard to ensure new releases are stable... 1. I agree 100% that emacs22.png files should go... 2. My proposal about rename from emacs.png to emacs24.png was optional. You are right that it's not Emacs thing to package. So, it's ok for me to keep them as emacs.png 3. Speaking about --program-transform-name - that's also another bug. I'm using this option and --program-suffix to package Emacs 24 for Debian/Ubuntu. I deploy emacs-24.2.x binary as just emacs24 and other binaries as for example: emacsclient.emacs24 And bug is that also man pages should follow these options. Now I need to rename emacs.1 to emacs24.1 and emacsclient.1 to emacsclient.emacs24.1 to make Lintian happy. --------------020101060300050900020906 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="marcin_antczak.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="marcin_antczak.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Marcin Antczak n:Antczak;Marcin org:neutrico.pl adr:;;;;;;Polska email;internet:marcin.antczak@neutrico.pl tel;work:+48513045779 url:http://www.neutrico.pl version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020101060300050900020906-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 28 20:59:20 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2012 00:59:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32955 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlOp-0008Mc-OM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:59:20 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48463) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1THlOn-0008MV-Ne for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:59:18 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THlOa-0005Li-Fg; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:59:04 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Marcin Antczak Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> <506646F9.3090404@neutrico.pl> X-Spook: chameleon man cypherpunk FTS2000 SEAL Team 6 INS Project X-Ran: OITq"X~Bjr!k`0m@ma1FiJ\"re!<[{uh'(~IMS_QIFg,.nEh$b>l~st2\h;i|M1n&7]/D= X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:59:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <506646F9.3090404@neutrico.pl> (Marcin Antczak's message of "Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:55:21 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.7 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.7 (-------) Marcin Antczak wrote: > And bug is that also man pages should follow these options. Now I need > to rename emacs.1 to emacs24.1 and emacsclient.1 to > emacsclient.emacs24.1 to make Lintian happy. And what about the info pages, which are far more important from our point of view? (Right, "non-free", so not your problem. ;) ) I don't see how to solve this kind of thing. We can't rename emacs.info to emacs24.info etc without breaking all the links between manuals. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 30 20:32:14 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 00:32:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35161 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TITvh-00046J-NO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:32:13 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:41032) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TITvf-00046C-9o for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:32:11 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TITvG-0002yi-DC; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:31:46 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Marcin Antczak Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> X-Spook: Mole ANZUS United Nations bemd Albright underground X-Ran: 2x'kp*PoO`>D:O&>ViNP.fyYx)fA?^.\4A}"Li?o^OEGa*#S/xf9bYG:BLZMx->4UY)Oul X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:31:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:46:59 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) Glenn Morris wrote: > I suppose the emacs22 icons could be renamed to emacs_old. Although that doesn't help you either, if Emacs 24 and Emacs 25 both include them. You would have to rename them to emacs24_old and emacs25_old. :) Isn't installing under a separate prefix a better solution to the desire to have multiple Emacs versions installed? Then you just have a command to select which version you want, and add the relevant directories to PATH, MANPATH, INFOPATH. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 30 20:51:17 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 00:51:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35175 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIUE9-0004Yw-Ht for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:51:17 -0400 Received: from mo4.mail-out.ovh.net ([178.32.228.4]:44130) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIUE6-0004Yo-GY for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:51:15 -0400 Received: from mail628.ha.ovh.net (b7.ovh.net [213.186.33.57]) by mo4.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E4DA104E5BD for <12536@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 02:56:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 1 Oct 2012 02:50:50 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.99?) (marcin.antczak@neutrico.pl@80.87.37.238) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 1 Oct 2012 02:50:48 +0200 Message-ID: <5068E8D9.7060705@neutrico.pl> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:50:33 +0200 From: Marcin Antczak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris X-Ovh-Mailout: 178.32.228.4 (mo4.mail-out.ovh.net) Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020600090106060503030902" X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 16782382536655791975 X-Ovh-Remote: 80.87.37.238 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleekucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhgtihhnucetnhhttgiirghkuceomhgrrhgtihhnrdgrnhhttgiirghksehnvghuthhrihgtohdrphhlqeenucffohhmrghinhepphhnghdrrghtnecujfgurhepkfffhfgfggfvufhfjggtsehmtdgrrgdtfedu X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeehtddrleekucetufdoteggodetrfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhgtihhnucetnhhttgiirghkuceomhgrrhgtihhnrdgrnhhttgiirghksehnvghuthhrihgtohdrphhlqeenucffohhmrghinhepphhnghdrrghtnecujfgurhepkfffhfgfggfvufhfjggtsehmtdgrrgdtfedu X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020600090106060503030902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit W dniu 01.10.2012 02:31, Glenn Morris pisze: > Glenn Morris wrote: > >> I suppose the emacs22 icons could be renamed to emacs_old. > Although that doesn't help you either, if Emacs 24 and Emacs 25 both > include them. You would have to rename them to emacs24_old and > emacs25_old. :) > > Isn't installing under a separate prefix a better solution to the desire > to have multiple Emacs versions installed? Then you just have a command > to select which version you want, and add the relevant directories to > PATH, MANPATH, INFOPATH. Thing is that in debian packages you cannot have the same files in different packages. So, if we got emacs22 package - it has to contain icons renamed to emacs22.png For emacs23 - icons renamed to emacs23.png And then debian can use it's alternatives system to choose which one should act as emacs.png (symlinks). True mess begins when upstream source named emacs23 still contains icons like emacs22.png. At this situation maintainer has to fix debian/rules or patch makefiles to avoid conflicts. This is time consuming and unnecessary. There is no reason to keep outdated icons in current release in my opinion. emacs22.png files should end life in emacs22.tar. --------------020600090106060503030902 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="marcin_antczak.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="marcin_antczak.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Marcin Antczak n:Antczak;Marcin org:neutrico.pl adr:;;;;;;Polska email;internet:marcin.antczak@neutrico.pl tel;work:+48513045779 url:http://www.neutrico.pl version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020600090106060503030902-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 30 23:20:24 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 03:20:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35300 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIWYS-0007uh-Bl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:20:24 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.220.44]:56654) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIWYQ-0007ua-HO for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:20:23 -0400 Received: by padfb11 with SMTP id fb11so3910201pad.3 for <12536@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:19:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=NZpjPsqc1LmaXKdesb/rzpRLpxYfjPZdHiDVhXQA5dQ=; b=aiJa4REZd0qpk0oEVdEe5DPQrTixXUd6kqbzzIw7qPUO9Vi2KCm8TKz2rXCZddsTg4 cTEUl55LHAML47MxyBVz/IlbcbkNjhjv/KarTE84I4L0iAtslWu032iZn4hYuzZZ7+uF y06Xho8jd7+hKCxvOSVgl24BfBFQ/DdYaNOpjoLezDy13dnbO1g/MzLbH78LtsugMv4j 5/C6cskbpUa7IBFLkQ7xivPlZb5VCoWuywDjE9/YCJY/X5NLnywFCV6GjySBy/HZad/4 wJy4mRb0i9e6ROECku9Nvxm/by+FR115JrshLHG272WFDsI7ehjkMMVmYA1VJPPkH0Ec awJQ== Received: by 10.66.90.4 with SMTP id bs4mr33748590pab.3.1349061597300; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulysses ([155.69.18.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uz3sm9555728pbc.19.2012.09.30.20.19.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:19:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Marcin Antczak Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> <5068E8D9.7060705@neutrico.pl> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:19:51 +0800 In-Reply-To: <5068E8D9.7060705@neutrico.pl> (Marcin Antczak's message of "Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:50:33 +0200") Message-ID: <874nmedgko.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: Glenn Morris , 12536@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Marcin Antczak writes: > There is no reason to keep outdated icons in current release in my > opinion. I don't see the point of keeping them around, either. I removed them in trunk. The rest of the packaging issues discussed in this thread are Debian specific, and as far as I can tell it's not relevant to this list. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 30 23:20:37 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 03:20:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35303 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIWYf-0007v9-Hq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:20:37 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.220.44]:56654) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIWYd-0007ua-Dd for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:20:35 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fb11so3910201pad.3 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:20:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=ZnvQ1d7pbrXmYmSBuldaD1Wlv75uQUglZ8fr8qowwY8=; b=yhRSTOInIN13fDeFqrgGVPZt/EI12S9mi8p7o1IgAIYQZOYVI9ekPajCPBriMwqgIm zs8H+f4d4NuWMhhDbhA0Xkoc9Ke8GWeY+u19/+Vuhv4XxeJPuulNQ8DTO3e8cc8N+x37 lkJSIqzKxt6xMoXVBnHZoooDliGHe6vj5s8yMXKle05U/khJXILZbq5v9wZ4ZRlX3gaH TbxzncMWXYbhvX2lJx0A433A6AvFrhAkS2L/FmPxqxu9CVa2op1D1p0BkmrhdTiXmNgm KsFG4K9e/vuTz0fnNpjtqPMvvia/vJYiMZ2jvAQxryT4L+RoVkRfYzlAomJHU36ldh5l pOZw== Received: by 10.68.232.71 with SMTP id tm7mr38009108pbc.118.1349061611013; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulysses ([155.69.18.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wl4sm9555141pbc.17.2012.09.30.20.20.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:20:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 12536 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:20:05 +0800 Message-ID: <87k3vax4ii.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) close 12536 thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 01 14:01:37 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 18:01:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36699 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIkJD-00082q-Ia for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:01:37 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:46843) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIkJA-00082j-E9 for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:01:33 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TIkIi-0006NT-6d; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:01:04 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Chong Yidong Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> <5068E8D9.7060705@neutrico.pl> <874nmedgko.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: BROMURE Project Monarch secure FTS2000 AFSPC strategic X-Ran: :o+{S/5kLMXz>QV{g(MyzQAj.Hw(3fEZP!f~%sn4wc~(F{Rw:"tcQ?7=.!l?w}rNo-P^HC X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:01:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874nmedgko.fsf@gnu.org> (Chong Yidong's message of "Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:19:51 +0800") Message-ID: <8gipauysv3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Chong Yidong wrote: > The rest of the packaging issues discussed in this thread are Debian > specific, and as far as I can tell it's not relevant to this list. I think there is a (minor) Emacs issue as to how much configure's --program-transform-name should affect. Currently it only affects the Emacs and lib-src binaries. http://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/gnu/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.69/html_node/Transformation-Rules.html says: Whether to do the transformations on documentation files (Texinfo or man) is a tricky question; there seems to be no perfect answer, due to the several reasons for name transforming. Documentation is not usually particular to a specific architecture, and Texinfo files do not conflict with system documentation. But they might conflict with earlier versions of the same files, and man pages sometimes do conflict with system documentation. As a compromise, it is probably best to do name transformations on man pages but not on Texinfo manuals. which seems sensible to me. I guess it must also affect the installed etc/images/icons/hicolor files, and etc/emacs.desktop, if they are to function. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 07 20:49:36 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Oct 2012 00:49:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60510 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TL1XL-0002hC-EH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:49:36 -0400 Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:41438) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TL1XI-0002h4-6Y for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 20:49:32 -0400 Received: from [87.198.47.115] (87-198-47-115.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.47.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D48FC683FC; Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:49:05 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <507222FF.2040701@harpegolden.net> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:49:03 +0100 From: David De La Harpe Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.7) Gecko/20120922 Icedove/10.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org, Marcin Antczak , Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) On 29/09/12 01:46, Glenn Morris wrote: > They were provided for people who preferred the older icon > style, buy I wonder if anyone has ever actually used them, so maybe they > should just go... Well, I've used the emacs22 icon since the change, but I suppose I am fully capable of keeping my own copy if I want it. Or I could use the new emacs icon if I just changed iceweasel etc. instead, just so long as I don't have to juggle quite so many blue crystal spheres, grumble... From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 15 19:58:56 2012 Received: (at 12536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2012 23:58:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45869 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TNuYg-0006g3-42 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:58:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54095 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TNuYc-0006fv-SC for 12536@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:58:52 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNuXT-0002j3-Vl; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:57:40 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: David De La Harpe Golden Subject: Re: bug#12536: 24.2.50; Outdated emacs22 icons in repo References: <87626xkay8.fsf@neutrico.pl> <50663D21.1010208@neutrico.pl> <507222FF.2040701@harpegolden.net> X-Spook: constitution Capricorn CESID North Korea HAMASMOIS IRA X-Ran: YDLP;ijcfU4|~UVz\OIR}t)p{Jtx{zXa6?3C/zr(3}y|GIn7=cH`@mH"Fdx7ZAjO.X;-um X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:57:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <507222FF.2040701@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:49:03 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12536 Cc: 12536@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) David De La Harpe Golden wrote: > Well, I've used the emacs22 icon since the change, but I suppose I am > fully capable of keeping my own copy if I want it. Or I could use the > new emacs icon if I just changed iceweasel etc. instead, just so long > as I don't have to juggle quite so many blue crystal spheres, > grumble... It's trivial (one-line patch) to put back the emacs22 icons, just not install them. It's only fractionally less trivial (three-line patch) to also allow choice of icon at install time: *** Makefile.in 2012-10-15 21:57:20 +0000 --- Makefile.in 2012-10-15 23:54:13 +0000 *************** *** 631,636 **** --- 631,640 ---- done ## Install those items from etc/ that need to end up elsewhere. + + ## Choose "emacs" or "emacs22" at installation time. + ## Note: emacs22 does not have all the resolutions. + EMACS_ICON=emacs install-etc: umask 022; ${MKDIR_P} $(DESTDIR)${desktopdir} dest=`echo emacs | sed '$(TRANSFORM)'`; \ *************** *** 645,653 **** for dir in */*/apps */*/mimetypes; do \ [ -d $${dir} ] || continue ; \ ( cd $${thisdir}; ${MKDIR_P} $(DESTDIR)${icondir}/$${dir} ) ; \ ! for icon in $${dir}/*.*; do \ [ -r $${icon} ] || continue ; \ ! dest=`echo "$${icon}" | sed -e 's|.*/||' -e '$(TRANSFORM)'` ; \ ( cd $${thisdir}; \ ${INSTALL_DATA} ${iconsrcdir}/$${icon} $(DESTDIR)${icondir}/$${dir}/$${dest} ) \ || exit 1; \ --- 649,657 ---- for dir in */*/apps */*/mimetypes; do \ [ -d $${dir} ] || continue ; \ ( cd $${thisdir}; ${MKDIR_P} $(DESTDIR)${icondir}/$${dir} ) ; \ ! for icon in $${dir}/${EMACS_ICON}[.-]*; do \ [ -r $${icon} ] || continue ; \ ! dest=`echo "$${icon}" | sed -e 's|.*/||' -e 's/$(EMACS_ICON)/emacs/' -e '$(TRANSFORM)'` ; \ ( cd $${thisdir}; \ ${INSTALL_DATA} ${iconsrcdir}/$${icon} $(DESTDIR)${icondir}/$${dir}/$${dest} ) \ || exit 1; \ From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:22:07 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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